Need some opinions on figarti! (1 Viewer)

[Mitch]

not argue, offer another opinion which does not fit with a certain section of the forum. That is what its all about I have opinions others do and if they are diametrically opposed that does not mean that just because some have been on longer or have larger collections or are from the players in the market, mean I, or others, have to change their opinions.

In this case it was not right IMO, and others, what was said and, others state I am not right, fair enough, thats debate. but, I would rather everyone man up and say what they want than place reasons for deleting a thread as a reply.

Thats not worth the bother. Once again someone goes against the accepted grain and, its made out thats its an argument. its not its a debate which, was not fully proven that being ex military means you make better figures.

What it has done and my apologies to figarti collectors is spoil a decent thread about important issues for figarti and, from a artistic perspective an interesting one about a paint style unique to one maker.
Mitch

 

[Vezzolf]

If you are suggesting altering pictures I agree....The pics we presented here were natural and clear. And once again we are not suggesting a preference for Figarti. We were responding to the subject matter of the thread.

Alex

Alex, I am not suggesting that some of the pictures you are posting are "altered"; However the way you are presenting them does not accurately depict the compatibility of Figarti and K/C in the flesh. The way a photograph is taken: figure position, lighting and camera angles can affected to a desired result.....It is best to take pictures side by side outside a diorama setting to compare compatibility of figures....Only then can a true comparison be determined regarding figure quality and compatibility between different manufacturers; That way styles can be clearly evaluated....otherwise it's simply illusion.

 

[Currahee Chris]

bradley!!

 

[Firebat]

Alex, I am not suggesting that some of the pictures you are posting are "altered"; However the way you are presenting them does not accurately depict the compatibility of Figarti and K/C in the flesh. The way a photograph is taken: figure position, lighting and camera angles can affected to a desired result.....It is best to take pictures side by side outside a diorama setting to compare compatibility of figures....Only then can a true comparison be determined regarding figure quality and compatibility between different manufacturers; That way styles can be clearly evaluated....otherwise it's simply illusion.

I agree and Disagree..... As I stated previously, there are scenes we wanted to do in THE GREAT CRUSADE, which we couldn't do, once we took the figures out, and tried to place them. If we were able to do the scene, for the most part, the figures worked together. Yes sometimes we put smaller figures in the background. But we try to stay away from doing that.

As I also stated previously, we can't work miracles. If figures don't look good, there is not much we can do. So I still say The GREAT CRUSADE, and some of our previous work are a good vehicle for comparison.

We repainted and altered some older figures for upcoming Episodes. And we are surprised how good we made them look. We will point that out when we use them. Still overall we are attempting to represent all manufacturers on an even plane. Alex

 

[Vezzolf]

Alex, I just want fellow forum members to get an "accurate impression" of figure quality and compatibility...it would be good to do a side by side; outside a diorama scene as well...That way it's all fair...Best Vezzolf

 

[uksubs]

After reading these posts I must concur with Mitch...Although a military background might be helpful in being a toy soldier manufacturer it is certainly "Not Necessary" to produce the highest quality toy soldier products....This is an "art form" not a military science. The artistic ability and knowledge required to produce good sculpts and painting of toy soldiers certainly does not require that the artist had at one time in his or her life carried a weapon....Did any toy soldier manufacturers do battle in the Civil War, Revolutionary War or the Crusades...I don't think so:rolleyes2:...To suggest this is a significant factor is a stretch at best and a bit silly... IMO

Think your spot on mate :wink2:

 

[Firebat]

Alex, I just want fellow forum members to get an "accurate impression" of figure quality and compatibility...it would be good to do a side by side; outside a diorama scene as well...That way it's all fair...Best Vezzolf

Agreed............We will do it when we can. The Great Crusade is keeping us very busy, and we are getting a lot of orders to build scenes for collectors, which we don't usually do. Our main objective is to entertain the troops, and respect Veterans through Military Modeling. Alex

 

[Showman]

not argue, offer another opinion which does not fit with a certain section of the forum. That is what its all about I have opinions others do and if they are diametrically opposed that does not mean that just because some have been on longer or have larger collections or are from the players in the market, mean I, or others, have to change their opinions.

In this case it was not right IMO, and others, what was said and, others state I am not right, fair enough, thats debate. but, I would rather everyone man up and say what they want than place reasons for deleting a thread as a reply.

Thats not worth the bother. Once again someone goes against the accepted grain and, its made out thats its an argument. its not its a debate which, was not fully proven that being ex military means you make better figures.

What it has done and my apologies to figarti collectors is spoil a decent thread about important issues for figarti and, from a artistic perspective an interesting one about a paint style unique to one maker.
Mitch

I totally agree with this statement. I think one or two manufacturers I know personally say it best "...buy what you like..." In the long run the market will decide and someone will or will not be around any longer manufacturing these great toys we all love.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

Mix and match some of there figures have good paint quality some seem to be lacking .

