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[Medic 314/79th]

Hello Medic … I am not knowledgeable on propeller design, so can you please explain a little deeper what you are commenting about the "metal cuffs or sleeves" on the prop.?
Appreciate it.


--- LaRRy

Larry, they were added to root portion of blades to alter flow of blades, either for more local engine cooling or performance in bite in the air. Look at pictures of P3 Orion modern day sub patrol craft. These turbo props have these sleeves or cuff on the blades commonly.
Or search f4f wildcat propellor cuffs. They will show up. These is a picture of the planeJohn Jenkins modelled, with them installed.

 

[phoenix26]

What happened to the StugIII? It was supposed to arrive late summer.

 

[bradleyl30]

What happened to the StugIII? It was supposed to arrive late summer.

Chicago probably.

 

[mestell]

i prefer the blue paint scheme. I see only one pic of this actual aircraft (I like my models, if possible to represent as accurate a depiction as they can) it is on the hanger deck, and although the pic is very light and hard to tell, it appears to have the blue upper surface painted in the photo. and looks like JJD has depicted it. so, it's accurate for that day in Oct, 1941.
However the aircraft has the metal cuffs or sleeves on the thick base ends of the propellor blades,I guess I can paint this on my model when I get it.

Not all propellor assembly's had this. some were black. and it's not impossible to say this aircraft did'nt get a prop change even the next day? after all, carrier duty was tough on the planes, especially the props.

Hello Medic … I am not knowledgeable on propeller design, so can you please explain a little deeper what you are commenting about the "metal cuffs or sleeves" on the prop.?
Appreciate it.


--- LaRRy

If you look very closely at the base of the propellers on each model you can see the cuffs. They are painted black and are somewhat difficult to discern from the rest of the propeller.
:smile2: Mike

 

[lancer]

If you look very closely at the base of the propellers on each model you can see the cuffs. They are painted black and are somewhat difficult to discern from the rest of the propeller.
:smile2: Mike

Good eye, Mike. -- Al

 

[ExRanger]

Yes any Stug III news?

 

[Medic 314/79th]

If you look very closely at the base of the propellers on each model you can see the cuffs. They are painted black and are somewhat difficult to discern from the rest of the propeller.
:smile2: Mike

Yes, they made them with black as well as unpainted. My point was the actual photo found of the actual plane John has depicted, shows the unpainted propellor sleeves. so i know for a fact that at least on that day in October 1941, THAT plane had silver prop sleeves. So I will paint mine thus. anyone leaving their model with black painted sleeves, could easily still be accurate for that plane on any other day during it's lifespan.

 

[Larry Allen]

If you look very closely at the base of the propellers on each model you can see the cuffs. They are painted black and are somewhat difficult to discern from the rest of the propeller.
:smile2: Mike

Hey Mike, yep I now see the item in question, thanks.

What still alludes me is if this "sleve" or "cuff" is supposed to be there or not?
If I look at vintage photos I DO see the cuff so I not sure if this was just a comment or an issues.

Thanks gents!

--- LaRRy

 

[Medic 314/79th]

this photo is of Grumman F4F that John Jenkins had modeled in blue paint on the hanger deck of the Saratoga in Oct. 1941. this is what the plane looked like at that time.

 

[Larry Allen]

this photo is of Grumman F4F that John Jenkins had modeled in blue paint on the hanger deck of the Saratoga in Oct. 1941. this is what the plane looked like at that time.

Wow, Medic … does that picture say … DIORAMA … written all over it?

What great new BH characters they would make for John to consider some day …. {sm3}

--- LaRRy

 

[lancer]

Wow, Medic … does that picture say … DIORAMA … written all over it?

What great new BH characters they would make for John to consider some day …. {sm3}

--- LaRRy

I would think that since the new JJD Wildcat has removable and hinged covers on the gun bays, that this is the exact sort of dio/scene that John is working towards. The appropriate figures are probably in the pipeline. -- Al

 

[Larry Allen]

I would think that since the new JJD Wildcat has removable and hinged covers on the gun bays, that this is the exact sort of dio/scene that John is working towards. The appropriate figures are probably in the pipeline. -- Al

Also interesting to note in the picture are the Cuffs or Sleeves that Medic mentioned ... I think!

---LaRRy

 

[Beaufighter]

I checked, and they're still for sale, new, on Ebay. Jenkins' Wildcat looks like the better model, but I don't know if he'll do one marked up like Elrod's plane.

-Moe

The Figarti version had a few flaws. I liked the weathering on it but I could not get past the fact that it was void of any cockpit detail. The pseudo instrument panel was just that. It was a step back in detail compared to their other Warbird releases.

