KING TIGER tank question? (1 Viewer)

[wayne556517]

I was just wondering how these look with K&C figures are they BIG?
I like TCS vehicles but i want it to be huge next to figures thanks.

 

[villagehorse]

For my money I think the Royal Tiger is plenty big enough Wayne, but photos are hard to show size variations. Robin.

 

[villagehorse]

Have to say the TCS Tiger11 is 'not' noticeably larger than the TCS Tiger1. Interesting. Robin.

 

[villagehorse]

KT11 same height and width of T1, but 30mm longer length. Still a nice machine and with the option of the destroyed track. Yours would be in Winter format of course. Robin.

 

[wayne556517]

Thanks Robin now which version there is 4 to choose from.

 

[lancer]

Wayne, I have both the vehicles that Robin posted pics of, and they both look great with the current crop of figures from KC or CS. Actually, the CS newer Tiger I's (like the pictured 007 and later models), are bigger than previous Tiger I's in the hobby from KC or the earlier CS version. This extra size was deliberate on the part of CS to ensure that the vehicles would look properly large next to the figures. The new CS Tigers are the first to look properly sized next to the figures from KC and CS, which, as has been discussed endlessly, are actually 1/28 scale, not the 1/30 scale of vehicles. As you can see from Robin's photos, the figures can stand next to the tanks and actually not be taller than the tank decks, which they are on the industries earlier Tiger models. CS has done a good job by correcting the tank size, even if it does skew listed scales. -- Al

 

[villagehorse]

Thanks Robin now which version there is 4 to choose from.

Go with the Zimm and both versions of the turret. Robin.

 

[wayne556517]

Wayne, I have both the vehicles that Robin posted pics of, and they both look great with the current crop of figures from KC or CS. Actually, the CS newer Tiger I's (like the pictured 007 and later models), are bigger than previous Tiger I's in the hobby from KC or the earlier CS version. This extra size was deliberate on the part of CS to ensure that the vehicles would look properly large next to the figures. The new CS Tigers are the first to look properly sized next to the figures from KC and CS, which, as has been discussed endlessly, are actually 1/28 scale, not the 1/30 scale of vehicles. As you can see from Robin's photos, the figures can stand next to the tanks and actually not be taller than the tank decks, which they are on the industries earlier Tiger models. CS has done a good job by correcting the tank size, even if it does skew listed scales. -- Al

Thanks mate.

Go with the Zimm and both versions of the turret. Robin.

Yeah sounds like the way to go.

 

[wayne556517]

I just wish they where more "Winterized" so might go with these 2.



(Don't like the numbering on this one).

 

[Firebat]

TCS make the BIGGEST tanks and are the best match for K&C, Thomas Gunn etc.

I find Thomas Gunn to be the best match as they are a bit slighter than K&C and their guns are not oversized like K&C. TCS in having the biggest tanks also have the biggest figures, so in the size spectum of the mainstream figures TGM is the leanest and to me creates an excellent contrast to TCS AFV's. These are in most cases slight variations but if you want to get down to it, all things considered, I found this to be an excellent matchup................This is not iron clad there are exceptions, but this is my basic rule of thumb.

In this pic I also used an earlier TCS tank commander as they were smaller then. Look how massive the tank looks.

So to answer your question K&C figures are a good match too if you can deal with those giant guns.



Once again TGM / TCS

 

[Firebat]

To clarify the size subject even more, here is a K&C T-34 which is too small for K&C's own figures figures, but matches well with FL figures, which are the smallest in the mainstream spectrum.

So another great matchup, as of late is FL figures and K&C AFV's, but this can be erratic because K&C AFV's have varried in size through the years. This is another matchup which keeps you away from K&C's huge guns, being replaced by FL's well proportioned figures.

( DISCLAIMER ) :wink2: Remember this is from a modelers standpoint and not a pure collectors standpoint who generally does not consider these apects.

 

[Mitch]

Wayne....

at the end of the day its your choice however having had these the better versions are the non Zimm versions. Your definitely going to want to add to the wintered effect as its a bit too light and as with most of CS winter sets actually has a hue of pink because of the way its done.

Markings on the Zimm will come away with a knife tip as they are one piece decals and have not been set into the Zimm as you can do with dry transfers.

There is plenty of scope to mess around with these

Mitch

 

[wayne556517]

Thanks all i hate FL,s product so thats out of the question.
Im glad TCS make them big they look superb with K&C figures IMO.

