February Dispatches (1 Viewer)

[fishead19690]

To be fair to K&C I doubt very much whether the British Coldstream Ensign would ever be facing the Russian on a battlefield. This type of pose is really about showing the flag and it's painted detail to the best degree.

Jeff

This same pose was also used in the hachette napoleon,s marshalls series K&C did. The general Cambronne figure looks just like the russian flag bearer just without the flag.

I,ll have to take a picture and put him along side the other two.
A lot of companies do this, they just convert the figures into other new figures from the old poses.
The whole frontline napoleonic line is pretty much done like this.
I,ve noticed this in a lot of figures.
Look at the conte WWII dead figure set and then look at there civil war dead figure set and you,ll notice that the figures are the same but they just converted them by changing the gear and clothing on the figures.
There basicly just converting figures they,ve already made into something new wich is easier and cheaper then doing new sculpts.

K&C has converted a lot of the del prado figures and released them as new K&C figures in the past.

 

[OzDigger]

The word is in from my 2 WWI Armor forums, that I belong to...I posted a photo there of the armor car and asked for opinions...No such car existed...Sorry,Michael

I don't collect WWI items but it seems a total waste of time and resources for K & C producing yet another model that never really existed.

 

[oberstoskar]

To be fair to K&C I doubt very much whether the British Coldstream Ensign would ever be facing the Russian on a battlefield. This type of pose is really about showing the flag and it's painted detail to the best degree.

Jeff

you're right. They must be cousins then. Coincidentally identical even they live miles apart in different cultures.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Anybody collect the Imperial China line? It's been quite a while since we've gotten a new set from this line and just wondered what people thought of the upcoming "Making Ready for Battle" set?
Harry?
I like to bring this (and Patriot's Ancient China) line to the Chicago show for something a little different.

Shannon,
I think this is an exciting series that could readily be expanded, but that's just me I guess.
I really like the look of the new IC release "Making Ready for Battle". With a bit of imagination and using a few other figures from the same range, I think it has potential for a nice little display. I reckon the opera king out of IC05 could be used to good effect with the new set - although I can't think of a use for his singing partner at the moment.
I've been thinking that some of the Patriot Han figures could be displayed with IC30 & IC31. Even though the timescale would appear to be all wrong, in a country like China, the same equipment was used over and again down the centuries. I've also wondered if the new EofI mounted archers could be used in a Western China scenario. Guess I'll just have to order some up from you and find out for myself....
Here is an extremely good book, full of useful info, that I would recommend to anyone with an interest in Chinese military history. Its also provided me with lots of ideas for displays, as well as some good scanned pictures to have framed and hang on the wall. Its available from Amazon.
Even though Missus H's knowledge of European history (and geography) is somewhat hazy, to say the least, her knowledge of the Chinese equivalents is encyclopedic and she's confirmed that this is an extremely accurate book.

Cheers
H

 

[Harrytheheid]

I think this is a problem we will see more and more - K&C production is so big now that figure poses are going to start overlapping unless some real imagination is used (like with the new WW1 German Armoured Car)
I suppose in the old days we were so grateful for a release we could overlook the same poses i.e figures holding maps, binoculars and MG's mounted on sandbags. Now with so much coming out you don't want all your figures doing roughly the same thing. Saying that the new BOB Yanks are really spot on and have persuaded me to start getting this series - IMO this is one of the best Infantry releases to date.
I still reckon Captain Pugwash would be a great hit in a Kriegsmarine unifrom along with the rest of the crew................ but for some reason I can't remember their names tonight!

Bad RD....Baaaad RD

 

[OldDragon]

...There basicly just converting figures they,ve already made into something new wich is easier and cheaper then doing new sculpts.

I really would like to know more about the process ... how "converting" an earlier release can be "cheaper" than doing new sculpts.

If by mere converting, the manufacturing process is indeed cheaper ... and helps the manufacturer present us with a wonderful looking figure at lower costs, then I am most sympathetic and supportive.

If on the other hand rehashing older poses ... was merely easier on the imagination, I am sure forum members will ever be willing to help with suggestions.

OD

 

[oberstoskar]

I really would like to know more about the process ... how "converting" an earlier release can be "cheaper" than doing new sculpts.

If the process is indeed cheaper ... and helps the manufacturer present us with a wonderful looking figure at lower costs, then I am most sympathetic and supportive.

If on the other hand rehashing older poses ... was merely easier on the imagination, I am sure forum members will ever be willing to help with suggestions.

OD

If it is indeed cheaper to reproduce poses then that's very very sad considering such steep increase in prices of the recent figures.

 

[OldDragon]

To be fair, I am pleasantly surprised that the new NAP Russian figures are priced the same as the French Guard figures released some 2 years ago.

