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GOT IT.....
Okay, any more of this kind of nonsense can go in my own More Close Encounters thread. Your fans may object to me and Reb's musings on here.
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Creating the Battle of the Bulge.....Wacht Am Rhine (1 Viewer)
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GOT IT.....
Okay, any more of this kind of nonsense can go in my own More Close Encounters thread. Your fans may object to me and Reb's musings on here.
Cheers
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Kevin
That's what I was trying to tell Harry without giving the whole name away.
Great band somewhat under-estimated today- saw them live twice!
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I.......wish.....I knew this one
Och....EEDJIT HEID....didn't spot the subliminal message....
Thought I was ERCHIE cos I reckoned I'd stumped you at last. Bob, aah is impressed maah maaaahn....!!!!
I don't want to go off into esoteric territory like Ten Years After, Mountain, Pilot and stuff like that. Want to keep it to bands and songs that other guys have a chance of getting. I'll try again in a wee while.
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The 422 and 423 Regiments surrendered, a bitter experience for many although by most accounts, some undoubtedly did panic or wish to surrender. Many of the officers and men wanted to fight, but the combination of surprise, the weather rendering air support and resupply hopeless and the total inexperience of many of the troops were catostrophic..................
The Germans marched in and the weapons not already destroyed were removed and the men taken captive......................
The Germans marched in and the weapons not already destroyed were removed and the men taken captive......................
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An entire division and it's attached units had effectively disintegrated in a short space of time, the most serious reverse in the ETO. Next to the surrender at Bataan it was the greatest mass surrender of American troops since the civil war.
18 Volksgrenadier Division had won the victory quickly and without any superiority in numbers - Chief of Staff, Oberstleutnant Moll again, after the war - For all the bravery shown by individual soldiers, it must be borne in mind that the 106 Div was made up of troops who had no combat experience - the failure must mainly be blamed on the lack of initiative shown by officers and NCOs. There had been no combat reconnaisance even before the attack began, a surprising factconsidering that bad weather prevented air recon.
He went on depressingly, no alert or pre-planned artillery support managed from the front, bridges not prepared for demolition, poor patroling etc..........
The grenadiers planned further advances towards St Vith and pushed on ................
18 Volksgrenadier Division had won the victory quickly and without any superiority in numbers - Chief of Staff, Oberstleutnant Moll again, after the war - For all the bravery shown by individual soldiers, it must be borne in mind that the 106 Div was made up of troops who had no combat experience - the failure must mainly be blamed on the lack of initiative shown by officers and NCOs. There had been no combat reconnaisance even before the attack began, a surprising factconsidering that bad weather prevented air recon.
He went on depressingly, no alert or pre-planned artillery support managed from the front, bridges not prepared for demolition, poor patroling etc..........
The grenadiers planned further advances towards St Vith and pushed on ................
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There was a final tragic post script to the demise of the 106th US Infantry Dvision - most of the officers captured were put in the POW camp at Hammelburg - Oflag VII.
In March 1945, Patton ordered a task force of 4th Armoured to thrust 100km behind the lines to rescue them - they included John Waters, his son-in-law.
Captain Abraham J. Baum lead the task force that fought its way there
but it was overwhelmed shortly after reaching the camp itself, losing over 290 of 300 men - only three - or fifteen depending upon the account - made it back to US lines.
In March 1945, Patton ordered a task force of 4th Armoured to thrust 100km behind the lines to rescue them - they included John Waters, his son-in-law.
Captain Abraham J. Baum lead the task force that fought its way there
but it was overwhelmed shortly after reaching the camp itself, losing over 290 of 300 men - only three - or fifteen depending upon the account - made it back to US lines.
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St Vith would not fall so easily, as Bradley happened to be at the Allied HQ - in Versailles - (tough at the top!) on 16 December when he heard of some limited pushes 'five slight penetrations' on a wide front. He considered this a spoiling attack for Patton's drive to the Saar, but ordered 7th Armoured from 9th Army in the North and 10th Armoured from 3rd Army in the south - as a precaution - as he and Eisenhower did not underestimate the scale of the blow.
7th Armoured CCB was dispatched to Bastogne, VIII Corps HQ, to report to Maj Gen Middleton the Corps commander.
At 1030 hours on 16 December 1944, the 9th Army designated two routes to the assemby area around St Vith. Clarke arrived in the early hours of 17 December and was briefed by Maj Gen Jones of the encirclement on the Schnee Eifel and a counter attack was planned to assist the 106th Inf Div.
7th Armoured would therefore now be running headlong into the most potent attacking force, as the 1 SS Panzer Div was at this time hurtling westwards. The idea was to create a corridor for escape of the 106th between CCB 7th Armoured and CCB 9th Armoured, already engaged near Winterspelt.
In the event, it was a narrow miss, as the right hand column of 7th Armoured just missed becoming embroiled with Kampfegruppe Peiper!
7th Armoured CCB was dispatched to Bastogne, VIII Corps HQ, to report to Maj Gen Middleton the Corps commander.
At 1030 hours on 16 December 1944, the 9th Army designated two routes to the assemby area around St Vith. Clarke arrived in the early hours of 17 December and was briefed by Maj Gen Jones of the encirclement on the Schnee Eifel and a counter attack was planned to assist the 106th Inf Div.
7th Armoured would therefore now be running headlong into the most potent attacking force, as the 1 SS Panzer Div was at this time hurtling westwards. The idea was to create a corridor for escape of the 106th between CCB 7th Armoured and CCB 9th Armoured, already engaged near Winterspelt.
In the event, it was a narrow miss, as the right hand column of 7th Armoured just missed becoming embroiled with Kampfegruppe Peiper!
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Combat command R at the head of the right hand units reached the Recht area without incident,
but the divisional artillery brushed with 1 SS Panzer, losing the Chief of Staff, Colonel Mathews, in an ambush.
They switched to go through Stavelot whist others, hearing of the congestion, went further North via Verviers and Spa - where General Hodges had his command.
When Peiper advanced a little further to Stavelot, he was only a few miles away, but over the hills.
They pressed on towards the Meuse.....................
but the divisional artillery brushed with 1 SS Panzer, losing the Chief of Staff, Colonel Mathews, in an ambush.
They switched to go through Stavelot whist others, hearing of the congestion, went further North via Verviers and Spa - where General Hodges had his command.
When Peiper advanced a little further to Stavelot, he was only a few miles away, but over the hills.
They pressed on towards the Meuse.....................
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Panda I,m not a WWII guy but your dios are amazing! I love the way the light in your dios makes them look so realistic. Now how to get you to start collecting napoleonics???
Now how to get you to start collecting napoleonics???
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Panda I,m not a WWII guy but your dios are amazing! I love the way the light in your dios makes them look so realistic.
A large cheque seldom offends.......
Seriosly, would love to but I can't collect everything!
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thanks
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Loved the pictures Kevin, you're in the wrong job, you should have ben a film director ! I thought that you might like to know that Rapid Fire have a new scenario book out for the Battle of the Bulge. Maybe we could get your collection dirty in my field sometime ? All the best, Simon
All the best, Simon
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Loved the pictures Kevin, you're in the wrong job, you should have ben a film director ! I thought that you might like to know that Rapid Fire have a new scenario book out for the Battle of the Bulge. Maybe we could get your collection dirty in my field sometime ?
Simon
Was recently just trying to obtain my 'pass' for another session - can't believe it has been one year nearly!
Kevin
edited because I wanted to write 'mongtype' - LOL
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