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[HistoryfortheAges]

Great Custer figure! {bravo}} I'll be picking that one up! That's it for me as I am taking my collecting in a new direction...

 

[Grognard]

Love the Horse Grenadiers and the Cuirassier general. Thanks Andy! :smile2:

 

[wayne556517]

YES, very pleased with all 8 mounted figures, they will look great 'on parade'

:smile2::smile2:

BUT .....

I will need financial backing to include them into my collection.....



The 6 Grenadiers de la Garde Imperiale are $654

The 2 General Officers $ 230

and if you take into account last month's wonderful 5 x Dromedarie Corps from Napoleon in Egypt at $575

thats $1475 for the 2 month's NAP releases....

Oh well, looks like I will be taking in more painting projects to fund my desires :redface2::redface2:

Whats coming next.... Wayne ? Howard? Luiz? Robin? Tom?

John

Mate i can always find something for you to repaint..................^&grin

 

[TomNT]

YES, very pleased with all 8 mounted figures, they will look great 'on parade'

:smile2::smile2:

BUT .....

I will need financial backing to include them into my collection.....



The 6 Grenadiers de la Garde Imperiale are $654

The 2 General Officers $ 230

and if you take into account last month's wonderful 5 x Dromedarie Corps from Napoleon in Egypt at $575

thats $1475 for the 2 month's NAP releases....

Oh well, looks like I will be taking in more painting projects to fund my desires :redface2::redface2:

Whats coming next.... Wayne ? Howard? Luiz? Robin? Tom?

John

I might be in touch soon John with a few repaints (and repair) so i hope that will help fund your new acquisitions....

Tom

 

[jager7080]

An Army Cavalry Scout in Iraq as was..... I ^&cool

I had seen you mention that you were a Cav Scout in the previous post...When you mentioned the 7th Cavalry figures...Because my brother was one , i thought of him when i saw the dispatches...He had been attached to a special unit that was involved in the capture of 65 high value targets in Iraq...Met alot of his Cav Unit when they flew in to attend his funeral in 09...
Flew in from all over the US to pay their respects...Some great guys , who really showed you what a bond they all had together...

Joe

 

[Obee]

When I saw the Imperial Camel Corp release today (missed Dispatches for my B’day dinner out at a restaurant) I thought that the cloths were far too bright
and would have only been used by
Napoleon’s Dromedary Troopers
or the
3 Wise Men !!!!

The colour image I have is from the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, where they have recreated a trooper on his camel and you can see his saddle cloth is very drab.



I’d have to suggest that a repaint of all cloths and red triangular shoulder patches are needed to accurately repesent this famous Regiment.

Anyone else think the same ?????

John

 

[Poppo]

When I saw the Imperial Camel Corp release today (missed Dispatches for my B’day dinner out at a restaurant) I thought that the cloths were far too bright
and would have only been used by
Napoleon’s Dromedary Troopers
or the
3 Wise Men !!!!

The colour image I have is from the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, where they have recreated a trooper on his camel and you can see his saddle cloth is very drab.

View attachment 109056

I’d have to suggest that a repaint of all cloths and red triangular shoulder patches are needed to accurately repesent this famous Regiment.

Anyone else think the same ?????

John

I think exactly the same John!

And you put the evidence of your saying. KC is making more and more bright figures along the years probably to sell more and to justify the incrising prices and hiding some lack of details: you can see this in different ranges, the cartoonish style is the rule now.In napoleonics or crusaders this style could somehow pass, but in WW1 and WW2 defentely not! And you can see this in almost every ranges ,the primary shining colours, and often the black lines to share them.

As you rightly say they should try to make more useful detais and put more realistic colours

 

[Isandlwana]

The ALH are great. For me, they're on a par with FL's Glory of Rome series. I've read with interest the comments regarding the ICC figures and as an adjunct, my only gripe with the series is the colour of the SMLE's. They bug me a little but not enough to stop me loving them! I own a fair few SMLE's and I've never seen one in "borange"!!!

 

[spokeye]

Giday everyone,

I think the saddle cloths etc of the three Imperial Camel Corps figures look rediculous. The first thing I will do should I buy these figures is to repaint the saddle cloths etc a drab colour.

Andy is it too late to change the colour of the saddle cloths etc?

Best wishes,

Spok

 

[maddadicus]

I think exactly the same John!

And you put the evidence of your saying. KC is making more and more bright figures along the years probably to sell more and to justify the incrising prices and hiding some lack of details: you can see this in different ranges, the cartoonish style is the rule now.In napoleonics or crusaders this style could somehow pass, but in WW1 and WW2 defentely not! And you can see this in almost every ranges ,the primary shining colours, and often the black lines to share them.

As you rightly say they should try to make more useful detais and put more realistic colours

K/C has been the absolute market leader in producing this style of toy soldier ,probably has the biggest collector base as well as the greatest continuous annual sales..WHY IN THE WORLD SHOULD THEY CHANGE because you think so.^&confuse ..Fortunately for you, there are other companies that produce your type of TS figure. Michael

 

[maddadicus]

John, my guess is that most collectors will embrace the current cloths representations. These are toy soldiers ,color is not a bad thing, drab is boring and looks sad under the display case lights.. Michael

When I saw the Imperial Camel Corp release today (missed Dispatches for my B’day dinner out at a restaurant) I thought that the cloths were far too bright
and would have only been used by
Napoleon’s Dromedary Troopers
or the
3 Wise Men !!!!

