King & Country Dispatches -- July 2018 (1 Viewer)

The captive and tortured cavalry man is really over the top! Not in a good way but I guess there are some collectors with a sadistic bent.
Makes me sick to think how these captors were tortured to death.
 
The VN figures look fantastic! I don't collect this era but they really just jump out of the photos. The poses are great.

Question for Andy: Will there be more realistic IDF female soldiers along the lines of the first one you made (IDF007)?

Thanks,

Joe
 
nysoldiers said:
The captive and tortured cavalry man is really over the top! Not in a good way but I guess there are some collectors with a sadistic bent.
Makes me sick to think how these captors were tortured to death.
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True, but lets not forget the slaughter of Native American's either by the invading Europeans and the loss of their homes and land.
 
nysoldiers said:
Hoping the 67 Israeli-Arab War isn't fizzling out. A Syrian/Egyptian T-54/55 and Israeli Centurion would round out this series.
The Jousting Knights are attractive but more Crusaders and Saracens would be welcome as well.
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Hi NY,
I certainly don't think the Arab/Israeli War series Is 'fizzling-out'!!!

We've already introduced 3x 'iconic' Israeli in less than 12 months plus a whole raft of Israeli Paras and some Egyptian/Syrian infantry and some other figures...And we have plenty of plans going forward...Hardly 'fizzling-out' my friend.

Ask yourself this...How many other toy soldier companies produce as many or as varied a selection of differing items every single month...month after month after month...come rain or shine..?
Best wishes and happy collecting,
Andy.
 
joesgis said:
Question for Andy: Will there be more realistic IDF female soldiers along the lines of the first one you made (IDF007)?
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Good question …… I think the current female IDF soldier should be reassigned to a new range of scantily dressed 'ladies', all fictional, such as the 3 Napoleonic 'camp followers' and Milady de Winter from Pike and Musket.

John
 
Obee said:
Good question …… I think the current female IDF soldier should be reassigned to a new range of scantily dressed 'ladies', all fictional, such as the 3 Napoleonic 'camp followers' and Milady de Winter from Pike and Musket.

John
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Thanks for your thoughts John...Reckon I will just keep them where they are...
Best wishes,
Andy.
 
King & Country said:
Hi NY,
I certainly don't think the Arab/Israeli War series Is 'fizzling-out'!!!

We've already introduced 3x 'iconic' Israeli in less than 12 months plus a whole raft of Israeli Paras and some Egyptian/Syrian infantry and some other figures...And we have plenty of plans going forward...Hardly 'fizzling-out' my friend.

Ask yourself this...How many other toy soldier companies produce as many or as varied a selection of differing items every single month...month after month after month...come rain or shine..?
Best wishes and happy collecting,
Andy.
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Good news!
 
King & Country said:
Hi NY,
I certainly don't think the Arab/Israeli War series Is 'fizzling-out'!!!

We've already introduced 3x 'iconic' Israeli in less than 12 months plus a whole raft of Israeli Paras and some Egyptian/Syrian infantry and some other figures...And we have plenty of plans going forward...Hardly 'fizzling-out' my friend.

Ask yourself this...How many other toy soldier companies produce as many or as varied a selection of differing items every single month...month after month after month...come rain or shine..?
Best wishes and happy collecting,
Andy.
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I only collect pre-1914 K&C (RTA, CR, IC, AG, PNM). For me, it has been awhile since a big release expanded my collections (where are those Alamo Mexicans in summer white uniforms?!). But look at that list. Five different periods that I have been able to collect great figures for, thanks to K&C. And I am definitely pondering the John Ford Cavalry line. I can understand how someone with just one line might get impatient, but the company must produce #1 what sells best, then #2 what is realistic in the market, and then #3 what can be cost effectively fit into the design/production cycle to fill out spaces in the older lines. It can be a bit frustrating, but I believe K&C does its best to balance its viable choices.

I consider all of the lines I collect to be currently viable, even if nothing more is added (but please don't do that!). Thanks Andy for all the fantastic figures.
 
Gribeauval said:
I only collect pre-1914 K&C (RTA, CR, IC, AG, PNM). For me, it has been awhile since a big release expanded my collections (where are those Alamo Mexicans in summer white uniforms?!). But look at that list. Five different periods that I have been able to collect great figures for, thanks to K&C. And I am definitely pondering the John Ford Cavalry line. I can understand how someone with just one line might get impatient, but the company must produce #1 what sells best, then #2 what is realistic in the market, and then #3 what can be cost effectively fit into the design/production cycle to fill out spaces in the older lines. It can be a bit frustrating, but I believe K&C does its best to balance its viable choices.

I consider all of the lines I collect to be currently viable, even if nothing more is added (but please don't do that!). Thanks Andy for all the fantastic figures.
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I certainly wasn't being critical of K&C I know all the reasons and attributes of the company that I have collected since their inception. Just expressing healthy impatience for something I love collecting and wondering if the series is as popular as Andy thought it would be. I don't live for toy soldiers but they certainly make life more fun.
 
nysoldiers said:
The captive and tortured cavalry man is really over the top! Not in a good way but I guess there are some collectors with a sadistic bent.
Makes me sick to think how these captors were tortured to death.
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How does it make you feel about the genocide of the Americas First Nations? To the tribes these cavalrymen would have been seen as invaders and committing genocide and forced movement from the Tribes lands. The whole series is what could be over the top! But then again you could say the same about many TS series.

