Civility on the Forum (1 Viewer)

[lancer]

The problem is the sense of entitlement, there is freedom of speech and it is easy to hide behind the internet.
However this is a private forum owned by Shannon & Peter and is provided by them free of charge for us to share our hobby. People lose site of this fact and I think one should conduct themselves as if they were in Shannon & Peters own home. Think about if you will, if some of the comments here on the forum occurred in your home, would you put up with it? I think the answer would be NO! (but what about freedom of speech?)I rather think that person would be escorted toot sweet from your home if he continued to behave in such a manner.

The forum should be no different.

No one is saying you have to like this or that or dislike this or that, lets just be nice instead of jumping down each others throats.

Certainly makes sense to me. Good post. -- Al

 

[Firebat]

Boy I am glad I never had a problem on this forum :rolleyes2:{sm2}

 

[Scott]

The words may attributed to wrong person, but they couldn't be any truer.

Now you've just been enlighten Scott.:wink2:

Respects!:tongue:

But not by poor ol' Jerry Ford. These leaders didn't just stand on the porch and pronounce these "bumper stickers." The "Tree of Liberty" statement is buried in a Jefferson letter along with "...The people cannot be all, & always well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive...." Yep!:wink2:

 

[larso]

There is the saying 'that if you've got something to say about me then say it to my face'. A very worthy point too. Except that I think we'd have a lot more knife fights if people actually did this more often! (though in the modern world it'd probably be 'glassings' rather than knife fights)

 

[lancer]

There is the saying 'that if you've got something to say about me then say it to my face'. A very worthy point too. Except that I think we'd have a lot more knife fights if people actually did this more often! (though in the modern world it'd probably be 'glassings' rather than knife fights)

I would add this, Never bring a knife to a gun fight. {sm2} -- Al

 

[Napoleon1er]

Interesting thread. I hope I haven't made too many people mad or insulted anyone, and sorry if I did. I just think that people here need to step back and look at this whole thing. Yeah, sometimes I get really mad about a post, historical or brand related (though not often), but i try not to respond back with an inflammatory remark. Wether or not you are a kid (like me) or a 80 year old guy (as I assume the rest of you must be^&grin^&grin), Scott's (britfarmer's) signature is very true: I first decide if responding to the former post will even matter (is this person going to rant back even if I am very nice?), then I write a simply statement of my opinion, taking care to say something nice about their opinion or post, and ending with a positive and "but that's just opinion" remark. We all have things we tend to get riled up about, and many of us (including me) have a innate need to respond. But just imagine you and that person are talking while looking at your collection, and respond how you would in that situation.
-Sandor

P.S. Scott- you really are one of the funniest people I have met!

 

[marco55]

I actually find that signature of his pretty arrogant- I'm a grown man, I can figure things out for myself- I really don't need to be given "Advice" from anyone. But hey, that's me, I still like the BF, and I know he accepts me for my flaws as I do with what I perceive to be his.

I've had quite the laugh over the years listening to the "civil" clique tell the rest of us when we are and aren't being civil- you know because this forum doesn't have excellent moderators already, we need the rest of you to tell us when we aren't being civil. Last time I checked, most of us are males on this forum at various stages of age and maturity development. Men fight bicker and argue about all sorts of things- 99% of which is complete nonsense- heck, there are several of you lawyer types on this forum who make a living essentially arguing. Anyway, men fight to the death about nonsense like- best rock band, best football team, LAH vs. Romans, North vs. South- after being a card carrying member of the man club for 39 years now, I simply chalk it up to genetic flaw in our design and drive on. What men also do is agree to disagree and don't carry grudges- I may argue till I'm blue in the face about something idiotic like the LAH and collectors preferences but that doesnt mean I still wouldnt respect the guys who collect it and judge them by how I condcut myself.

At the end of the day, this "civility" notion is pretty pompous in my opinion and is simply ignorant of the fact that we are men and we argue. I would prefer to simply accept the "flaws" I see in people and recognize that no one is perfect- moi being a case in point.

The Beaver Wars are back.Great post.I enjoy this forum but some people think the are the world's policeman.People want to argue,let them argue.This is cyberworld.Most of us will never meet.Letting it out is good for the heart.If something bothers you that much DON"T READ IT!It's that simple.Time to grow up and join the real world.

Mark

 

[glossman]

..........I have not enjoyed this forum because it is a microcosm but the opposite. I love the fact that a bunch of predominantly middle aged men from around the world spend so much time and money on toys. I find it a great hobby - once again based on my two months - not because of its importance but because it is the only part of my week which is inconsequential - which paradoxically makes it important.

Just a few thoughts from a newbie!

Jack,

I love this quote:

"I find it a great hobby.....not because of its importance but because it is the only part of my week which is inconsequential - which paradoxically makes it important."

The therapeutic value of this great hobby!

Joe

I had a good chuckle on this one.....never mind how "middle aged" is defined.

"I love the fact that a bunch of predominantly middle aged men from around the world spend so much time and money on toys." ^&grin

Raymond.

 

[Jack]

I had a good chuckle on this one.....never mind how "middle aged" is defined.

"I love the fact that a bunch of predominantly middle aged men from around the world spend so much time and money on toys." ^&grin

Raymond.

The Oxford Dictionary of the Australian Language defines 'middle aged' as 'two years older than Jack'.

 

[Jack]

There is the saying 'that if you've got something to say about me then say it to my face'. A very worthy point too. Except that I think we'd have a lot more knife fights if people actually did this more often! (though in the modern world it'd probably be 'glassings' rather than knife fights)

At 5'4" Larso, that might limit the number of people you could insult to their face! Could you insult their midriff?

