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I will probably buy the armor car because it looks good and this is all done for fun. What about personal preference for collecting LAH???
 
Vezzolf said:
Historically accurate or not the WW I armoured car does nothing for me........However I can think of many earlier K/C products that were merely representations IMO of WW II armour and one needed to use much immagination....That's why it's called "toy" soldiers......I would say that if historical accuracy is most desired,then 1:35 scale model building is the best way to go.....Although we would all like to keep a standard in regards to historical accuracy, I beleive K/C should be permitted "some" lattitude since they clearly do not market a 1:35 scale type product that can be kit-bashed as required to produce exactness.........That being said I think that K/C has improved the quality and accuracy of their products significantly of late......Thanks K/C ......Keep up the good work......
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You guys are kidding yourselves about the Toy Soldier tag, the K & C ranges are all expensive collectable military miniatures for adults interested in military subjects.

First we had the "Fuhrer's Last Fighter" that never was, many of which are gathering dust on dealers shelves, now it seems we have a fantasy armoured car.

I don't expect polystone models to equal plastic kits in detail, but I reckon collectors deserve actual subjects.
 
The fact that Dave has found that there was a manufacturer/designer named Eberhardt (in addition to the well known Ehrhardt), breathes new life into the possibility this is NOT fake. Given how many different variants of armored car existed, and the obscurity of the subject, I think we may be jumping the gun on calling its bluff here. K&C wanted an early war German armored car which meant it may have gone looking in some obscure places for info. I wish someone from K&C would step in and provide an official reference to back this up. Given how quick they have been to defend their products from the slightest criticism in the past, the silence about this so far on their end is deafening.
 
Looks like another cat fight devloping here for no reason to be honest. As long as it looks good who really cares and appeals to you as a collector? Half the 1/35th plastic manufacturers out there are now making German E100 and E25 tanks that never actually made it into production and they are selling by the bucket load!
I only buy what I like and I won't be buying the marching DAK figures because its just another set of Germans marching even though they are historically accurate.
Michael Eberhardt is also a science fiction writer so maybe Andy is having a joke on us after one too many vino's - maybe he's not?
Personally I think the figure with the AC looks good but once again its another German holding a map - I now have that many German figures holding maps I could have a nice dio of the Berliner Ordnance Survey map team at their annual spotter convention with spare figures for change!
I could have come up with something much more original but why give Andy all my good ides? However a couple did spring to mind that he might be interested in so here goes:

1. Penelope Pitstop in a pink Rolls Royce sporting Balkan crosses
2. Mutley the dog grinning stupidly whilst flying a Red Fokker Triplane
3. edited: inappropriate and the administrator is not amused.
4. The Airship from Lazy Town sporting a couple of machine gunners on Gondolas with 'Sporticus' zipping round on a little flying saucer trying to stop Mutley blowing him out of the sky.

I like the idea of the Ronald Mcdonald figures in Waterloo dress but might there be a copyright issue there? :)
 
Did I mention that the Napoleonics were great ? :D

I am very excited about the 2008 releases in this line - thats what we are talking about right? ;)
 
Pierre said:
And it seems that even the Russian figures are not accurate.
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Pierre,

I hope you don't mean the Napoleonic Russians? In what way are they inaccurate? It would be a shame if they are, so I will have to have a closer look at these then.

Regards

Jeff
 
I sometimes get the feeling that any K/C collector, who happens to be well read and well referenced as an historian / collector, ought to be quiet and not share their knowledge of what was and was not.. It was a number of past and present forum members, who convinced me that historical accuracy does matter. It is not about a misplaced rivet or a window that does not belong or molded crud in the tracks, but if this vehicle existed in the specific period of history, being modeled as advertised. As a historian/collector, I might be forgiving of misnamed unit patches, trouser type, even a wrong tank model for the weaponry shown etc.,but I cannot buy a vehicle that might not have been. I might as well throw my WW1 books away and quit the WW1 tank forums that I belong to. Attached is a badly photoshopped representation of where the K/C model might have come from..Ehrhardt turret, Lancaster rear end, Austin mid section with door, and exagerated front end. Rolls side tire placement....Thanks, Michael
 

