King&Country Repaints.....A Good or A Bad Idea (2 Viewers)

[Guy]

nice work Harrie. I love the Sherman with wading equipment .I did the same with the FOV Sherman
guy

 

[Guy]

nice work Harrie. I love the Sherman with wading equipment .I did the same with the FOV Sherman
guy

Sorry Harrie, forgot to add my pic
guy

 

[Mitch]

Harrie/guy..

Lovely work. I am working on some newspaper sellers at the moment. couple of pics of the Superb Tunisian tiger and the three variants I redone for myself GD grey wittmanns winter ride and, the famous Tiki (well, you can't see Tiki much still can't take pictures though!!) and, the Konigstiger which had a full set of zimmerit applied, skirts removed etc before repainting and remarking up. another great Tiger to work from from K&C.
Mitch

 

[OzDigger]

here's one of my last rebuild and repaints.
a Dutch supporter of the N.S.B, newspaper seller

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Harrie

Harrie, your newspaper conversion is a great idea.

 

[Jürgen_Keuppe]

A collector pays top dollar when the piece is pristine/mint and original. So, if one is hoping to sell and fetch a good price, don't repaint it. On the other hand, if selling for profit is not the motivating factor, then by all means, have it painted to suit your fancy. Watch Pawn Stars and you'll see how the price plummets if an item has been restored or touched up in any way, e.g. antique guns, cars, etc.

 

[Mitch]

Still not so sure. I have seen many sets from K&C go for very little on e-bay in the last 6 months I have been on. It would be an interesting experiment to have two sets One in the so called mint condition and, a second repainted version to be placed on at the same time. I know its not really sound in terms of methodology for many reasons. it would be interesting all the same.

You certainly would not have to get a lot of money for a repaint to beat some of the costs I have seen some of the sets go for.
Mitch

A collector pays top dollar when the piece is pristine/mint and original. So, if one is hoping to sell and fetch a good price, don't repaint it. On the other hand, if selling for profit is not the motivating factor, then by all means, have it painted to suit your fancy. Watch Pawn Stars and you'll see how the price plummets if an item has been restored or touched up in any way, e.g. antique guns, cars, etc.

 

[Rob]

A collector pays top dollar when the piece is pristine/mint and original. So, if one is hoping to sell and fetch a good price, don't repaint it. On the other hand, if selling for profit is not the motivating factor, then by all means, have it painted to suit your fancy. Watch Pawn Stars and you'll see how the price plummets if an item has been restored or touched up in any way, e.g. antique guns, cars, etc.

Still not so sure. I have seen many sets from K&C go for very little on e-bay in the last 6 months I have been on. It would be an interesting experiment to have two sets One in the so called mint condition and, a second repainted version to be placed on at the same time. I know its not really sound in terms of methodology for many reasons. it would be interesting all the same.

You certainly would not have to get a lot of money for a repaint to beat some of the costs I have seen some of the sets go for.
Mitch

I don't believe there is a right or wrong here, if you want to keep the integrity/pedigree of the original model then keep the paints in their box and if you want your model your way then go for it, there is no right or wrong but only opinions.

Rob

 

[OzDigger]

A collector pays top dollar when the piece is pristine/mint and original. So, if one is hoping to sell and fetch a good price, don't repaint it. On the other hand, if selling for profit is not the motivating factor, then by all means, have it painted to suit your fancy. Watch Pawn Stars and you'll see how the price plummets if an item has been restored or touched up in any way, e.g. antique guns, cars, etc.

I agree entirely. It has certainly been my experience gained from collecting a variety of items over many years, once you alter a collectible from the original the price drops, sometimes dramatically. I'm certainly not suggesting that people don't have their sets repainted, but it has to be said that there may be a down side in the future if you do. Of course if you never intend to sell your sets it won't matter much when you pass-on as your partner/children will most likely sell your treasured items at a yard sale anyway :wink2: ^&grin

 

[Jack]

I don't believe there is a right or wrong here, if you want to keep the integrity/pedigree of the original model then keep the paints in their box and if you want your model your way then go for it, there is no right or wrong but only opinions.