 

[Firebat]

Figarti and K&C untouched ! ....The small truck on the left is from Gearbox. We did weather, the 2nd in line, K&C truck a bit to bring it in line with the weathered Figarti vehicles. That is a personal touch. We like our stuff dull and weathered. Some like it brighter.

Also check this, for Figarti at their best with BSP :

http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/showthread.php?3744-Battle-Scene-Productions/page50

 

[thebritfarmer]

That is a great shot !!!

 

[Mitch]

Firebat....

Excellent as usual
Mitch

 

[Firebat]

Here it is again, done up by BSP. What I love about this.... there is no combat, yet it invokes the tension of men about to go to war. There is more about this below, in the Dioramas / BSP section. We had discussed the no action shots a long while back. And the consensus was only action sells. I really disagree with that. Alex

 

[daruss]

Time for me to chime in.. I received the Russian "Tank Riders" the other day.. One of the arms was out of the socket, but that could have happened during shipping. It appears to be easy to fix.. The uniforms on these figures seem to be OK, but the faces look "generic"! Also, its advertised as "1/30" scale, though i doesn't look like i can put them together with other manufactures of 1/30 scale figures. Please post any imput you may have..

 

[Firebat]

I dont think I am answering your question specifically. But as we are putting together the Great Crusade, there is no rhyme or reason to any of the manufacturers products we are doing scenes with.

Currently we are working with

Figarti
TCS
TGM
K&C
Britains
Conte
Patriot

Sometimes everything works together, sometimes nothing works together and everything in between. And let me tell you we are working with hundreds of combinations.

I could not get into greater detail without writing many paragraphs.

Here is how crazy it can get. We have has instances where 1/30 figures worked better with another manufacturers 1/32nd figures............. If it looks good to you ...Do it ! Alex

 

[Blowtorch]

I received the Russian "Tank Riders" the other day.. One of the arms was out of the socket, but that could have happened during shipping. It appears to be easy to fix.. The uniforms on these figures seem to be OK, but the faces look "generic"! Also, its advertised as "1/30" scale, though i doesn't look like i can put them together with other manufactures of 1/30 scale figures. Please post any imput you may have..

The socket sounds like bad luck...that kind of thing was a problem a long time ago.

If you are comparing to K&C, they are are the same scale in height, but K&C are more puffy. Puffy is a tough thing to get looking good, as it's a very artistic style. When Figarti used to do puffy long ago, their figs looked like the spawn of the Michelin Man. Plus current Figarti figs are generally darker, which makes them look smaller still

I like the sculpting of Figarti & hope they don't change. My constructive criticism would be that they are making the Russians too uniform & uninteresting. The uniforms & gear had much more variety in color than what they are using. And I think they are at the limit for how dark they can go. I'd even push up overall brightness just a bit. It doesn't seem to me like they are taking advantage of glossy leather & bright colors when they can. The same guy can have completely different colored khaki tunic & trousers. Things like that. Accessorize more, etc.

Overall Berlin seems like a growth area for Figarti & me happy.

There seems to be a difference in style...K&C goes for artistic shelf appeal, Figarti is going a few steps closer to reality

 

[daruss]

What is the best kind of glue to use to repair the figure? Can my tank riders be used with the K&C t34??
Thanks

 

[marksable]

Wow...I never fail to be blown away by BSP's dioramas and photos. With this one, I had to do a double take to make sure it wasn't an archival war photo.

Don't want to double post, so I'll say her the D-Day scene was a real work of art.

If you haven't done so already, you should publish a book of these. Or someone should have you do their catalogs.

Here it is again, done up by BSP. What I love about this.... there is no combat, yet it invokes the tension of men about to go to war. There is more about this below, in the Dioramas / BSP section. We had discussed the no action shots a long while back. And the consensus was only action sells. I really disagree with that. Alex

 

[Blowtorch]

What is the best kind of glue to use to repair the figure? Can my tank riders be used with the K&C t34??
Thanks

The tank riders can be used with the T34 (you mean the recent one, right?) The figs are absolutely 100% in scale in every dimension with the tank CO holding the PPS-43. The only differences are the brown vs. green khaki uniforms...perfectly OK, and the K&C PPS-43 is larger. The figs themselves are very compatible. Head, body, shoulders, etc. The T-34 is too small to hold all 4 figs however. But any two figs can easily go on...there are even places for the jumper to hold on to.

For glue I use 2 part epoxy applied with toothpicks, the 5 minute setting kind. Of course you want to practice with this by gluing other things first.

If a little comes out of the seam of your fig, dab it up with a fresh toothpick & let dry. Once dry, finely brush on a flat finish & it will disappear.

 

[daruss]

Hi, the break is on the figure is "clean".. The arm is out of the hole basically. Can i get this epoxy at a grocery store or do i need to go to a "LOWES"? Thanks