N.F.L. Season 2018-19 (1 Viewer)

[lancer]

I read one of the complaints being brought against him.

Innocent until proven guilty and all that.......................but that said; this looks horrendous, makes what Roethlisberger did and Antonio Brown did look like child's play.

A lifetime ban is coming.................so is jail time.

Jeez. I just heard 6 more lawsuits were filed against him today. -- Al

 

[mikemiller1955]

and with all that said...
his agent/lawyer claims that there are still 6 teams interested in him...
I find that hard to believe...

 

[mikemiller1955]

and...
the most perplexing thing to me is...
that all these women are suing in civil court for the minimum $500...
which I also find hard to believe...

 

[Panzer ace]

The Niners traded up to No. 3 in the draft.

I have no idea what they are going to do with that pick but considering they traded their first round picks in 2022 and 2023 to get there they better not miss with it.

Maybe they are going to try and trade it for Deshaun Watson?

 

[jazzeum]

The Niners traded up to No. 3 in the draft.

I have no idea what they are going to do with that pick but considering they traded their first round picks in 2022 and 2023 to get there they better not miss with it.

Maybe they are going to try and trade it for Deshaun Watson?

It would take more than a number 3 pick to obtain Watson. I’m sure they are going to use it to draft a QB. They don’t need help on the lines and you wouldn’t use that high a pick to draft someone in the secondary. They’ve indicated they have no plans to trade Jimmy G but I would expect them to say that.

 

[Warrior]

It would take more than a number 3 pick to obtain Watson. I’m sure they are going to use it to draft a QB. They don’t need help on the lines and you wouldn’t use that high a pick to draft someone in the secondary. They’ve indicated they have no plans to trade Jimmy G but I would expect them to say that.

I really don't understand the way NFL teams conduct business sometimes.

The Jets, Falcons and 49ers all have QB's, but all are rumored to be picking a QB with their first round pick.

So if that happens, what do the Jets, Falcons and 49ers do with Darnold, Ryan and Jimmy G.............the Falcons just restructured Ryan's contract.............and yeah, I get it, the top 3 QBs are all being hailed as can't miss prospects.................I've heard that before, not always the case, you know what you have with the guy you have now, why bail on him and go with an unproven QB?

 

[Panzer ace]

It would take more than a number 3 pick to obtain Watson. I’m sure they are going to use it to draft a QB. They don’t need help on the lines and you wouldn’t use that high a pick to draft someone in the secondary. They’ve indicated they have no plans to trade Jimmy G but I would expect them to say that.

Brad:

The Watson trade was really just a guess.

As for Jimmy G., the absolute kiss of death in sports is when an owner/GM/coach tells the press that anyone’s job is assured/safe.

-Jason

 

[jazzeum]

Brad:

The Watson trade was really just a guess.

As for Jimmy G., the absolute kiss of death in sports is when an owner/GM/coach tells the press that anyone’s job is assured/safe.

-Jason

My guess is that he will be there but if he falters they will put the new kid in. The one complicating factor is that they’re going to be a very strong contender to win the NFC. Do you really want to turn the reigns over to a rookie?

I understand that the Pats are interested in him but are rumored to only be offering a third round pick.

As far as the Jets go, it’s hard to know whether what they will do. Despite having a lot of cap space they haven’t done much so far.

 

[Panzer ace]

Houston’s GM says the lawsuits against Deshaun Watson are “certainly troubling”.

In other news the speed of light is fast......

 

[Warrior]

So now the 49ers asking price for Jimmy G is a first round draft pick.

So let's see;

He was drafted in the late second round.
He was traded for an early second round pick.
Since then, he has done nothing to improve his stock; he has gotten injured multiple times, and been a decent QB when healthy, and is getting paid more than he is worth.

So how is he all of a sudden worth more than a second round pick?

That's pretty ballsy of the 49er's to ask for a first round draft pick.

 

[jazzeum]

So now the 49ers asking price for Jimmy G is a first round draft pick.

So let's see;

He was drafted in the late second round.
He was traded for an early second round pick.
Since then, he has done nothing to improve his stock; he has gotten injured multiple times, and been a decent QB when healthy, and is getting paid more than he is worth.

So how is he all of a sudden worth more than a second round pick?

That's pretty ballsy of the 49er's to ask for a first round draft pick.

In any negotiation you want to ask high but settle lower. For example, if you ask for a second round pick, the counter may be a third round pick. In a negotiation you can always go down but you can’t go up. One of the first things I realized when negotiating contracts.

He’s been with the 49ers part of one season and three full seasons. After he came over from NE he was healthy and in the last five games of the season, the team looked very good. Everyone was confident about the next season. Unfortunately, he got hurt in the second game against KC and was lost for the season. The following season he was healthy and led the team to the SB. Last season, he got hurt and that was it. If he stays healthy you’ve got a dynamite QB. His biggest flaw is holding the ball too long. Against the Rams last year (forget which game), Shanahan made him get rid of the ball quickly and he looked better. I think the 49ers are tired of his brittleness and his tendency to hold the ball too long.

