New Release:Jagdpanther in Winter & Normandy (1 Viewer)

[Mitch]

Tullock...

What books have you authored???
Mitch

 

[Phantom Warrior]

You are correct about the 4 Heer jagdpanthers belonging to Pz Abt 559.For a short time they were attached to Kampfgruppe Walther and saw very limited action during the campaign.Both 9SS and 10SS Divisions recieved their long overdue Panzerjager abteilungs at this time,each comprising a newly reduced establishment of 21 jagdpanzer 1Vs and 12 towed Pak 40s.Both Battalions were held up during transport and in the end very few of these vehicles saw any action around Arnhem.
Cheers Jeff

Timing is everything with orders of battle. On paper, the 9th SS and 10th SS had Panzerjager abteilungs - but they were just not in position at Arnhem. But a few days after Arnhem the Panzerjager would have caught up to their Divisions. I have seen an Order of Battle which shows the 10th SS had 20 Jagdpanzers during Arnhem, but everything else suggeste their Jagdpanzers weren't actually there yet.

Terry

 

[Phantom Warrior]

PHANTOM WARRIOR:

Concerning the 4 Jagdpanthers of 559 Panzerjägerabteilung who fought against UK and US forces during Operation Market Garden, would the US forces you're talking about be be the 82nd Airborne?

No. It was the 506th Parachute Regiment of the 101st Airborne.

Terry

 

[Currahee Chris]

No. It was the 506th Parachute Regiment of the 101st Airborne.

Terry

I've never heard of this mythological regiment. Pish-Posh!! {sm4}

Terry- was there ever a time when the 9th or 10th SS Panzer Abeitlung have organic Abrams support ?? {sm4}

 

[fmethorst]

Tullock...

What books have you authored???
Mitch

http://www.militarypress.co.uk/german_armed_forces/index.htm#Panzier

 

[Phantom Warrior]

I've never heard of this mythological regiment. Pish-Posh!! {sm4}

Terry- was there ever a time when the 9th or 10th SS Panzer Abeitlung have organic Abrams support ?? {sm4}

Your question intrigued me so I extensively researched it and can say with confidence that General Abrams at no time supported any SS units. {sm4}{sm4}


Terry

 

[Currahee Chris]

Your question intrigued me so I extensively researched it and can say with confidence that General Abrams at no time supported any SS units. {sm4}{sm4}


Terry

{sm4}{sm4} Quote of the week bro!! {sm4}

 

[Mitch]

Frank...

Thank you. I presume that the poster and author is the dugdale books? I have many of the ones which, your search came up with.
Mitch

http://www.militarypress.co.uk/german_armed_forces/index.htm#Panzier

 

[lancer]

The 9th SS were at Arnhem but 9 S.S. Panzerjäger Abteilung had only 2 Jagdpanzer IV and the 10th SS were there as well but not their anti-tank battalion. There were some Jagdpanthers on the highway to Arnhem which fought against US and British troops - 4 Jagdpanthers of 559 Panzerjägerabteilung a Heer unit.

Terry

Thanks, Terry. Those are the 'small' numbers that I read about, somewhere. -- Al

 

[dragon53]

PHANTOM WARRIOR:

That reminds me, in BAND OF BROTHERS, there's a Jagdpanther knocking out British Shermans in the "Replacements" episode about Market Garden.

 

[Phantom Warrior]

PHANTOM WARRIOR:

That reminds me, in BAND OF BROTHERS, there's a Jagdpanther knocking out British Shermans in the "Replacements" episode about Market Garden.

The Jagdpanthers were not at Arnhem itself. The fight with the British Shermans was September 24 near Veghel about 40 miles southwest of Arnhem. The Germans attacked there again on the 25th and the Americans held them off and counterattacked with the 506th(101st) and Shermans. The 4 Jagdpanthers were fighting both days. The Germans feared being surrounded so withdrew that night.

Terry

 

[dragon53]

PHANTOM WARRIOR:

Do you have any information on Stug IIIs in combat with the 82nd Airborne during Market Garden?

 

[Phantom Warrior]

PHANTOM WARRIOR:

Do you have any information on Stug IIIs in combat with the 82nd Airborne during Market Garden?

Not specifically. That is a much more difficult task (bigger job) There were only 4 Jagdpanthers at the Market Garden so they were easy to focus on and track as were the relatively few King Tigers. The Germans had lots of Stugs so tracking it that way would be far too much work if it was even feasible. The only way to do it is to get a detailed history of the 82nd and see where they encountered Stugs.

Terry

 

[dragon53]

PHANTOM WARRIOR:

I was afraid you were going to say that.
I read an 800 page history of the 82nd Airborne. When the paratroopers encountered a Tiger or Panther, they mention it as such.
But if it's another type of tank, they they say "panzer" or tank destroyer, so it's hard to find detailed info about the Stug and 82nd Airborne.

 

[uksubs]

In after the battle book there loads of Drugs taking on the Brits^&cool, I even read that a jagdtiger was used in the later stage of the battle

 

[uksubs]

Just got my Normandy jagdpanther like the way they put a wash over tank to give it a weathered look

 

[cnq]

Just got my Normandy jagdpanther like the way they put a wash over tank to give it a weathered look

Glad you changed your mind and bought it. TCS armors are best bang for the bucks nowaday.

 

[uksubs]

Glad you changed your mind and bought it. TCS armors are best bang for the bucks nowaday.

Think your right mate they are great value and well designed

 

[Mitch]

Look forward to some pics
Mitch

 

[graycap]

For information on German armour operating against alllied forces during Market Garden an excellant source is "It Never Snows in September; the German view of MARKET-GARDEN and the Battle for Arnhem, September 1944"; by Robert Kershaw. Covers the fighting in Nijmegan, along "Hells Highway" and of course in and around Arnhem itself. Highly recommended.