Figarti Tanks (2 Viewers)

[Phantom Warrior]

Pat and Kingtoot,

Thanks. Yes, that is an amazing tank. And, the treads move. I think it has something like 800 parts, which is why I don't think Figarti would want to make something like that again; it's just too expensive to make.

I have the exact same tank, but with the figures. I am so glad I got one because I too think we will not see one with an interior any time soon due to the cost.

Terry

 

[Rob]

Ok Harry clear the air time.(its a shame your posts are delayed as it takes so bloody long to get a conversation going!).

First off when i said 'Figarti are right up their with the best' this did not mean i was saying 'They are good but K&C are better'(which i'm guessing you thought i did).I meant exactly what i said in that phrase in the way it is normally used .'Right up their with the best' in my view was a compliment.Because you have used the Hypnotize tag before i'm also guessing you did indeed mean i was Hypnotised by K&C in some way.Sorry but this is pretty insulting H and i felt pretty out of order.

As for the Tanks themselves we will have to disagree.The Honey is indeed a lovely vehicle and a boon to any collection,however in MY OPINION it has been bettered by K&C.However, the Grant Tank Figarti produced and the Cambrai version i am picking up on Saturday are in their turn better than some K&C vehicles.Its not so clear cut (again in my view)to say one company is better than the other,its much closer than that.Now i understand you have issues with K&C and this is your absolute right which no one can take away from you.But if you don't mind me saying i have found your recent posts re K&C so strong (i didn't want to use the term 'agressive') i feel it destroys the will to discuss things.

My closing point is this Harry,K&C fans have for ages been described as shouting down or not permitting discussion about certain products.By jumping the gun with my with my 'Up there with the best' comment that is just what you have done,and i feel that as K&C fans get pulled up about this so should anyone else who does it.I put all this to you in a calm and considered manner as i have no wish for heated exchanges with anyone,i love this hobby and have no desire to fall out with anyone including your good self Harry.

Regards

Rob

 

[Spitfrnd]

Figarti indeed makes great vehicles. I have two of their Honey, the Monty Grant and the Tiger Tank. Now, my Tiger is a little unique. I didn't like the figures so Rick made a special one for me (without figures) and Rick's father, James Wang, delivered it to me. It's number one in the series. For those who haven't seen the inside of this tank, here are some photos. I don't think a finer tank has ever been made and considering the amount of work that went into and what it costs to make, I don't think another will be either.

That is an amazing Tank model to me. Fortunately for my budget, I do not collect WWII vehicles but if I did that would have to be a must have; I know I am shocked and awed by it. I add my congratulations on what is indeed a stunning collection piece.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Ok clear the air time.(its a shame your posts are delayed as it takes so bloody long to get a conversation going!).

First off when i said 'Figarti are right up their with the best' this did not mean i was saying 'They are good but K&C are better'(which i'm guessing you thought i did).I meant exactly what i said in that phrase in the way it is normally used .'Right up their with the best' in my view was a compliment.Because you have used the Hypnotize tag before i'm also guessing you did indeed mean i was Hypnotised by K&C in some way.Sorry but this is pretty insulting H and i felt pretty out of order.

As for the Tanks themselves we will have to disagree.The Honey is indeed a lovely vehicle and a boon to any collection,however in MY OPINION it has been bettered by K&C.However the Grant Tank Figarti produced and the Cambrai version i am picking up on Saturday are in their turn better than some K&C vehicles.Its not so clear cut (again in my view)to say one company is better than the other,its much closer than that.Now i understand you have issues with K&C and this is your absolute right which no one can take away from you.But if you don't mind me saying i have found your recent posts re K&C so strong (i didn't want to use the term 'agressive') i feel it destroys the will to discuss things.

My closing point is this Harry,K&C fans have for ages been described as shouting down or not permitting discussion about certain products.By jumping the gun with my with my 'Up there with the best' comment that is just what you have done,and i feel that as K&C fans get pulled up about this so should anyone else who does it.