 

[Warrior]

In any negotiation you want to ask high but settle lower. For example, if you ask for a second round pick, the counter may be a third round pick. In a negotiation you can always go down but you can’t go up. One of the first things I realized when negotiating contracts.

He’s been with the 49ers part of one season and three full seasons. After he came over from NE he was healthy and in the last five games of the season, the team looked very good. Everyone was confident about the next season. Unfortunately, he got hurt in the second game against KC and was lost for the season. The following season he was healthy and led the team to the SB. Last season, he got hurt and that was it. If he stays healthy you’ve got a dynamite QB. His biggest flaw is holding the ball too long. Against the Rams last year (forget which game), Shanahan made him get rid of the ball quickly and he looked better. I think the 49ers are tired of his brittleness and his tendency to hold the ball too long.

Him being injury prone really is the rub, you are correct.

I guess San Francisco is through with him, where he lands is anyones guess.

 

[jazzeum]

Him being injury prone really is the rub, you are correct.

I guess San Francisco is through with him, where he lands is anyones guess.

To me, trying to trade him doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you’re getting someone like Watson in return. Otherwise, you’re relying on a rookie QB for a team that would otherwise be in contention.

 

[Warrior]

To me, trying to trade him doesn’t make a lot of sense unless you’re getting someone like Watson in return. Otherwise, you’re relying on a rookie QB for a team that would otherwise be in contention.

Great point; maybe they keep him for a year and let the rookie sit on his rookie deal, ready to jump in when Jimmy G eventually gets hurt and has to sit out a game or two or three.

I guess we'll see.

When was the last time the top three picks in the draft ended up being quarterbacks?

 

[Panzer ace]

Great point; maybe they keep him for a year and let the rookie sit on his rookie deal, ready to jump in when Jimmy G eventually gets hurt and has to sit out a game or two or three.

I guess we'll see.

When was the last time the top three picks in the draft ended up being quarterbacks?

The one year Jimmy G. played in all 16 games for the Niners they went to the Super Bowl.

In his 2 other full seasons, 2018 and 2020 he played in 9 games out of 32.

His durability is a proven issue.

As far as the draft goes, it is an absolute gamble. In the last 20 years only 2 Super Bowl winning QBs were drafted within the first 3 picks.

 

[jazzeum]

The Jets have traded Darnold to the Panthers for a second, fourth and a sixth. Early grading gives the Jets an A and the Panthers a C as taking Darnold, who has underperformed, is risky.

 

[mikemiller1955]

George...

in a way...
that's good for you isn't it?
if Carolina took Darnold for their QB...
I would think they wouldn't use their #8 for another QB...
I would think it would take them out of a QB selection with their pick...

Jets are still gonna use their #2 to take a QB...
so NE moved up the way I see it...
that gives NE a better chance to get one of the top 5 coveted QB's in the draft...
right?

 

[Warrior]

George...

in a way...
that's good for you isn't it?
if Carolina took Darnold for their QB...
I would think they wouldn't use their #8 for another QB...
I would think it would take them out of a QB selection with their pick...

Jets are still gonna use their #2 to take a QB...
so NE moved up the way I see it...
that gives NE a better chance to get one of the top 5 coveted QB's in the draft...
right?

Great point Mike, but at the same time, I never underestimate the stupidity of the front offfice's on some of these doormat teams; they're doormats for a reason, so we'll see.

That's a very good haul for the Jets for a guy who just didn't work out.

That said, this is frightening;

Updating the list of Jets recent 1st round picks:2012 - Q. Coples - cut 2013 - D. Milliner - cut 2013 - S. Richardson - traded 2014 - C. Pryor - traded 2015 - L. Williams -traded 2016 - D. Lee - traded2017 - J. Adams - traded2018 - S. Darnold - traded

And people around here give Belichick a rough time for his recent drafts.................the draft is a such a total crapshoot, how many first round busts are there vs guys who turn into HOF players drafted in rounds four through seven....................

 

[Combat]

Great point; maybe they keep him for a year and let the rookie sit on his rookie deal, ready to jump in when Jimmy G eventually gets hurt and has to sit out a game or two or three.

I guess we'll see.

When was the last time the top three picks in the draft ended up being quarterbacks?

That never, ever works. The veteran QB is always unhappy when a team uses a top pick for his successor. That becomes cancer on the entire team. And the fans will be breathing down the necks of the coaches to bench him and put in the new guy. A toxic situation.

 

[mikemiller1955]

Cam may turn out to be brilliant...who knows...
he started off good...had some really good moments...
then Covid hit him...he didn't look the same...
couple that with a new system...
his performance faltered...

I feel like NE wants/needs a franchise QB...
I think they have a better chance of getting one the five 1st round QB's on the market after the Panthers/Jets trade...
barring any pre draft trades that throw a wrench in everyone's plans...

like you say...it's a crap shoot...
Brady was a round 7 right?
who'd a thunk dem rezults!