However, I would not buy, as not really my interest, same as the WW2 SS interrogation set.
 
nysoldiers said:
The captive and tortured cavalry man is really over the top! Not in a good way but I guess there are some collectors with a sadistic bent.
Makes me sick to think how these captors were tortured to death.
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Hi Guys,
Appreciate all your views on this and other points...however, speaking personally, what is considered 'over the top' varies considerably from collector to collector...

Our recently released captured cavalryman is actually based on one of my favourite 'western' paintings by the French-born artist Henry Farny...We altered the painting by substituting an Apache 'captor' instead of the original 'Plains' Indian... Apaches were notoriously well-known for their cruelty to captives, not surprising considering the many cruelties inflicted on them by 'invading' (as they saw it) Anglo Americans and Mexicans!

Although toy soldiers are our 'playthings' I've always believed that a degree of realism and authenticity can be tolerated from time to time as well as a similar or occasional degree of 'whimsy' (Napoleonic or Roman 'Camp' followers for example).

So, I have come to expect that someone, somewhere, some times, may not share my decision to produce this, that or the next thing...Totally understandable...And that's the pure joy of collecting...
Buy what you like...Ignore what you don't!

All the best and happy collecting!
Andy.
 
King & Country said:
Hi Guys,
Appreciate all your views on this and other points...however, speaking personally, what is considered 'over the top' varies considerably from collector to collector...

Our recently released captured cavalryman is actually based on one of my favourite 'western' paintings by the French-born artist Henry Farny...We altered the painting by substituting an Apache 'captor' instead of the original 'Plains' Indian... Apaches were notoriously well-known for their cruelty to captives, not surprising considering the many cruelties inflicted on them by 'invading' (as they saw it) Anglo Americans and Mexicans!

Although toy soldiers are our 'playthings' I've always believed that a degree of realism and authenticity can be tolerated from time to time as well as a similar or occasional degree of 'whimsy' (Napoleonic or Roman 'Camp' followers for example).

So, I have come to expect that someone, somewhere, some times, may not share my decision to produce this, that or the next thing...Totally understandable...And that's the pure joy of collecting...
Buy what you like...Ignore what you don't!

All the best and happy collecting!
Andy.
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Less is more sometimes
 
King & Country said:
Hi Guys,
Appreciate all your views on this and other points...however, speaking personally, what is considered 'over the top' varies considerably from collector to collector...

Our recently released captured cavalryman is actually based on one of my favourite 'western' paintings by the French-born artist Henry Farny...We altered the painting by substituting an Apache 'captor' instead of the original 'Plains' Indian... Apaches were notoriously well-known for their cruelty to captives, not surprising considering the many cruelties inflicted on them by 'invading' (as they saw it) Anglo Americans and Mexicans!

Although toy soldiers are our 'playthings' I've always believed that a degree of realism and authenticity can be tolerated from time to time as well as a similar or occasional degree of 'whimsy' (Napoleonic or Roman 'Camp' followers for example).

So, I have come to expect that someone, somewhere, some times, may not share my decision to produce this, that or the next thing...Totally understandable...And that's the pure joy of collecting...
Buy what you like...Ignore what you don't!

All the best and happy collecting!
Andy.
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to me....
they are just toy soldiers...
I ordered them...
 
King & Country said:
Hi Guys,
Appreciate all your views on this and other points...however, speaking personally, what is considered 'over the top' varies considerably from collector to collector...

Our recently released captured cavalryman is actually based on one of my favourite 'western' paintings by the French-born artist Henry Farny...We altered the painting by substituting an Apache 'captor' instead of the original 'Plains' Indian... Apaches were notoriously well-known for their cruelty to captives, not surprising considering the many cruelties inflicted on them by 'invading' (as they saw it) Anglo Americans and Mexicans!

Although toy soldiers are our 'playthings' I've always believed that a degree of realism and authenticity can be tolerated from time to time as well as a similar or occasional degree of 'whimsy' (Napoleonic or Roman 'Camp' followers for example).

So, I have come to expect that someone, somewhere, some times, may not share my decision to produce this, that or the next thing...Totally understandable...And that's the pure joy of collecting...
Buy what you like...Ignore what you don't!

All the best and happy collecting!
Andy.
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I really don't believe that Mr Nelson or any manufacturer has to apologise for the poses or the subjects his chooses for his figures. Last month T. Gunn launched a captive ready to be decapitated by his captor. Is this over the top or too much ? Just realistic figures and something that happened million of times. We must not forget that we, the collectors , ask for realism. We all know the photo of a Japanese officer ready to cut if the head of an Australian (I think) prisoner. If Mr Nelson decides to make this as part of his FoB series, would this be over the top and must explain or apologise once more or it would be just stunning? I don't know. I just collect and I don't criticise.
All the best
Thanasis
 
thanasis67 said:
I really don't believe that Mr Nelson or any manufacturer has to apologise for the poses or the subjects his chooses for his figures. Last month T. Gunn launched a captive ready to be decapitated by his captor. Is this over the top or too much ? Just realistic figures and something that happened million of times. We must not forget that we, the collectors , ask for realism. We all know the photo of a Japanese officer ready to cut if the head of an Australian (I think) prisoner. If Mr Nelson decides to make this as part of his FoB series, would this be over the top and must explain or apologise once more or it would be just stunning? I don't know. I just collect and I don't criticise.
All the best
Thanasis
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Sorry! I meant "Neilson" . My very smart phone's initiatives during typing!
 
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