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[Alex]

I disagree with you on one point and one point only.
I don't think so that you can correlate number of sets sold, number of ranges dones, number of collectors with the fact that this or this other manufacturer is the number one in the 'toy' soldier world. Quality and quality vs price ratio should be taken into account too. In fact, for the purists (and the ones with deep pockets) only quality will matter. I would buy anytime a BMW 3 series over a Toyota Yaris even though the Yaris is cheaper and it's sales are outselling those of BMW.
So in my book the best historical miniature figures are :

1) St Peterburg high end miniatures or any figures (Pegaso sculpts for example) painted by a pro painter.
2) Aeroart and First Legion (FL sculpts are more accurate than Aeroart ones most often than not)
3) K&C for the figures
3 bis) ex aquo Figarti for the vehicules
4) the rest

That is only my humble opinion of course. Now I would agree that for the mass market, K&C is the leader because for the price, you have a very good product.

Now what I hate in any forums on the internet, is that it's difficult to translate in words something you would like to tell someone if he was in front of you. For me, Mr Neilson sounds a little bit cocky sometimes when writting posts in these forums BUT I don't know the man in person and someone can be cocky if he wishes... Why not, as long as everybody is respecting everybody else here, I think that threads such as these ones are fine and can be sometimes constructive.

Cheers,

Alex

There was a suggestion by an apparent WWII collector that there was a "void" that could be filled by other manufacturers.

Consider the current K&C Despatches which shows the July/August releases as :

5 Civilian sets
FW190 and 3 Luftwaffe figures
2 Landing Craft and 6 Navy figures
1 Spitfire, an Ambulance and 8 RAF figures
1 Panther, a Raupenschelepper an anti tank gun and 5 figure sets

in summary 7 vehicles/boats/planes, an anti tank set and 27 figure sets.

and don't forget the
1 Chinese fisherman and
8 American Revolution figures

When it comes to "voids" no manufacturer is filling as many WWII wishes as K&C. But that is just my opinion (or perhaps if based on sales it might be considered a fact).

I have not added them up but I believe K&C's current WWII offerings would be more than FL, CS, TG and Figarti combined.

Oh and at the same time K&C are filling a few "voids" for those who are interested in Ancient Egypt, Life of Jesus, Medieval, American Revolution, ACW, Napoleonics, Alamo, Real West, World War One, Oriental and Diorama items.

NOTE to K&C : It seems you are not doing enough to satisfy every individual collector ..........................but the good news is you are making more collectors happy across a wider spectrum than any other manufacturer.

Keep up the good work !

Regards
Brett

 

[Rutledge]

Hi Guys,

Our old pal “Vezzolf” asked the following…

1. Why does K&C not release more Panzer Grey AFV’s…?

Well, over the years I would say we’ve released a fair few including a Panzer 1… Panzer II… Panzer III and Panzer IV plus a Stug and a Kubelwagen… and that strange looking armoured car… plus a Krupp Protze and the early 232 and I’m sure a couple of others… But maybe “Vezzolf” didn’t’ notice those!!!

2. Why don’t K&C provide AFV’s with different turret numbers?

Because Vezzolf old chum, the vast majority of collectors do not purchase multiple quantities of armoured vehicles therefore it is not economically viable to do so… trucks, landing craft are exceptions to the rule,

3. Vezzolf has, he says, shifted his collection towards all those other
manufacturers who are “filling his void”.

Now my friend, please be specific, supply us all with those companies producing heaps of Panzer grey AFV’s with different turret numbers? I’m sure we would all benefit from your view on this.

Love ‘n’ kisses,
Andy C.

Perhaps you could address one additional grievance, Andy? What to do about those pesky toy soldier dealers who add nothing but cost to the system and thus drive up prices for collectors? Boy, it sure would be great if you could address that nettlesome little issue!

 

[thebritfarmer]

The whole mine is better than yours is REALLY getting tiring.

Please stop trying to derail threads and bait members.

 

[tdubel]

The whole mine is better than yours is REALLY getting tiring.

Please stop trying to derail threads and bait members.