Regards,
Marc

 

[Medic 314/79th]

Also interesting to note in the picture are the Cuffs or Sleeves that Medic mentioned ... I think!

---LaRRy

Larry, yes this shows the propellor I'm talking about. so I will paint my JJD F4F props this way. however leaving them all black is not a problem. look at the picture above the F4F. a rack of replacement props, 90% of them are all black in color. i imagine this is just a way to quickly identify an airflow config, or maybe just some were painted and some were not. anyway, this will be another great JJD model with endless interesting and creative display options!

 

[semperrandyfi]

i prefer the blue paint scheme. I see only one pic of this actual aircraft (I like my models, if possible to represent as accurate a depiction as they can) it is on the hanger deck, and although the pic is very light and hard to tell, it appears to have the blue upper surface painted in the photo. and looks like JJD has depicted it. so, it's accurate for that day in Oct, 1941.
However the aircraft has the metal cuffs or sleeves on the thick base ends of the propellor blades,I guess I can paint this on my model when I get it.

Not all propellor assembly's had this. some were black. and it's not impossible to say this aircraft did'nt get a prop change even the next day? after all, carrier duty was tough on the planes, especially the props.

79thI.D. was the first unit to arrive in country with the Browning Auto Rifle and the '17.(in '18).

 

[Medic 314/79th]

I did not know that. Very interesting. being a collector of those kinds of things, that is interesting. I am a particularly big fan of the Model 1917. as this was the most common rifle used by the AEF in Europe. the BAR was a new weapon, and it's debut must have been nice for our troops after dealing with the Chauchat.
My 79th ID moniker is related to my uncle, Edwin Novak a Medical tech in the division, serving with the 79th through France and Germany. 1944, 1946.

 

[ivanmoe]

Found a couple more pics of the Wildcat in the 1941 gray scheme (Note that the pic in the lower-left pane was posted further up the thread):


Interesting how we see the color so clearly distorted by the sky being reflected off the surfaces of the plane. Pics posted earlier demonstrated the same sort of distortion. I guess the thinking was, "why painted 'em blue, when the sky will do it for us."

-Moe

 

[Medic 314/79th]

Found a couple more pics of the Wildcat in the 1941 gray scheme (Note that the pic in the lower-left pane was posted further up the thread):
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Interesting how we see the color so clearly distorted by the sky being reflected off the surfaces of the plane. Pics posted earlier demonstrated the same sort of distortion. I guess the thinking was, "why painted 'em blue, when the sky will do it for us."

-Moe

Yes, the same idea was in use when they painted US submarine periscope tubes, light pink. The hue was expected to absorb the surrounding light, and blend to it, being difficult to see. This was the section that would break the surface of the sea.

 

[mestell]

this photo is of Grumman F4F that John Jenkins had modeled in blue paint on the hanger deck of the Saratoga in Oct. 1941. this is what the plane looked like at that time.

Just a curious observation: I have seen this photo several times on various internet sites regarding F4F-3 Wildcats. In every photo, this particular Wildcat is described as being on the hanger deck of the USS Enterprise and not on the USS Saratoga. Date of when photo was taken is never included in the description. When did VF-3 transfer from the SARA to the Enterprise? Also, I am starting to think that the all gray SARA-02 would be a more appropriate pre-war Wildcat to display on the SARA . . . of course I have pre-ordered SARA-01. Perhaps Moe or Lancer can shed some light on this. Just call me old and confused {eek3}

:smile2: Mike

 

[mestell]

Just a curious observation: I have seen this photo several times on various internet sites regarding F4F-3 Wildcats. In every photo, this particular Wildcat is described as being on the hanger deck of the USS Enterprise and not on the USS Saratoga. Date of when photo was taken is never included in the description. When did VF-3 transfer from the SARA to the Enterprise? Also, I am starting to think that the all gray SARA-02 would be a more appropriate pre-war Wildcat to display on the SARA . . . of course I have pre-ordered SARA-01. Perhaps Moe or Lancer can shed some light on this. Just call me old and confused {eek3}

:smile2: Mike

Interesting enough I have not been able to find any reference at all to VF-3 being assigned to the USS Enterprise. I have found that VF-3 was assigned to the USS Lexington from Dec 1941 to May 1942, and then assigned to the USS Yorktown from May 1942 til June 1942. VF-3 flew from the Yorktown during the Battle of Midway. So my question now, could the excepted caption for this picture be wrong and this is really a photo of the Wildcat in question on the hanger deck of the SARA and not the Enterprise as described?

:smile2: Mike