Regards

Rob

I must agree regarding the quality of the various manufacturers tanks, which has changed (improved) over time. I collect mostly K&C because that is mostly what was available when I started and because I like them. I also have a good number of Figarti and Honour Bound, and recently a few pieces of CS to fill in what other manufacturers have not produced. I think the quality of K&C WW2 armour has improved the most as HB and Figarti started at an elevated level and K&C has worked to catch up.

Also I buy what I like. I am not a hypnotized supporter of K&C or a harsh critic. I get no fees or special treatment for vocally supporting any manufacturer. My comments about manufacturers/specific pieces are both positive and negative. I call them as I see them.

I concentrate mainly on WW2 armour, but have never slagged anyones' choice of what to collect or or suggested not producing something so I can get what I want. When I would like a particular piece to be produced, I ask for it, often frequently.

Nor am I a rabid supporter of any manufacturer, product range or time period.

I greatly enjoy this forum and do not wish to get into any heated debates with anyone - there is nothing to be won.

Terry

 

[jazzeum]

Thanks Bill. The piece is still actually available. I know Treefrog still lists it in stock and I see people selling it on ebay from time to time.

 

[Spitfrnd]

Thanks Bill. The piece is still actually available. I know Treefrog still lists it in stock and I see people selling it on ebay from time to time.

Oops, I am not sure I wanted to know that. It is indeed tempting; there are just too many tempting choices it seems. Now that is a silly thing to complain about.

 

[jazzeum]

Yes, there are too many tempting choices out there, that's for sure, sigh...

 

[OzDigger]

Ok Harry clear the air time.(its a shame your posts are delayed as it takes so bloody long to get a conversation going!).

First off when i said 'Figarti are right up their with the best' this did not mean i was saying 'They are good but K&C are better'(which i'm guessing you thought i did).I meant exactly what i said in that phrase in the way it is normally used .'Right up their with the best' in my view was a compliment.Because you have used the Hypnotize tag before i'm also guessing you did indeed mean i was Hypnotised by K&C in some way.Sorry but this is pretty insulting H and i felt pretty out of order.

As for the Tanks themselves we will have to disagree.The Honey is indeed a lovely vehicle and a boon to any collection,however in MY OPINION it has been bettered by K&C.However, the Grant Tank Figarti produced and the Cambrai version i am picking up on Saturday are in their turn better than some K&C vehicles.Its not so clear cut (again in my view)to say one company is better than the other,its much closer than that.Now i understand you have issues with K&C and this is your absolute right which no one can take away from you.But if you don't mind me saying i have found your recent posts re K&C so strong (i didn't want to use the term 'agressive') i feel it destroys the will to discuss things.

My closing point is this Harry,K&C fans have for ages been described as shouting down or not permitting discussion about certain products.By jumping the gun with my with my 'Up there with the best' comment that is just what you have done,and i feel that as K&C fans get pulled up about this so should anyone else who does it.I put all this to you in a calm and considered manner as i have no wish for heated exchanges with anyone,i love this hobby and have no desire to fall out with anyone including your good self Harry.

Regards

Rob

Rob, an excellent post mate, and be assured you have plenty of support for your passion and your integrity.

 

[Harrytheheid]

Thanks Bill. The piece is still actually available. I know Treefrog still lists it in stock and I see people selling it on ebay from time to time.

The Figarti Tiger is without a doubt a spectacular scale model. If I didn't have 3 x Tigers in my collection already then I'd certainly buy it.
Thing is, it just proves my point. At the present moment and IMO, Figarti are making the best AFV's available.

Rgds
Harry

 

[Harrytheheid]

For anyone who's really interested, myself and Rob have been having an exchange of viewpoints. Nothing wrong with that, especially as the exchange, although robust, has not degenerated into anarchy due to the vigilance of our Forum Moderators. I look forward to your impressions of the Figarti AFV you're obtaining on Saturday Rob, if tinged with a little touch of jealousy cos I'm not getting my one for another 3 weeks or so.
....
I might just decide to buy that K&C FoB French M/C Combination after all. The more I look, the better it gets. If I do buy it, then I'll certainly provide my honest opinion on this forum.
Now, please excuse me as I have a couple of PM's to respond to.

