Cataloging Trophy Boxers (1 Viewer)

[churchmouse1]

The first attachment in my last post should have been this picture:



I'm sorry for any inconvenience.

Dave

 

[HAWKEYE]

Thanks tommy, i thought i was pretty up on my napoleonics and those threw me. My trophy collection is mainly napoleonics. I have most sets and many duplicates. The few holes in my collection i noticed you have. It was great to see the egyptian series, their beautiful. Thanks for the info. Also thanks dave , that clears things up. My figures must be from the boxer series. I love those us troops firing in blue.

 

[W T Allison II]

Dave: Do you have any of the Boxer sets that contain Indian troops? If you do, could you please post photos? Thanks.

 

[churchmouse1]

Tommy,

I've got two sets labeled BEQ47, Indian Field Artillery Section. In one set the soldiers are clad in blue uniforms with red piping, and in the other set the artillerymen are wearing khaki. I think the blue set is mislabeled and should be for the Indian Army or Egypt & Sudan lines, because the Indian artillery units serving during the Boxer Rebellion were all wearing khaki uniforms, according to what I can find. However, I don't know much about what the infantry were wearing. I'll try to get pictures up in the next day or two.

Dave

 

[churchmouse1]

Hawkeye,

Martyn mentioned that some of the Indian sets were of the 1st Sikhs. While I know it is kinda cheesy to quote Osprey books for reference as a historian, many toy soldier painters refer to the Men-at-Arms series, so here it goes. From pages 36-7 of #95, The Boxer Rebellion, by Lynn Bodin and Chris Warner:

"This sepoy has a yellow fringe of the regimental facing colour to his khaki pagri. The Indian soldier's service dress consisted of a khaki drill kurta with loose trousers and puttees. His equipment is the Indian version of the contemporary British Slade-Wallace pattern made of brown leather . . . A haversack and water-bottle of Indian pattern were also carried. His firearm is the .303in. Lee-Metford magazine rifle with 12 1/4in. bladed bayonet."

Does that sound familiar?

Dave

 

[GICOP]

Tommy,

I've got two sets labeled BEQ47, Indian Field Artillery Section. In one set the soldiers are clad in blue uniforms with red piping, and in the other set the artillerymen are wearing khaki. I think the blue set is mislabeled and should be for the Indian Army or Egypt & Sudan lines, because the Indian artillery units serving during the Boxer Rebellion were all wearing khaki uniforms, according to what I can find. However, I don't know much about what the infantry were wearing. I'll try to get pictures up in the next day or two.

Dave

Hi Dave

I have an Indian Artillery Gun Battery which is labeled set#EQ47 - NWF, the gunners are all wearing blue uniforms. The Indian gunners for the Boxer Rebellion should be in khaki according to the catalogue

Hope this helps

Martyn

 

[churchmouse1]

Thanks, Martyn.

I suspected something along those lines. Of course, it never hurts to have extra Trophy artillery sets.

Dave

 

[W T Allison II]

Dave: Can you describe BS15, 1st Sikh Regt. and BS 16, 7th Rajput Regt.? Also BS21, Indian Infantry advancing? Thanks

 

[churchmouse1]

Tommy,

Check post #15 in this thread by Martyn. He attached a scan of a catalog page with the only description of these sets I know of. It ain't much, but maybe it will help.

Dave

 

[W T Allison II]

Dave: I have that but I was looking for a uniform description. I have BS21. Thanks,

 

[W T Allison II]

Dave: The set in blue uniforms is for the northwest frontier.

 

[W T Allison II]

Hawkeye: The figures in white tunics are 92nd Highlanders(Gordans) in India. The ones in the light blue tunics are the 79th Highlanders(Camerons) in India. These and two other regimental sets were specially commissioned for Dr. Deese of the Tyler Longview, Texas area and came in 24 figure sets, a command set with mounted officer and King's Colour and Regimental Colour with or without bayonets. Since the doctor had a small son, he was worried about the points. Probably more than you wanted to know. Regards,

 

[churchmouse1]

Tommy,

I was deeply entranced staring at your collection with lust in my heart, and I noticed in the third picture on the first page the 1st Sikhs firing. Do you know if that is BS15 or 16?

Hawkeye,

Take a look at this picture. Does that look like one of your sets?


Dave

 

[W T Allison II]

I thought it might be BS 21 but BS15,16 and 21 are all supposed to be advancing. I will check with Mike since he photographed most everything he received from Len to see. Did you know there was a BS 16A? It is a 6 piece set of Havildar advancing with rifle and bayonet. BS 15, 16A and 16 as the 1st Sikh Inf. Regt were also part of the Punjab Frontier Force. I assume there was an Indian Officer and either 5 Havildar or 5 Sepoys in each set either as 1st Sikh or 7th Rajputs.

 

[churchmouse1]

Dave: Do you have any of the Boxer sets that contain Indian troops? If you do, could you please post photos? Thanks.

Tommy,

I'm trying to get my Boxer Indian Artillery Section posted, but I guess my camera is too good to post here (the pictures take up too many KB's), and my Blackberry just gives me a fuzzy mess. I'm sorry, but it might take me a while longer.

Dave

 

[W T Allison II]

Lawrence: In my Boxer photos, you will see two boxers running, carrying a ladder in addition to those climbing wall ladders. I will check with Mike Laeding to see what photos he has for Boxer Indian sets.

 

[Martin Tabony]

Lawrence: In my Boxer photos, you will see two boxers running, carrying a ladder in addition to those climbing wall ladders. I will check with Mike Laeding to see what photos he has for Boxer Indian sets.

Great collection. It's nice to see the Texas A&M in a display, did you not like the Honour Guard in white uniforms?

Martin

 

[W T Allison II]

Martin: Thank you. You are refering to Ross' volunteers. There was a toy soldier maker in Calvert, Texas not far from College Station who made those. He stopped and several years later Little Band Man started production. I was hoping he would make a chuck wagon and a team pulling the cassion and gun. I like the set but never got around to buying it. After all, my daughter is an Aggie and I am orange.

 

[W T Allison II]

Dave: This may help and hurt your list. In 1987, B3 and B4 were U.S. Marines and Army advancing. B12 was a 3 piece set of a Bugler and troopers mounted of the Chasseurs d' Afrique. B13 was a 6 piece set of Her Majesty' 1st Chinese Regiment with British officer. B18 was a Chinese Imperial Gun Battery with 12 pounder field piece with Chinese officer and 3 gunners in same uniform as the Dragon gun battery. In 1988, B18 did not appear and the sets were renumbered with the identifier "BS". I have never seen B12, 13 and 18. Mike Laeding specially commissioned the "running with ladder" set and extra ladders and climbers to sell with the Diorama. Mike also said Len told him he produced the Boxer series three different times which may account for the difference in the figures as to bulk, etc.

 

[Martin Tabony]

Martin: Thank you. You are refering to Ross' volunteers. There was a toy soldier maker in Calvert, Texas not far from College Station who made those. He stopped and several years later Little Band Man started production. I was hoping he would make a chuck wagon and a team pulling the cassion and gun. I like the set but never got around to buying it. After all, my daughter is an Aggie and I am orange.

I also made The Longhorns for Jady .

Martin