 

[hsm]

{eek3}^&confuse

thats all i got to say about that!{sm0}

 

[larso]

"At 5'4" Larso, that might limit the number of people you could insult to their face! Could you insult their midriff?"

I'm 5'9' !! Given you've also got my hair colour wrong (though commendably!), I'm beginning to wonder if there is some other Larso I don't know about? By the way, for the record, if any of you do actually come up and accuse me of saying things behind your back, I'll just reply with a wondering look and say ''Of course?"

 

[Denver]

Is these some method of Civility Defense that
can be exercised politely ?

 

[damian]

I actually find that signature of his pretty arrogant- I'm a grown man, I can figure things out for myself- I really don't need to be given "Advice" from anyone. But hey, that's me, I still like the BF, and I know he accepts me for my flaws as I do with what I perceive to be his.

I've had quite the laugh over the years listening to the "civil" clique tell the rest of us when we are and aren't being civil- you know because this forum doesn't have excellent moderators already, we need the rest of you to tell us when we aren't being civil. Last time I checked, most of us are males on this forum at various stages of age and maturity development. Men fight bicker and argue about all sorts of things- 99% of which is complete nonsense- heck, there are several of you lawyer types on this forum who make a living essentially arguing. Anyway, men fight to the death about nonsense like- best rock band, best football team, LAH vs. Romans, North vs. South- after being a card carrying member of the man club for 39 years now, I simply chalk it up to genetic flaw in our design and drive on. What men also do is agree to disagree and don't carry grudges- I may argue till I'm blue in the face about something idiotic like the LAH and collectors preferences but that doesnt mean I still wouldnt respect the guys who collect it and judge them by how I condcut myself.

At the end of the day, this "civility" notion is pretty pompous in my opinion and is simply ignorant of the fact that we are men and we argue. I would prefer to simply accept the "flaws" I see in people and recognize that no one is perfect- moi being a case in point.

Now trooper hold on there. You don't get promoted by back chatting the brass.
100%
Capice
Comprehendo amigo
Well done

 

[hsm]

to quote The DI from Stripes-
"lighten up Francis"

HSM out.

 

[The Military Workshop]

A couple of members have had a go at the words a Mod (BF) has put below each of his posts and suggested they were arrogant. I would have to disagree with them.

The Mods have willingly chosen to help out TF by keeping an eye on things and for this we should be grateful. BF's words of advice, whilst I may not always heed them, are sound and I find it hard to comprehend that they might bother some forum members. If you find the Mods here are too much then it is not hard to find another Toy Soldier forum where there are no Mods. I know which I prefer.

If I make a post as part of a discussion and it is deleted for whatever reason then I accept it. TF, aided by the Mods, have every right to impose their standard of civility on the forum.

Regards
Brett
PS. Larso looks more like a 5 ft 9" than a 5ft 4" {sm4}

 

[Jack]

A couple of members have had a go at the words a Mod (BF) has put below each of his posts and suggested they were arrogant. I would have to disagree with them.

The Mods have willingly chosen to help out TF by keeping an eye on things and for this we should be grateful. BF's words of advice, whilst I may not always heed them, are sound and I find it hard to comprehend that they might bother some forum members. If you find the Mods here are too much then it is not hard to find another Toy Soldier forum where there are no Mods. I know which I prefer.

If I make a post as part of a discussion and it is deleted for whatever reason then I accept it. TF, aided by the Mods, have every right to impose their standard of civility on the forum.

Regards
Brett
PS. Larso looks more like a 5 ft 9" than a 5ft 4" {sm4}

Only because you're 5'3"!

 

[Warrior]

This forum, like all forums, is made up of a large collection of people, some with strong personalities.

Put them all together in a large pot and at times, you're not always going to get along with each other.

But you do need to respect each other.

Respect their collecting habits, respect their opinions on whether a product is good or bad and don't jump down a persons throat if they don't care for a product from your personal favorite #1 best in the world can't be beat manufacturer, no need to get your shorts in a bunch; because someone doesn't like a product is no reason to insult/attack/ridicule them.

We're all entitled to our opinion.

So relax people.

 

[Rob]

Well said George. If someone doesn't like what you collect well thats their hard luck isn't it, it doesn't bother me in the slightest. I collect a superior product and don't mind who doesn't agree , but I don't feel the need to slag them off on here , just be happy in yourself and what you collect{bravo}}:salute::

I also think its good manners not to drift someones thread on purpose, sometimes it does happen but I try and swing it back on topic if possible.

Rob

This forum, like all forums, is made up of a large collection of people, some with strong personalities.

Put them all together in a large pot and at times, you're not always going to get along with each other.

But you do need to respect each other.

Respect their collecting habits, respect their opinions on whether a product is good or bad and don't jump down a persons throat if they don't care for a product from your personal favorite #1 best in the world can't be beat manufacturer, no need to get your shorts in a bunch; because someone doesn't like a product is no reason to insult/attack/ridicule them.

We're all entitled to our opinion.

So relax people.

 

[uksubs]

What worries me about the forum now is it going back to the bad old days, when you can't voice your opinion on the hobby , any other hobby you could talk about any brand talk about the good the bad and the ugly but not on this forum and it down to the members and not the mods ,people may say they have not got a problem with people finding problem with there favorite brand but it must or we would not have all this childish stuff going on my brand better than your, don't forget these companies sell there items as detailed toy soldiers and for the price there selling they should be right . So people need to respect people opinion witch I thought was what the forum about .