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I sometimes get the feeling that any K/C collector, who happens to be well read and well referenced as an historian / collector, ought to be quiet and not share their knowledge of what was and was not.. It was a number of past and present forum members, who convinced me that historical accuracy does matter. It is not about a misplaced rivet or a window that does not belong or molded crud in the tracks, but if this vehicle existed in the specific period of history, being modeled as advertised. As a historian/collector, I might be forgiving of misnamed unit patches, trouser type, even a wrong tank model for the weaponry shown etc.,but I cannot buy a vehicle that might not have been. I might as well throw my WW1 books away and quit the WW1 tank forums that I belong to. Attached is a badly photoshopped representation of where the K/C model might have come from..Ehrhardt turret, Rolls Royce rear, Austin mid section with door, and exagerated front end. Rolls side tire placement....Thanks, Michael
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Michael,did you buy an armoured car from Toy army workshop?.If i remember rightly they did an excellant British armoured car.I collected a lot of their figures,guns and trucks but never got round to the Armoured car.However i understand they are trading again now so i may get another chance.

Rob
 
maddadicus said:
It was a number of past and present forum members, who convinced me that historical accuracy does matter.
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Without getting embroiled in the issues of this particular question, as a general matter I believe historical accuracy does matter and as collectors and purchasers of not inexpensive items, we need to point out if we see a problem or if something is not factually correct. It is then up to the individual collector, once armed with the facts, to decide whether he or she wants to purchase that item. As consumers we would demand this in other areas and I see no reason why this is any different.
 
Rob said:
Michael,did you buy an armoured car from Toy army workshop?.If i remember rightly they did an excellant British armoured car.I collected a lot of their figures,guns and trucks but never got round to the Armoured car.However i understand they are trading again now so i may get another chance.

Rob
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Yes I did..Was lucky, because the seller did not list it as so, and I won it at a fair price. Also have an Austin with double turret from an unknown mfg...might be an early Steadfast...Note how similar some of these features are with the K.C. model...Michael
 

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aujj65 said:
Pierre,

I hope you don't mean the Napoleonic Russians? In what way are they inaccurate? It would be a shame if they are, so I will have to have a closer look at these then.

Regards

Jeff
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Hi Jeff-

I sent you a PM.

Amitiés,
Pierre.
 
aujj65 said:
Pierre,

I hope you don't mean the Napoleonic Russians? In what way are they inaccurate? It would be a shame if they are, so I will have to have a closer look at these then.

Regards

Jeff
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All Russian Guard Infantry in 1812 wore a "grenadier" plume on their shakos. The Russian Army was somewhat unique in that time period for wearing all shako ornaments; cords, plumes, plates etc. on campaign as well as parade.

The Guard Foot Artillery without plumes is correct but the shako plate should not be crossed cannons. It should be the Imperial Eagle like that on the Guard Infantry figures. Also the standing artillery officer's shako cords should be silver instead of red.

This info can be found in Ospreys Men at Arms #185 Russian Army of the Napoleonic Wars, Pg. 22 caption under picture and at the bottom of pg. 36 first column. Also see the color plates in Histoire & Collections book "Borodino,The Moskvova-Battle of the Redoubts" by F.G. Hourtoulle ( See pg. 16-17 ). This is one of a great series of books on Napoleonic battles and the uniforms worn at them by this author. They are easily aquired thru Amazon.com
 
maddadicus said:
Yes I did..Was lucky, because the seller did not list it as so, and I won it at a fair price. Also have an Austin with double turret from an unknown mfg...might be an early Steadfast...Note how similar some of these features are with the K.C. model...Michael
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Yes i see what you mean.Very nice pics.TAW also made a very nice Whippet Tank.

Rob
 
Canadian Samurai said:
... Given how quick they have been to defend their products from the slightest criticism in the past, the silence about this so far on their end is deafening.
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As mentioned by Brad on a different thread, Chinese New Year has started in Hong Kong so there is an explanation for the silence. Typically, businesses close at noon on Chinese New Year's Eve and open three to seven days into the new year.:)
 
Good point, I was just thinking about that. We'll have to wait for more official info I guess. :) In the meantime, our research continues - I know a source proving this existed is out there, somewhere!
 
OzDigger said:
You guys are kidding yourselves about the Toy Soldier tag, the K & C ranges are all expensive collectable military miniatures for adults interested in military subjects.

First we had the "Fuhrer's Last Fighter" that never was, many of which are gathering dust on dealers shelves, now it seems we have a fantasy armoured car.

I don't expect polystone models to equal plastic kits in detail, but I reckon collectors deserve actual subjects.
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I agree Oz completely that we should not have fantasy armoured vehicles that never existed......They should be all based on historical factual armour.....Lack of details and accuracy of K/C's polystone in past releases however left much to be desired in the area of realism......All I am saying is that they have improved their accuracy of many products recently......
 
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