Exclusive Limited Edition Britains Civil War set (2 Viewers)

I just happened to look at this and both planned sets look very nice. Very well done.
 
mestell said:
The more I look at the prototype pictures of both sets #1 and #2, I am more certain than ever that these are more appropriate for a "2nd Bull Run/Manasas scenario, for example Brawner's Farm, than Gettysburg. One reason: Both Iron Brigade figures are smartly uniformed and both are wearing canvass leggings. At Brawner's Farm and 2nd Bull Run, the Iron Brigade was commanded by Brig Gen John Gibbon who was quite a disciplinarian and a stickler for wanting his brigade to look and fight like "Regulars". Thus, he uniformed them with their now famous Hardee "Black Hat" (which was regular army issue), and made them wear canvass leggings (again regular army issue) - even thought they were not well liked by the troops. By the time the Brigade got to Gettysburg, they were well seasoned veterans and looked the part - Hardee Hats were more personalized, uniforms were more "worn weary" and most of the troops were not wearing the leggings, which were no longer required by their currrent command. JMHO . . . . . . . . . Mike
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Mike, I don't think there was time to put up '' hasty works '' at Brawner's Farm. The Stonewall Brigade came out of the woods onto the field and the Iron Brigade deployed from the road. I always had the impression it was a stand up firefight with no defencive works. While both brigades stood within yards from each other, I don't know if they ever ''crossed bayonets''.

Gibbon sure was a stickler for details, and the gaiters were quite unpopular.
Its been written Gibbon one morning before inspection found his horse decked out in canvas leggings.

Whatever the engagement represented, one thing for sure is that these are beautiful little scuptures.
 
Ken and Richard are they any Exclusive Limited Edition of Zulu War Sets planned for the near future and not available only from Modelzone but direct from WBritain USA and will we see sneak peaks of them as you've provided for the Civil War Collectors.;););)....Joe
 
Ken, perhaps you could speak to the question of the setting or context of these nice looking sets for us.

Also, I wanted to ask if this Blue and Grey series will consist of sets all making part of one larger scene or will there be some moving around to different units and so on. While I am at it, I have the same question about the Union Brigade at Waterloo set coming out this Summer. I tend to like this concept an awful lot, i.e. really nice looking little sets contributing to a bigger scene over time.

MD
 
The Lt. said:
Ken and Richard are they any Exclusive Limited Edition of Zulu War Sets planned for the near future and not available only from Modelzone but direct from WBritain USA and will we see sneak peaks of them as you've provided for the Civil War Collectors.;););)....Joe
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Do you mean more like the Closing Stages of Isandlwana set, Joe?

I would love to see more like that one too.

The questions are piling up now Ken....:)

MD
 
Dragoon said:
Mike, I don't think there was time to put up '' hasty works '' at Brawner's Farm. The Stonewall Brigade came out of the woods onto the field and the Iron Brigade deployed from the road. I always had the impression it was a stand up firefight with no defencive works. While both brigades stood within yards from each other, I don't know if they ever ''crossed bayonets''.

Gibbon sure was a stickler for details, and the gaiters were quite unpopular.
Its been written Gibbon one morning before inspection found his horse decked out in canvas leggings.

Whatever the engagement is repersented one thing for sure is that these are beautiful little scuptures.
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I would agree that there were probably no hasty works built of stone at Brawner's Farm, however, the Confederates (Trimble's Brigade) encountered a rail fence that paralleled the Union line during their advance toward the 6th and 7th Wisconsin regmts. The 21st North Carolina tore it down and piled the rails into a baracade. Captain Willilam Oates of the 15th Alabama remembered that the rail fence offered little protection to his soldiers from the Wisconsin muskets. He noted that a few of his courageous Alabamians jumped over the hastily built fence barricade and tried to crawled toward the Union line. Both the 21st NC and the 21st Georgia was orderd to fix bayonets and on command they went over the barricade and charged the Iron Brigade - they got within 30 yards of the Federal line before they were ordered to withdraw because of the devastating point blank fire they were receiving.

For a very good read I would recommend "Brave Men's Tears; The Iron Brigade At Brawner's Farm" by Alan D. Gaff (Morningside 1988) ISBN O-89029-317-1. This is an in depth detailed account of this "slug fest" battle and a great account of the Iron Brigade's baptism of fire.

