Eagle Design Tiger I (1 Viewer)

[Hunter Rose]

FL Panzers should have metal tracks at their price point IMO.

The material of the tracks does not really matter, it's the execution of the tracks that's important. You can have great looking tracks in metal, soft resin, or hard resin.

The metal tracks on the Eagle Designs Tiger are probably the best of all the tracks they have done. The Eagle Designs tracks on the Panzer III and IV look fine, but they are a little thick for scale proportionality and the soft resin tracks that FL used on their Panzer III and IV look better IMO.

I think the best tracks are the hard resin ones used by Figarti and JJD. Same material and both show excellent track detail. The better execution is on the JJD models, though, as sometimes Figarti tracks on their Panthers and Tigers weren't taut and looked like they had a kink in them.

 

[katana]

Thanks for the response. The Friulmodel metal tracks are used in 1/35 scale competition models because the hang of the tracks between suspension points is very realistic. Figarti tried to accomplish this with resin tracks which was not very successful as you pointed out. The Minichamps tracks were very successful and set a new standard for detail in prebuilt model Panzers.
ED seems to be following in Minichamps footsteps; but in 1/30 scale and the result is very good. I expect the will follow up with a Panther and Kingtiger in the near future. ED seems to be aiming to occupy the place in the Toy Soldier market vacated by Figarti. ED's rate of product releases is amazing! Combined with the War Park figures these two companies could come to dominate the WWII 60mm Toy Soldier market IMO.

 

[Warrior]

Some disparaging comments have been made about the quality of the ED metal tracks on the FL thread. They look really good in photos; as good as Minichamps. . Can someone who has an ED Tiger I comment on the quality of the metal tracks. FL Panzers should have metal tracks at their price point IMO.

Since you mentioned it, I was the one who made the comments.

And I stand by them, they look like they were glued on in sections during the production process.


They look sloppy to me; I did also state the tracks on the Tiger I look better.


I really don't understand your infatuation with metal tracks; please don't tell me you equate value with the weight of the tank.


I have over 500 AFV's in my 20mm WWII collection; the tanks with the metal tracks look the worst IMO, they are mostly wargame quality kits, designed to be thrown together quickly and easily. Visually, they are not very appealing, the tracks are thick, sloppy and bulky looking.


The ones that are the best are the numerous model kits I have and also the diecast tanks from Dragon, Hobby Master, Panzerstahl and other diecast companies, none of whom use metal tracks.

 

[katana]

I appreciate your information. What do you think of Minichamps metal tracks?

Since you mentioned it, I was the one who made the comments.

And I stand by them, they look like they were glued on in sections during the production process.


They look sloppy to me; I did also state the tracks on the Tiger I look better.


I really don't understand your infatuation with metal tracks; please don't tell me you equate value with the weight of the tank.


I have over 500 AFV's in my 20mm WWII collection; the tanks with the metal tracks look the worst IMO, they are mostly wargame quality kits, designed to be thrown together quickly and easily. Visually, they are not very appealing, the tracks are thick, sloppy and bulky looking.


The ones that are the best are the numerous model kits I have and also the diecast tanks from Dragon, Hobby Master, Panzerstahl and other diecast companies, none of whom use metal tracks.

 

[Warrior]

I appreciate your information. What do you think of Minichamps metal tracks?

Considering when Minichamps tanks were made, their tracks were state of the art. Their vehicles were too clean looking for my taste; that said, the first Panther tank they made is one of the nicest models ever made, anywhere, by anyone.

A shame they are not around today as they'd thrive in this market.

 

[TomNT]

Some disparaging comments have been made about the quality of the ED metal tracks on the FL thread. They look really good in photos; as good as Minichamps. . Can someone who has an ED Tiger I comment on the quality of the metal tracks. FL Panzers should have metal tracks at their price point IMO.

Kat, I posted in this thread the following info along with pictures of my camo Tiger in post # 23. I think the tracks on this tank are excellent and very realistic.

Hi all

Last week my ED camo Tiger arrived and to say I'm happy with it would be an understatement! The quality of the tank is first rate along with the painting and weathering and overall detail. All the hatches open and close and the barrel elevates smoothly with no droop. The weight is also excellent, not to heavy but not to light, just right in my opinion. The tracks I believe are made of metal and they have a nice sag to them, just like the real deal. The body of the tank is made of resin, similar to the FL Tigers but the ED Tiger is a lot heavier, probably because of the metal tracks. The FL Tigers have rubber tracks. The price is also excellent at $196 USD fully shipped to your door. The camo version I got has sold out along with the grey version but there are other versions on the way and ED may release more of this version and the grey version in the future. Here are some pic's, the tank commander is from Kronprinz.

Tom

 

[katana]

I have the first version of the Minichamps Kingtiger; which compares favorably to any KT model I have ever seen! The Minichamps Sd.Kfz 251 and Jagdpanther are also very nice. You can still find them on Ebay. I bought the KT from Ewe Rommel in Stuttgart Germany. I will let you guess who his ancestor was!

The weight of a model is of no concern to me. Realism is and the more expensive the model the more realistic I expect it to be. I do a lot of research when I build and paint a model or figure and I expect the same level of research to go into a production model. Dragon 1/72 and 1/35 scale prebuilt models were very accurate in detail and color. I look forward to future JJD Panzers; their Jagdpanther has set a new standard in quality and value IMO.

Considering when Minichamps tanks were made, their tracks were state of the art. Their vehicles were too clean looking for my taste; that said, the first Panther tank they made is one of the nicest models ever made, anywhere, by anyone.

A shame they are not around today as they'd thrive in this market.

