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That makes perfect sense. The S.E.5a and Albatros showcase the figures very nicely, IMO.

For the uninitiated, a word of caution about the JJD pilot figures...

While they fit nicely in the associated cockpits, it's awfully important not to tip the model too far on one of its axes when the figures are inserted. Not only will the figure exit the model when the "angle of attack" goes critical, they will do so in a manner that wrongfully implies that the darn things are spring-loaded. The figures are made out of metal, after all, and each is capable of doing damage to a toe or a shelf not too terribly dis-similar from what one might experience from the head of a small hammer. Very nasty, indeed! :wink2:

-Moe
Sort of a WW1 era ejector seat, eh? :wink2:^&grin -- Al
 
That makes perfect sense. The S.E.5a and Albatros showcase the figures very nicely, IMO.

For the uninitiated, a word of caution about the JJD pilot figures...

While they fit nicely in the associated cockpits, it's awfully important not to tip the model too far on one of its axes when the figures are inserted. Not only will the figure exit the model when the "angle of attack" goes critical, they will do so in a manner that wrongfully implies that the darn things are spring-loaded. The figures are made out of metal, after all, and each is capable of doing damage to a toe or a shelf not too terribly dis-similar from what one might experience from the head of a small hammer. Very nasty, indeed! :wink2:

-Moe

Sounds like the voice of experience . . . . .
:smile2: Mike
 
While I am thrilled with JJD's current WW1 releases, and they are really fine, I am beginning to suffer withdrawl symptoms from the lack of recent aircraft releases in the KotS series. The last release was in December 2013 and was the Steinhauser triplane. With the release of the April '14 announcements, we are now looking at a 5 month gap between aircraft, if JJD releases one in May, and I have no idea if one is coming then. I have no idea what might be in the works beyond JJD's announced decision to provide at least one more triplane from Jasta 11 and a Spad that is now quite overdo. I don't believe John is phasing out the KotS, it is too vast a subject and is popular amongst many, but the lack of info on upcoming projects is frustrating. I am convinced it is a factory capacity issue. Anyone else got any knowledge/ideas as to the future course here? -- Al
The release gap has now grown by another couple of months. Perhaps the June announcements will have an aircraft in them. Added to the missing Spad, and the as yet mystery Fokker tripe, is an unannounced but spotted in photos Naval 10 Camel. So that's 3 aircraft in the works. When will one land? Anyone, Anyone? -- Al
 
The release gap has now grown by another couple of months. Perhaps the June announcements will have an aircraft in them. Added to the missing Spad, and the as yet mystery Fokker tripe, is an unannounced but spotted in photos Naval 10 Camel. So that's 3 aircraft in the works. When will one land? Anyone, Anyone? -- Al

Can't respond to your question, however on another note, I was able to procur today, all new in their boxes, ACE-01 (Red Fokker), ACE-BP (1st set British Pilots), GGC-01 (German Mechanics pushing Fokker), and GGC-03 (German Mechanic w/Oil Cart). I did not realize that I am three years behind schedule . . . . . . The hunt continues . . . . . .
:smile2: Mike
 
Can't respond to your question, however on another note, I was able to procur today, all new in their boxes, ACE-01 (Red Fokker), ACE-BP (1st set British Pilots), GGC-01 (German Mechanics pushing Fokker), and GGC-03 (German Mechanic w/Oil Cart). I did not realize that I am three years behind schedule . . . . . . The hunt continues . . . . . .
:smile2: Mike
Mike, good get on the Red Baron's tripe (you can't have an official WW1 aviation collection without one:wink2:) and the very useful pilot set and oil cart set. The mechanics pushing the Fokker are also a good get as I think they are retired. -- Al
 
Thanks Al . . . . . ACE-01 is Out of Stock, and the other three sets are all SOLD OUT/RETIRED . . . . . That's why I jumped on them when I found them . . . . . .
:smile2: Mike
 
Is there a list of planes that can use the stands?
Brad, the aircraft that are fitted to take stands have an (S) following the set number, such as ACE-08 (S) or ACE-17 (S). Many of the early models were not fitted for stands and do not have the (S) in the set number. Some of the older aircraft that have new production runs are also produced with the (S) now. Some of the older aircraft that are now SO and unavailable were never produced to take a stand, like the Kempf triplane or the Goering white Fokker D-7. Many of the older aircraft that don't take stands are still in inventory, so if you have any doubt, just ask your dealer to make sure whether or not the model is fitted to take the stand. The current list is on the JJD site. -- Al
 
Al,

Many thanks. I had ordered Ace 15. What Allied plane that John has made would go against Udet's plane?

