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I have a question for the experts:
Why an WWI 1917 plane has the Swastika painted...?^&confuse
I have a question for the experts:
Why an WWI 1917 plane has the Swastika painted...?^&confuse
As Amhuff1 says, it is a good luck sign from way back in history. Several flyers in WW1 used it, such as Werner Voss on his Albatros, as you noticed. French/American ace Raoul Lufbery used it on his Spad and Walter Gottsch of Jasta 19 used it on his Fokker tripe, as did Eberhardt Mohnicke of Jasta 11 on his tripe. It was not an uncommon insignia, on either side. -- AlI have a question for the experts:
Why an WWI 1917 plane has the Swastika painted...?^&confuse
You will find it in the pictures in post #60 and #61. The swastika is on the middle one of the three Albatros. It is in white on the side of the tan colored fuselage. This is the Voss Albatros. The symbol is surrounded by a green laurel wreath, a later addition to the decoration. -- AlWhere?
The swastika was seen as a symbol of good luck and success before the Nazis used it.
I am most certain the soviet tank is from an early K&C release going back to around
1999 or earlier.
Just excellent pictures. Details such as the windscreen are great. Also I see that the rudders are the rounder edge shape of the OAW (Ostdeutsche Albatros Werke), an exclusive ID feature in terms of who made the D-3. The wing radiator is offset to the right, which along with the rudder shape, ID these as later make D-3's. The early D-3's had straight edge rudders and the radiator was located in the center of the wing. I know, who cares. These planes are fantastic looking. -- AlThe lighting was very challenging too in all of the rooms but here are some more pictures.
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Since posting this I have discovered that the swastika was more common than I thought as a marking in WW1. I have found further photo evidence of at least 4 more pilots, including Lothar Wieland of Seefrontstaffel 1, and Herman Kunz of Jasta 7, and Paul Billik of Jasta 12, using it as a personal marking. The topper, though, is that a whole Jasta, #23, used it as a unit marking in the summer of 1917, until it was changed in August that year. Still working on Allied use. -- AlAs Amhuff1 says, it is a good luck sign from way back in history. Several flyers in WW1 used it, such as Werner Voss on his Albatros, as you noticed. French/American ace Raoul Lufbery used it on his Spad and Walter Gottsch of Jasta 19 used it on his Fokker tripe, as did Eberhardt Mohnicke of Jasta 11 on his tripe. It was not an uncommon insignia, on either side. -- Al