Mike
 
Mister Dave said:
Do you mean more like the Closing Stages of Isandlwana set, Joe?

I would love to see more like that one too.

The questions are piling up now Ken....:)

MD
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Yes along the same lines MD an hopefully two I put in a request for. Sorry guys don't mean to take anything away from what's be talked about on this thread and hopefully we'll get a reply over on the ZW thread.....The Lt.
 
So many nice sets have come out this year from all the manufacturers.It would cost a small fortune to keep up.
Mark
 
The Lt. said:
Yes along the same lines MD an hopefully two I put in a request for. Sorry guys don't mean to take anything away from what's be talked about on this thread and hopefully we'll get a reply over on the ZW thread.....The Lt.
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Hmmmm, yes this sounds intriguing Joe. Were your requests made public previously or is it top secret stuff?

Also, must apologize for hijacking this thread a bit....:eek:

MD
 
mestell said:
I would agree that there were probably no hasty works built of stone at Brawner's Farm, however, the Confederates (Trimble's Brigade) encountered a rail fence that paralleled the Union line during their advance toward the 6th and 7th Wisconsin regmts. The 21st North Carolina tore it down and piled the rails into a baracade. Captain Willilam Oates of the 15th Alabama remembered that the rail fence offered little protection to his soldiers from the Wisconsin muskets. He noted that a few of his courageous Alabamians jumped over the hastily built fence barricade and tried to crawled toward the Union line. Both the 21st NC and the 21st Georgia was orderd to fix bayonets and on command they went over the barricade and charged the Iron Brigade - they got within 30 yards of the Federal line before they were ordered to withdraw because of the devastating point blank fire they were receiving.

For a very good read I would recommend "Brave Men's Tears; The Iron Brigade At Brawner's Farm" by Alan D. Gaff (Morningside 1988) ISBN O-89029-317-1. This is an in depth detailed account of this "slug fest" battle and a great account of the Iron Brigade's baptism of fire.

Mike
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Thanks for the book recommendation. Sounds like a good read. You probably already know this one, but another good book on the Iron Brigade is ''The Iron Brigade'' by Alan Nolan. There's been several editions made of this book, each by a different publisher.
 
Dragoon said:
Thanks for the book recommendation. Sounds like a good read. You probably already know this one, but another good book on the Iron Brigade is ''The Iron Brigade'' by Alan Nolan. There's been several editions made of this book, each by a different publisher.
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I know the book well. My copy of it is placed next to my copy of "Brave Men's Tears". Any one that has an interest in the Iron Brigade's history should read these two wonderful books.
Mike
 
I must say, all this recent ACW fervor is certainly infectious. I have been considering all the upcoming options from various manufacturers and have decided to add these sets to my collection, so I am "on the list" so to speak. Really nice looking figures Ken and Dave. And I love the periodically released small vignettes adding up to a larger scene over time concept. :)

MD
 
I pre-ordered the first set..now i'm in full immersion in the works of art of artist like Don Troiani , Mort Kunstler and the new book by Keith Rocco (edited by Crimson Books and distributed by Osprey)..i'm re-reading the story of the Civil War (the Osprey 4 books of the Essential History series but plan to buy Battle Cry of Freedom) and i'm fascinated by the little units of the outset of the war..i hope we'll have someday some reproduction of the units that fought at First Manassas or in the Peninsula..personally i think to the Fire Zouaves,the various cadets..or one of my favourite unit (regarding their wonderful uniform) the Washington Artillery ..my praise to Ken..his figures transmit all the pathos of the soldiers that fought that terrible war..and there's a great amount of research behind (but obviously they are not alone in this , i'm stunned by the new FL and K&C products..) but i think that a reenactor and living historian as Ken is capable of transmitting something more to his figures..Ken what's your favourite Civil War book?
 
I recommend that you read Shelby Foote's three volume "Civil War". It's worth the effort and expense.
 
Thanks..when i consulted a few bibliographies his name was always present, unfortunately i haven't read anything from him ..by the way thanks for the suggestion!
 
Shelby Foote's work is the best source for an over all read of the ACW. It's been republished in paper back format. The blend of political and military material is outstanding.
 
Could the sets represent South Mountain? Fights look all uphill.Called IRON Brigade for the 1st time there as I recall.
Nice sets.
Don't forget Bruce Catton's trilogy on the army of the Potomac .
FubAR
 
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