Brad
 
Al,

Many thanks. I had ordered Ace 15. What Allied plane that John has made would go against Udet's plane?

Brad
Brad, strictly speaking as a rivet counter, Udet would not have encountered any of the current INDIVIDUAL JJD aircraft while flying the striped triplane. Udet took over command of Jasta 4 on May 20, 1918 and inherited the striped triplane around this time. Jasta 4 flew against the French at this time, during the Marne offensive. Udet's victory claims in May and June all consist of French aircraft, mostly Breguet XIV two-seaters and Spads (7's or 13's). He claimed 13 machines of these types while possibly flying the striped tripe. The tripe was heavily damaged in later June and Udet probably did not fly it again. I wouldn't worry too much about matching an exact opponent to the particular triplane. Udet's war claims include all of the types JJD has made, at one time or another, Camels (15), SE-5's (7), Nieuports (3), and Spads (14). It's just that during the time period in question, the only type I can ID for sure would be the Spad, and that would have been a French flown one, probably of the Type 7. Records just aren't that detailed so I'm sorry the answer isn't more specific. Udet flew against the French and the British, against many different types of aircraft, in many different types of aircraft, so my advice would be to just pick what you like and display away. -- Al
 
Thanks Al for your great answer, which was very specific. I knew that you would know.

Brad
 
The release gap has now grown by another couple of months. Perhaps the June announcements will have an aircraft in them. Added to the missing Spad, and the as yet mystery Fokker tripe, is an unannounced but spotted in photos Naval 10 Camel. So that's 3 aircraft in the works. When will one land? Anyone, Anyone? -- Al
Anyone? -- Al
 
An ACE-4, Sopwith Camel, sold on eBay today for $182, http://www.ebay.com/itm/John-Jenkin...%2FYGaokqS3QiVDTuxRqQ%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

I suppose that if there were no other Sopwith Camels available, it might have gone for more.

Hi Brad,

That's pretty much retail for that model. I'd also note that while no production numbers have ever been made public, Jenkins has let it be known that some KotS models were produced in greater numbers than others. In terms of specifics, John indicated that the Brown Camel and Richthofen Fokker warranted additional production because of the models' popularity. That's not to say that other models didn't see additional production. Rather, those are just the two that the manufacturer mentioned in passing. I'm pretty sure, for instance, that there were a whole lot more Bishop Nieuports produced than Kempf Triplanes. From a collector's viewpoint, I guess the ultimate value of the JJ replicas will come down to a competition as to what's rarest versus what's considered a "must have" in the historical sense. As to how it will ultimately shake-out, I can't offer much help. That said, I've yet to see anything remotely approaching a fire-sale on JJD model airplanes.

-Moe
 
Anyone? -- Al

My guess is that because of the price and space demands that it may be better to spread them out. When they come out every month it's difficult to keep up. Particularly if something new is out the next month. Also, it may be a bit more time consuming to release new models rather than repainting existing ones. Just a guess though. I recently saw most of these at a recent show grouped together including several that I did not buy. They are fantastic. John has really outdone himself and these planes lend themselves to display. Particularly the German planes with their unique paint schemes.
 
My guess is that because of the price and space demands that it may be better to spread them out. When they come out every month it's difficult to keep up. Particularly if something new is out the next month. Also, it may be a bit more time consuming to release new models rather than repainting existing ones. Just a guess though. I recently saw most of these at a recent show grouped together including several that I did not buy. They are fantastic. John has really outdone himself and these planes lend themselves to display. Particularly the German planes with their unique paint schemes.
Pretty much correct. It takes a lot of planning to get a new plane done and repainting an existing triplane or Camel is faster. John has said that he is currently heavily involved with the WW1 figure and vehicle releases which has put the planes on a bit of a backburner, but there are others on the way. -- Al
 
I'm playing catchup but will not go crazy. I have just received two planes and one more on the way. I guess that does qualify as going a little crazy {eek3} ^&grin All three German but am monitoring low stock situations on others.
 
Just received in this afternoon's mail ACE-17(S) Albatros DIII "Blaue Maus" . . . . . a very impressive looking model and much better looking in hand than in the stock photos of it on the internet . . . . . I really like the blue color it is done in. I did not realize it was so much larger than the other JJD WWI aircraft I have; ie Fokker Dr1's and Camels . . . . .
:smile2: Mike
 

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