Thank You

Harry

 

[Phantom Warrior]

The Figarti Tiger is without a doubt a spectacular scale model. If I didn't have 3 x Tigers in my collection already then I'd certainly buy it.
Thing is, it just proves my point. At the present moment and IMO, Figarti are making the best AFV's available.

Rgds
Harry

I used the same logic but even though I too have 3 tigers (Winter, Whittmann and Tunisian), I still had to get one of the Figarti's. Once they are gone, we may not see anything like them at any kind of reasonable price for a very long time and I know I would regret having missed it.

Terry

 

[Jagdpanther]

I assume this is the Figarti Tiger you guys are talking about

And this is 1:32 scale?

 

[Panzer ace]

Yes Figarti are making Afrika Korp figures - and the reason why I presently have the Figarti DAK figures on order is because, in my opinion, they're the best Afrika Korp figures available at the moment.



Yes Figarti/Hobbybunker did have the gonads to do Pacific sets, which is why they are also on order.

There are in fact toy soldiers in our house that depict Nazi's on parade. They were obtained, along with some SOHK figures, at the time I was introducing my wife to our wonderful hobby. A successful mission as it happens. However, even she got sick of seeing the Nazi's glorified in this way and they remain boxed up until she finds someone locally who'll give them a good home.

Mind you, I've never shown her the alpine "Doll's House" with the Aryan Supermen waiters and Uncle Adolf with his cowering pooch. She might just want me to buy it for her 8-year old neice to play with.


The entire concept of venerating the Nazi's by depicting Uncle Adolf on holiday is very, very, strange indeed.

Regards
Harry

This is a great post, I have really enjoyed reading it.

I have spoken many times with KV about different products and at the end of the day I agree with him. Most companies, one way or another, make great items, and they all have their merits. The same goes for different lines as well. For example, no matter who the manufacturer or the piece, I do not collect any Pacific themed WW II items because I simply have no interest in it. On the other hand I do not have anything against those who do collect it.

Also, although people do not like it, the fact is the Nazi stuff sells. You can obviously choose not to buy it and you can rail against those who do, but at the end of the day, no matter what anyone else thinks I am still going to buy it.

And Harry if you can't find a local home for your Nazis please let me know. I will be more than happy to give them a very nice home.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I assume this is the Figarti Tiger you guys are talking about

And this is 1:32 scale?

That is the tank we are talking about, and Figarti says it is 1/32 scale. It is a touch smaller than the earlier K&C Whittmann Last Tiger and Winter Tiger which are a "small 1/30 scale" and much smaller than the K&C Tunisian Tiger at a "full 1/30 scale. The most obvious size difference between the Figarti and Whittmann tigers is the main gun.

Terry

 

[Njja]

Nice comparison.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Nice comparison.

Actually it was Jazzeum who noticed the small size difference between the Figarti and the Whittmann. I thought they were virtually the same until his comment. Once I put my glasses on and started taking photos, I became more aware of the differences.

Terry

 

[Njja]

Its always nice when someone takes the time to post photographs from his collection. It is often a great opportunity for other collectors to make decisions on items they might like to add also.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Its always nice when someone takes the time to post photographs from his collection. It is often a great opportunity for other collectors to make decisions on items they might like to add also.

Well, I have been helped out several times that way on making purchase decisions so I am only too pleased to help. The downside of joining this Forum is that all of this help has encouraged me to buy quite a few more pieces than I originally intended to the point where I have to make "not buy", "not buy yet" and "not buy until I get ..." decisions. These are difficult to make as so many good pieces have come out recently with more announced for the near future.

Terry

 

[Njja]

Yes that is our situation today. In the past the releases were very slow so many collectors often had nothing to buy. I remember going to my dealer and finally buying things I had past over because that was all that was available.

Today you have to make a choice so you can figure out how to fit what you would like to buy into your budget.

In the long run its nicer today.

 

[Jagdpanther]

Thanks for posting those pics Terry that helps alot. It is a nice Tiger indeed.