Rob

Yes...very true...you should have seen the job I saw some guy do on a Panther{sm4}

 

[Phantom Warrior]

Yes...very true...you should have seen the job I saw some guy do on a Panther{sm4}

Sounds like you were really burned up about the Panther. ^&grin Now there is an example of a refinishing project that reduces the resale value of the model. ^&grin

Terry

 

[Blowtorch]

A collector pays top dollar when the piece is pristine/mint and original. So, if one is hoping to sell and fetch a good price, don't repaint it. On the other hand, if selling for profit is not the motivating factor, then by all means, have it painted to suit your fancy. Watch Pawn Stars and you'll see how the price plummets if an item has been restored or touched up in any way, e.g. antique guns, cars, etc.

It's possible that a good repaint job can be ruined by a bad photograph. Last year I paid a standard price for a grey Opel repaint. By standard, I mean it was about $140ish iirc, what the other DAK & Normandy colors were selling for at the time. I didn't plan on spending a premium for the repaint.

IF, however, I had seen it in person at a show, and not a lousy photo on ebay, I would have paid a premium. It was extremely well done and would have been worth a substantial markup, that I wouldn't have felt comfortable trusting in an ebay sale. Too many crooks out there.

 

[Thompyt]

Hey Mitch,

That's a very good question, I guess a lot depends on which set it is. If it was for instance one of my ambulances or Tilly's then I would probably get it again if it were major damage. If however it was for instance my original Winter Tiger SL that had been damaged, or another retired item or some such I would probably get it fixed if possible. A lot would depend on item, cost of repair, cost of buying again. Actually your furry feline scenario has happened when one of my little darlings sent my Honour Bound Winter Panther hurtling towards earth from its parking space on my bookshelf, summoning up long hidden youthful Cricket reflexes I hurled myself across the room and caught said AFV as it plummeted earthwards. As a result said pussycat still retains her position in the household:wink2:






Hey PA,

I have the greatest respect and no little envy for the skill these guys have in repainting, I really admire their work a great deal. But for me when a K&C item is repainted it is a ' re imagining ' if you will and however good it looks its no longer the genuine article. This is just my view you understand and no disrespect meant to anyone. Again I guess its about being a purist, if I painted a Kubelwagon White I would always know its not the real deal, however good it looked. Also part of the fun of collecting is that over the years all these AFV's gradually get released and this is very enjoyable.

Again , just how I look at it guys

Best

Rob

If it falls off the shelf, would it not be devalued as a collectors item anways? Depending on the damage of course. Then a reapint doesn't devalue a purist collectors notion, and for the one getting back his beloved display item looking better than it did on floor..... Then there is no replacement for the joy.

 

[Thompyt]

I have seen some of one persons repaints foup for bid on a certain auction site. They do look [pretty nice, but I'll stick with the originals for the moment.

 

[OzDigger]

Sounds like you were really burned up about the Panther. ^&grin Now there is an example of a refinishing project that reduces the resale value of the model. ^&grin

Terry

Fire sale rather than yard sale {sm3}

 

[jazzeum]

Some fantastic looking conversions or repaints on this thread, particularly the Kaiser staff car and the news seller. Very cool.

 

[Rob]

Sounds like you were really burned up about the Panther. ^&grin Now there is an example of a refinishing project that reduces the resale value of the model. ^&grin

Terry

Yes, I didn't burn it out to sell it again:rolleyes2:

Rob

 

[waynepoo]

Yes...very true...you should have seen the job I saw some guy do on a Panther{sm4}

What paint job.........{sm3}{sm3}^&grin{sm4}
Wayne.

 

[Cyber Field Marshall]

My two cents. Its likely been said but here we go. I think its up to the collector to decide what they value with there collectibles. Once K&C sells them we can do whatever we want to them and who's to say whats right or wrong. It reminds me of restoring vehicles. Some collectors value a stock, factory original restoration while others like the car completely tweaked out. So it depends on what the collector values. If we're strictly talking about resale value I'd say some repaints are artistically great and may add value and some don't but the same holds true for leaving them in original shape, some appreciate some not so much. Personally I like to leave my collectibles alone comforted by the knowledge I'll likely see most of the versions I desire at some point in time however I'm not a rivet counter so unit numberings etc dont concern me much.

 

[Warbuff26]

A long time ago I wanted a "White Washed" Sherman to go with my BoB Dio......KC didnt make one so I made my own from an extra "Easy 8 Sherman" I had laying around........I love it!