The colour image I have is from the Australian War Memorial in Canberra, where they have recreated a trooper on his camel and you can see his saddle cloth is very drab.

View attachment 109056

I’d have to suggest that a repaint of all cloths and red triangular shoulder patches are needed to accurately repesent this famous Regiment.

Anyone else think the same ?????

John

 

[jazzeum]

I think exactly the same John!

And you put the evidence of your saying. KC is making more and more bright figures along the years probably to sell more and to justify the incrising prices and hiding some lack of details: you can see this in different ranges, the cartoonish style is the rule now.In napoleonics or crusaders this style could somehow pass, but in WW1 and WW2 defentely not! And you can see this in almost every ranges ,the primary shining colours, and often the black lines to share them.

As you rightly say they should try to make more useful detais and put more realistic colours

K & C make a more vivid style but that is nothing new. It's just their style. I happen to like it but I like a variety of styles and I suspect many others do as well.

The term "cartoonish" is not justified. You may not like every figure they make but others do and that is why "variety is the spice of life."

 

[joesgis]

What a fantastic array of new releases. The things that really jumped out at me other than the vast variety were the Flying Tiger and pilots, the WWI Australian Camel Corps, the (expandable) Chinese frontier fort, and the new Custer's Last Stand range. Collector's of the Real West range are big rewarded big time for their patience. The Napoleonic Horse Grenadiers of the Imperial Guard look fantastic as well. The Mounted Bessieres (NA239) is an outstanding figure just full of presence. Wonderful stuff by the K & C team. Thanks Rob for posting the dispatches as soon as the become available. I'm already looking forward to the next and final one of 2012.

Joe

 

[Isandlwana]

You may not like every figure they make but others do

That would suggest that someone out there finds every single K&C figure wonderful. I find that difficult to compute and somewhat implausible, but willing to read, with some interest and maybe a little scepticism, from someone with a contrary opinion.

I do, however, admire the skill in making every single one of them.

I have to concede that I am stationed in the historical accuracy billet rather than the 'pwetty colours' camp. I'm an ALH collector but the ICC are not for me in their current guise, even though they are certainly 'pwetty'.

 

[jazzeum]

I didn't mean to imply that everyone may like all their figures although I see how it could be read that way. What I meant to say that for every figure a person may not like there may be some who do like it.

 

[Isandlwana]

Unfortunately the often fabricated Lincolnism of 'You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time' is almost apt when it comes to TS, especially the last two segments of that sentence!

 

[jazzeum]

Unfortunately the often fabricated Lincolnism of 'You can please some of the people all of the time, you can please all of the people some of the time, but you can’t please all of the people all of the time' is almost apt when it comes to TS, especially the last two segments of that sentence!

That probably applies to life in general :wink2:

 

[Northgate Woods]

John, my guess is that most collectors will embrace the current cloths representations. These are toy soldiers ,color is not a bad thing, drab is boring and looks sad under the display case lights.. Michael

Michael mate,
Normally over the years I have agreed with all of your posts but with this one I cannot. I would not put myself into the "rivet counter" category but a reasonable amount of historical accuracy is expected in TS. Colour, I am all for it in NA, NE, SOHK, IC, AE, AG, LoJ, etc. but when it comes to WW1 and WW2 I tend to think that the collector is some what entitled to as close as is possible to the real thing.

I consider myself to be one of the largest collectors of K&C in the Land of OZ and have a very large collection of ALH. In the past I have not minded sending ten or twenty troops over to Obee to have their shoulder colour patch changed to represent their correct unit.e.g. 12th LH Regt, 4th MG Sqn, 4th Sigs Tp, 4th Bde HQ, etc. These are my choices to get historical accuracy for a large Dio. I do not expect K&C to do this for me. Andy has a business to run and make a living.

Three years ago when the Lighthorse range was released I was just so happy to have the range available that I wouldn't have cared if they were all sculpted well and painted in pink. My good mate Obee would have fixed that for me.
But now we come to the Imperial Camel Corp. Once again I was over the moon to have this range released and place a reasonable order with my dealer accordingly on seeing the grey masters at the K&C Dinner in Brisbane in July. The thought of this range expanding with the LH range was quite exciting. Add to that the new ME range of Brits in Palestine to come in 2013 and I was one little happy Aussie Vegemite.

Now having seen the Dispatches two days ago and nearly cried like a big shiela, I am very disappointed, not with the sculpting but with the historical accuracy of the saddle blankets on the camels. I searched all my extensive library of the Palestine campaign but could not find any photos on the Camel Corp. which prove these to be correct. A coloured photo from Obee, which has been posted was the straw that broke the camel's (no pun intend) back.

After two days of soul searching and emails with other Aussie collectors and of course Obee I was left with two choices. (1) On release from my Dealer have them all sent across to John for a repaint.
(To you blokes in the US that is like sending from LA to NY.) Repaint and postage costs to be consider. or (2) Cancel the order completely. I choose with great sorrow, the later. Very Disappointed.
Cheers Howard

 

[Harper (aka Spitfrnd)]

I haven't been to their site; who is that figures supposed to represent? For the apparent vintage of the uniform, it is not clear what pistols those are supposed to represent either. Does someone know?

 

[Isandlwana]

He carried two British Bulldog pistols but I'm not qualified enough to know whether or not these are an accurate representation. They seem to contradict Black Hawk's representation but an expert will need to interject on this point.

I can't see his hunting knife though.