I certainly agree with you mate with my off noted caveat that there are some cavalry figures from K&C that do fit pretty well with FL. That said, I do agree that FL figures are intended for and do deliver consistancy within the line and the comprehensiveness of thier releases obviates the need to suppliment them from outside sources.
I am not sure what literature you are referencing but it is not the most current for quite a long while now. I would take a look at the scale discussion page on the FL website which notes:
I am not sure what literature you are referencing but it is not the most current for quite a long while now. I would take a look at the scale discussion page on the FL website which notes:
First Legion's 54mm Napoleon's Europe toy soldiers are marketed or branded as "54mm", though in fact they are a bit larger than this or true "1/30th" scale. We previously had a long text description discussing the size, however, as a picture is worth a thousand words we've removed that and replaced it with this image showing the figures next to a tape measure. As can be seen, they are clearly taller than 54mm, with an average height of about 58mm sole to eye or 60mm from the sole to the tops of the heads. Note, the measurement is taken from the top of the figure base.
There is much confusion and inconsistency in measuring scale and figures but as I have noted in too many scale posts and examples here, they measure on average, 58 to 60mm sole to head, which translates into 1/30 scale at an average person height of 5ft, 9-10". It is not their fault that some other manufacturers have labeled their figures at smaller scale than they really are. Thus whether you buy them or not is your choice but the failure to describe their scale corrrectly seems hardly a fair one. In any event, the correction is to either see and compare them at a show or buy one to compare yourself. I did that with several companies when I first started and you can just sell off the ones you do not pursue.
I am not sure what literature you are referencing but it is not the most current for quite a long while now. I would take a look at the scale discussion page on the FL website which notes:
First Legion's 54mm Napoleon's Europe toy soldiers are marketed or branded as "54mm", though in fact they are a bit larger than this or true "1/30th" scale. We previously had a long text description discussing the size, however, as a picture is worth a thousand words we've removed that and replaced it with this image showing the figures next to a tape measure. As can be seen, they are clearly taller than 54mm, with an average height of about 58mm sole to eye or 60mm from the sole to the tops of the heads. Note, the measurement is taken from the top of the figure base.
There is much confusion and inconsistency in measuring scale and figures but as I have noted in too many scale posts and examples here, they measure on average, 58 to 60mm sole to head, which translates into 1/30 scale at an average person height of 5ft, 9-10". It is not their fault that some other manufacturers have labeled their figures at smaller scale than they really are. Thus whether you buy them or not is your choice but the failure to describe their scale corrrectly seems hardly a fair one. In any event, the correction is to either see and compare them at a show or buy one to compare yourself. I did that with several companies when I first started and you can just sell off the ones you do not pursue.
Would save a lot of time , as it seems some new posters have not read these discussions the first or second ect..time that they have been brought up. Its also on the FL web site and not that hard to find . G
The recent FL, K&C, Figarti and HB armour are all 1:30 scale and also are the same size - no variance by manufacturer. The figures do show a lot of variation. Here is a link to 4 photos of my British Empire collection which has figures from several manufacturers, and you can see for yourself the variation in size and style, but IMO they still look good on a shelf together as a collection.
http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22503
Terry
I certainly understand your concern and if I had a large collection of other figures for a given period that is something that would give me something to consider. Somewhere here, I have posted some side by side Napoleonic pictures for K&C, Britains, CS and FL but I have been told the WWII lines of the some of these manufactuers are somewhat differently sized. Because of size and style, I haven't mixed any K&C foot Napoleonics side by side with FL but have done it with some of their relatively smalller cavalry. Britains and FL figures are nearly identical in size and I have mixed in a number of those here and there. Putting aside style, I think you can also mix K&C and FL foot figures if you keep them in discrete groups, like K&C Brits facing FL French, with some space between. CS figures are a different size than any of the above and sorta mix with either from my experience.
....The Panzer III is quite possibly the best version of this tank ever produced.....and it definitely 1:30 scale
Mitch, Once you try First Legion Stalingrad you will not be so concerned about the scale of other manufacturers....You will love this product; these WWII soldiers are incredibly realistic....1:30 scale or not or whatever.....Nothing even comes close to FL for diorama buffs.....Just give them a try
I've never been a crewman before but I would think that the ammo for this gun would be stowed safely inside with the rest of the Ammunition until needed . If the crewman figure was posed in a firing position then I would be right with ya saying Matt were is the ammo , But I don't think that is the case . About the figure I guess that's a matter of taste some will like it some won't . I think he is accurately rendered right down to the most beloved Toque ... but to each his own Happy collecting Gebhard