 

[wwiibuff]

Wayne,

I think TCS King Tigers go perfectly with K&C figures. I use them with my K&C figures a lot and think they give the correct massive impression that a real King Tiger gave on the battlefield.

 

[wayne556517]

Thanks Duke.

 

[Hunter Rose]

Have to say the TCS Tiger11 is 'not' noticeably larger than the TCS Tiger1. Interesting. Robin.

Nor should it be, as in real life the King Tiger was not that much larger than a Tiger 1. The models fit together well for historical size.

 

[Firebat]

Wayne,

I think TCS King Tigers go perfectly with K&C figures. I use them with my K&C figures a lot and think they give the correct massive impression that a real King Tiger gave on the battlefield.

You are correct, but TGM fit even a bit better.

Once again I am speaking from more of a modelers standpoint rather than a collector and this is more of a collector hobby, so many dont take things to the level of a modeler.

This hobby is getting expensive and we have to make choices. TGM figures are well proportioned and less "Chunky" than K&C, and less expensive. TCS's price point is excellent also and they have the BIG factor.....So when I am advising someone there is no emotion or product loyalty here there is pure fact. I spend my money in the best detail and price, TGM and TCS is a well proportioned and realistic combination.

In the end of course choose the path that is most favorable to you, I am giving an honest apprasial of my findings. I think I have some credibility as a diorama builder, so I can only call it as I see it.

Wayne states he hates FL figures and I love them, it just shows how we all have different approaches to the hobby. This is not about favoritism or brand loyalty, it is about keeping your eyes wide open in this ever changing hobby and making choices, to get the best result, if you are serious about realistic diorama building.

Alex

 

[Andanna]

Thanks all i hate FL,s product so thats out of the question.

"Fear is the path to the Dark Side. Fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering."

YODA

 

[Mitch]

I don't agree with the chunky issue between K&C and TG. These figures seem to be the most compatible of all the manufacturers releases so, to say TG go better with X rather than K&C is at the best strange well, at least to me. TG make larger figures around the 1/28th scale same as K&C so, how can they work better?

The issue still continues because CS make 1/28th scale AFV's and sell them as 1/30th compounded by the fact that several models they release change from release to release between the two scales. Other manufacturers make 1/30th AFV's and larger figures some, make 1/30th AFV's and 1/30th figures.

Not sure the modeller V collector makes much sense either in the terms being used. I am a modeller and a collector I model and collect the two are mutually compatible and not as distinct as made out. The modeller can care as little about scale and similar as a collector they just have an ability to play around with sets to get them looking in their minds eye to be better than what is released from the factory.

As I have said before much is made about figure size but, every manufacturer makes figures all the same height which, is never discussed in all of these ''real'' discussions and, is the most unnatural thing to have every soldier on a shelf or in scene or diorama.

What is clear is that we all know what scales are delivered from each manufacturer give or take so, just mix them up however suits your taste and wallet and don't care a hoot if someone says they don't work or do work.
Mitch

 

[Firebat]

I don't agree with the chunky issue between K&C and TG. These figures seem to be the most compatible of all the manufacturers releases so, to say TG go better with X rather than K&C is at the best strange well, at least to me. TG make larger figures around the 1/28th scale same as K&C so, how can they work better?

The issue still continues because CS make 1/28th scale AFV's and sell them as 1/30th compounded by the fact that several models they release change from release to release between the two scales. Other manufacturers make 1/30th AFV's and larger figures some, make 1/30th AFV's and 1/30th figures.

Not sure the modeller V collector makes much sense either in the terms being used. I am a modeller and a collector I model and collect the two are mutually compatible and not as distinct as made out. The modeller can care as little about scale and similar as a collector they just have an ability to play around with sets to get them looking in their minds eye to be better than what is released from the factory.

As I have said before much is made about figure size but, every manufacturer makes figures all the same height which, is never discussed in all of these ''real'' discussions and, is the most unnatural thing to have every soldier on a shelf or in scene or diorama.

What is clear is that we all know what scales are delivered from each manufacturer give or take so, just mix them up however suits your taste and wallet and don't care a hoot if someone says they don't work or do work.
Mitch

It is all in our minds eye.............That is why we all see it different. Someone asked for advise and I gave mine ( From my eye ). I know when a scene looks right TO ME and when it dosen't and I also know why it dosen't....Anyone reading this can take the advise or leave it. I have many reasons for the advise I gave and if any serious modeler and diorama builder wants to know them they can PM me, other than that my case is closed. Alex