I cant even remember how much the price of oil have increased in that period.

OD

 

[Harrytheheid]

To be fair, I am pleasantly surprised that the new NAP Russian figures are priced the same as the French Guard figures released some 2 years ago.

I cant even remember how much the price of oil have increased in that period.

OD

cant even remember how much the price of oil have increased in that period

A fair bit. Good for me, bad for just about everyone else.
Cheers
H

 

[oberstoskar]

To be fair, I am pleasantly surprised that the new NAP Russian figures are priced the same as the French Guard figures released some 2 years ago.

I cant even remember how much the price of oil have increased in that period.

OD

but the mounted officer costs $69 (see K&C's website). It's more expensive than any other mounted napoleonic figures in the past. And this guy is unique too. I really like his facial expression and ouch! So bloody expensive!

 

[Capitolron]

Correct me if I am wrong - but, $69 USD is the normal going rate for a mounted figure for K&C and has been for a while right?

 

[aujj65]

This same pose was also used in the hachette napoleon,s marshalls series K&C did. The general Cambronne figure looks just like the russian flag bearer just without the flag.

I,ll have to take a picture and put him along side the other two.
A lot of companies do this, they just convert the figures into other new figures from the old poses.
The whole frontline napoleonic line is pretty much done like this.
I,ve noticed this in a lot of figures.
Look at the conte WWII dead figure set and then look at there civil war dead figure set and you,ll notice that the figures are the same but they just converted them by changing the gear and clothing on the figures.
There basicly just converting figures they,ve already made into something new wich is easier and cheaper then doing new sculpts.

K&C has converted a lot of the del prado figures and released them as new K&C figures in the past.

I agree to a certain extent, but taking into account that the standing firing, kneeling receiving etc, etc, etc, are similar to the various British and French troops already released I can't see any alternative, after all there are only so many different poses that can be released in one batch. Perhaps there will be some extra poses released later this year.

What we should be doing is asking for some Prussians to complement both the Russians and the British.

Jeff

 

[aujj65]

I think its a fair price Ron - for a mounted figure with the sheer quality of sculpting and paintwork that the average K&C figure offers us.

The new Russians have superb quality sculpt and paint finish imho.

Jeff

 

[maddadicus]

Admittedly, some of the " points " about price and missing plumes, similar poses might be much, but at least Russians did exist ,in Napoleon's time and some Russians are better than no Russians...What I take umbrage with ,is that a few KC collectors consider pointing out that a vehicle was poorly researched and created out of the imagination of whoever, as a snipe...K/C might be the best, but they have a responsibilty to make things reasonably correct( 90% at least ) for the money that is required..To dismiss such fidelity to accuracy only allows a company to keep getting it wrong, because the foamers strug their shoulders and say but it is so pretty and my collection needs a fucia vehicle. GO ANDY, GO.... No one is a bigger armored car fan than I and I so wanted one ,with the K/C touch...It's not sniping, nitpicking etc. to say that maybe the next one will be closer to having been around...Michael

 

[Dragoon]

Sorry if some of you feel that pointing out the lack of plumes on the new 1812Russian Guard Infantry is nittpicking. To me it's a glaring error. The plumed shako shows the elite status of these troops as Guards and was worn with pride on campaign and in battle. It let the enemy know that they would now be confronting the Czar's best troops.

 

[jazzeum]

I don't believe these issues (the armored car and the plumes) are nitpicking and are issues that should be pointed out and hopefully explained.

 

[aujj65]

Sorry if some of you feel that pointing out the lack of plumes on the new 1812Russian Guard Infantry is nittpicking. To me it's a glaring error. The plumed shako shows the elite status of these troops as Guards and was worn with pride on campaign and in battle. It let the enemy know that they would now be confronting the Czar's best troops.

These 20mm figures have contrasting ideas regarding plumes as well.

Jeff

 

[Dragoon]

These 20mm figures have contrasting ideas regarding plumes as well.

Jeff

The top image is NOT of a Guard regiment. Note that the collars are plain and the shako does not have an eagle plate as seen on the KC figures.

 

[aujj65]

The top image is NOT of a Guard regiment. Note that the collars are plain and the shako does not have an eagle plate as seen on the KC figures.

Yes, so I see, it's easy to see similarities and perhaps confusion as to what is a Guard musketeer and a Grenadier of the line has caused some errors to appear? It will be interesting to see an official response.

Jeff

 

[Peter Reuss]

OK, boys...

Time for a deep breath and time to reflect at bit. We're getting testy!

You can disagree without thinking the other person is an idiot...

We've been down this road before...let's not end up attacking each other...