NO Crap. How many times does this crap happen?????????????? Seriously, no offense Vezz, but maybe keep the FL on the FL side and the K&C on the K&C side.

Request more Panzer Grey vehicles, but leave off the filling the void, accuracy opinions, etc. Whether you say you are or aren't it is thread baiting and it causes the same tired dance.

All it does is drain the entire thread right down the crapper. I for one am sick of it. It is the same song and dance.

TD

 

[Rutledge]

Boy, you're really boring.

Gee Harve, we're not acquainted, are we? Three mad faces, a heck of a way to start.

What is boring to one person is not to another. I usually ignore things I find boring. You might try that approach.

But you are not bored, are you? You're mad, apparently. Sorry, cant help you there.

My question FOR ANDY stands.

 

[OzDigger]

NO Crap. How many times does this crap happen?????????????? Seriously, no offense Vezz, but maybe keep the FL on the FL side and the K&C on the K&C side.

Request more Panzer Grey vehicles, but leave off the filling the void, accuracy opinions, etc. Whether you say you are or aren't it is thread baiting and it causes the same tired dance.

All it does is drain the entire thread right down the crapper. I for one am sick of it. It is the same song and dance.

TD

Better still, why doesn't start a Forum on their Own Website, that would make everyone happy

 

[IXEC]

Maybe it's Panzer Pink

Matt.... so thats what it is..??.....

 

[Alex]

My local K&C dealer adds one thing besides additional cost and it's the fact that he let me open a new box, have a look at the figures and then let me buy it if i'm happy with it or replace it on the shelves (carefully repacked) if there's a bent gun or whatever I'm unhappy with.

That's for me a big plus but as long as the manufacturer backs up their products fully, I have no problems buying from them directly either ...

Alex

 

[Harvey]

NO Crap. How many times does this crap happen?????????????? Seriously, no offense Vezz, but maybe keep the FL on the FL side and the K&C on the K&C side.

Request more Panzer Grey vehicles, but leave off the filling the void, accuracy opinions, etc. Whether you say you are or aren't it is thread baiting and it causes the same tired dance.

All it does is drain the entire thread right down the crapper. I for one am sick of it. It is the same song and dance.

TD

Hi Tom,

Is it applying also to Rutledge?

Cheers,
Harvey.

 

[Rutledge]

Hi Tom,

Is it applying also to Rutledge?

Cheers,
Harvey.

Gosh Harve. Where's the love?

 

[Phantom Warrior]

If collectors feel that any manufacturer is not making the items they want, or the cost is too high, or they use the wrong distribution system, or they have an attitude - then don't buy their products. And stop whining because they aren't running their business to suit your needs as if you had some god given right to have the toys you want, how you want and when you want at the price you want.

It is tiresome. Maybe our hosts can set up a section for whining and other petty head games so the rest of us won't have to bother with the crap and let the real collectors talk about toy soldiers..

Terry

 

[OzDigger]

Matt.... so thats what it is..??.....

First Legion collectors may perceive that as Pink, the rest of the world would know it as Red. But there's not much chance of convincing you guys to the obvious, is there

 

[IXEC]

petty head games......let the real collectors talk about toy soldiers..


That does go both ways you know......

 

[Gideon]

this arguing is silly. this post contributes what to the hobby? all this baiting and sparring... C'mon.

Have a great night y'all!

 

[IXEC]

convincing you guys to the obvious.....

I'm sure convinced......

 

[desk11desk12]

Wow, this thread really grew legs on it didn't it.

Carlos

 

[Harvey]

Gosh Harve. Where's the love?

You're right, peace and love

Cheers,
Harvey

 

[IXEC]

Maybe our hosts can set up a section for......HUMOR


For collectors that know this is all ... playing with Toys, after all...

And not take everything....so personal and serious....

 

[tdubel]

Hi Tom,

Is it applying also to Rutledge?

Cheers,
Harvey.

I didn't see the comments prior to posting, but it applies to everyone on the board.

If anyone has not noticed, I no longer post my opinions as they are not worth the headache that ensues if someone dislikes them.

TD

 

[Simpson & his donkey.]

Gee I would of gotten a infraction if I had posted this thread.Simmo.