 

[ccdc11]

My winter Tiger arrived today. It had a bit of damage to one of the hatches but I think I can fix and it not be noticed.
my first impression is overall it's a good buy. The weathering is a huge step up from the first panzer 3 I bought from them.
Detail has greatly improved as well.
Here's some pics and I dropped a few WP figs in for scale(sorry none of my FL is ww2)

 

[ccdc11]

some more

 

[ccdc11]

A few more with a older K&C tiger

 

[TomNT]

Nice pic's and great looking Tiger, can't wait for mine to arrive. Good comparison pic's as well with the K&C Tiger. I reckon the new ED Tiger will work well with K&C and TG figures. The ED Tiger is larger than FL Tigers. I also have a camo ED Tiger (pic's are on previous posts in this thread) and clearly it is close in size to certain K&C Tigers (as the pic's below show as well) and larger than FL Tigers.

Tom

 

[katana]

Tom; the K&C early production tiger I has been measured many times by many collectors at 1/30 scale. A smaller FL Tiger I would indicate it is closer to 1/31 scale; which would be consistent with their figure size. FL WWII figures are smaller than WB WWII figures; which measure 60mm. The proportions are smaller too. No one has provided measurements on the ED Tiger I yet, so I cannot calculate the scale. The correct size of a Tiger I at 1/30 scale is: OAL 11" Hull Length 8.2" Width 4.8" Height 3.9"

Nice pic's and great looking Tiger, can't wait for mine to arrive. Good comparison pic's as well with the K&C Tiger. I reckon the new ED Tiger will work well with K&C and TG figures. The ED Tiger is larger than FL Tigers. I also have a camo ED Tiger (pic's are on previous posts in this thread) and clearly it is close in size to certain K&C Tigers (as the pic's below show as well) and larger than FL Tigers.

Tom

 

[ExRanger]

My winter Tiger arrived today. It had a bit of damage to one of the hatches but I think I can fix and it not be noticed.
my first impression is overall it's a good buy. The weathering is a huge step up from the first panzer 3 I bought from them.
Detail has greatly improved as well.
Here's some pics and I dropped a few WP figs in for scale(sorry none of my FL is ww2)

That is a really beautiful looking Tiger. Enjoy. I’m interested in their Panzer III. Would you mind posting pictures of your Eagle Panzer III? Putting together a Kharkov 43 battle and am thinking of picking up a Panzer III from Eagle.

 

[ccdc11]

I will gladly put pics of panzer 3 up, however I won’t be home till late.
There maybe some on here already.
Took a second look at the tiger today and I am happy enough with it to consider a buying another

 

[Vezzolf]

I have this ED Winter Tiger as well as the Grey ED Tiger.... I believe they measure out to 1:29th a bit larger then Figarti and FL which are accurate 1:30th.....These ED Tigers work very well with War Park and WB but not as well with FL IMHO

 

[katana]

You are correct about the Figarti Tiger I scale as being an accurate 1/30. The WB and Kronprinz figures are very realistic alongside it.. The FL figures are smaller and more delicately proportioned. The War Park figures look very good with the ED Tiger I and their proportions are similar to WB. What will ED produce next; a Panther or a Kingtiger? Either would be great with the ED metal tracks and wheels!

I have this ED Winter Tiger as well as the Grey ED Tiger.... I believe they measure out to 1:29th a bit larger then Figarti and FL which are accurate 1:30th.....These ED Tigers work very well with War Park and WB but not as well with FL IMHO

 

[ccdc11]

That is a really beautiful looking Tiger. Enjoy. I’m interested in their Panzer III. Would you mind posting pictures of your Eagle Panzer III? Putting together a Kharkov 43 battle and am thinking of picking up a Panzer III from Eagle.

I was going to post some for you but there are some already on here and much better than mine would be.
Eagle Design winter pz3 with war park figures. Great pics and they are accurate in color.

A day later of owning the winter tiger by ED. Well worth the money.
Chuck

 

[katana]

I can confirm your scale information. I just received photos with a scale adjacent to the ED Tiger I from Y-weido. The length of the hull is 8.5" and the width is 5..0" which is 1/29 scale.

If the ED Tiger I works with WB figures, why wouldn't it work with FL figures; are they that much smaller than WB figures?

I have this ED Winter Tiger as well as the Grey ED Tiger.... I believe they measure out to 1:29th a bit larger then Figarti and FL which are accurate 1:30th.....These ED Tigers work very well with War Park and WB but not as well with FL IMHO

 

[bradleyl30]

I can confirm your scale information. I just received photos with a scale adjacent to the ED Tiger I from Y-weido. The length of the hull is 8.5" and the width is 5..0" which is 1/29 scale.

If the ED Tiger I works with WB figures, why wouldn't it work with FL figures; are they that much smaller than WB figures?

No, they look fine together when compared to historical photos. We are just used to 1/28 figures next to 1/30 vehicles.

They are small but so are large portions of the population. I think they look best all mixed up rather than so uniform

Just to make sure I am clear. They do not look too small. They look like smaller, but natural and accurate people than WP, WB and KP figures.

 

[katana]

The 1/29 scale of the ED Tiger splits the difference between 1/30 and 1/28 scale figures; so both should look reasonably realistic with it IMO. The difference in the Tiger I dimensions between 1/30 and 1/29 is .2 inches or 5mm. The average height of European males in 1943 was 5' 8" or 1,727mm. he deck of a Tiger I is 1800mm high; so a realistic figure should not exceed the height of the deck. The accurate 1/30 scale Figarti Tiger I has a deck height of 60mm.

No, they look fine together when compared to historical photos. We are just used to 1/28 figures next to 1/30 vehicles.

They are small but so are large portions of the population. I think they look best all mixed up rather than so uniform

Just to make sure I am clear. They do not look too small. They look like smaller, but natural and accurate people than WP, WB and KP figures.