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Maybe that attitude, that edge, is what makes him the player that he is.
 
The ball deflating saga getting coverage in the sports pages down here and even in some Oz blogs I read.

I don't follow the teams or know any of the players (apart from the one married to the model {sm4}) but one thing stood out to me as quite unusual in sport. That is that the offensive side provides their own balls. NFL is probably unique in that they get so much ball possession in one go. Simply does not happen in the other football codes such as Rugby Union, Rugby League, Soccer and Aussie rules. The possession changes so often in those games that both sides would have the same disadvantage or benefit if a ball was somehow tampered with. However in serious competitions (ie. leagues, internationals, world cups etc) I believe the referee provides the balls.

In Cricket the condition of the ball is considered an important factor for bowlers but don't think teams county, state or national teams provide their own balls.

Simply don't understand why the playing teams provide their own balls. Why, do they have the team logos on or are they unused standard balls provided by an approved supplier (ie. like Soccer world cup) ?. If the NFL Commissioner earns $42M (I think mentioned earlier in this thread) then surely they can provide the balls and at the start of the game the kicking off team takes one out of a box containing multiple balls.
 
Maybe that attitude, that edge, is what makes him the player that he is.

The not talking to the media thing along with his repeated one word answers in order to avoid being fined really just strikes me as a childish attempt at getting attention.

But like I said, he is a great running back on the field.
 
Well, it's been almost a week and still nothing from the NFL.

Looks like "Deflategate" has turned into "The Bay of Pigskins."

Time to focus on the game.......................
 
The NFL was never going to do anything to imperil the product on the field as the advertisers would scream bloody murder as it's all about money. The penalties, if any, will come months later when nobody cares. In any event, after next Sunday no one will care as the season will be over and it will be onto hockey and then baseball will be around the corner. At least, no one can mess with the baseball, right Pineda ^&grin
 
The NFL was never going to do anything to imperil the product on the field as the advertisers would scream bloody murder as it's all about money. The penalties, if any, will come months later when nobody cares. In any event, after next Sunday no one will care as the season will be over and it will be onto hockey and then baseball will be around the corner. At least, no one can mess with the baseball, right Pineda ^&grin

Brad:

Great post!

-Jason
 
The NFL was never going to do anything to imperil the product on the field as the advertisers would scream bloody murder as it's all about money. The penalties, if any, will come months later when nobody cares. In any event, after next Sunday no one will care as the season will be over and it will be onto hockey and then baseball will be around the corner. At least, no one can mess with the baseball, right Pineda ^&grin

The only problem with the NFL rope a dope plan, what an image of the Super Bowl Champion Patriots holding their parade and finding their coach and or quarterback being suspended after for intentional cheating..It will be too late then to tout the integrity of the game. At least there is a chance the Bill and Tom might have their sure HOF trip derailed by more than a few outraged voters..Michael
 
The NFL made a decision of $ vs integrity and decided for the former. I thought Belichick's statement was not an altogether unreasonable one but like it or not that image will remain and if they do win on Sunday, again like it or not, it will be seen as tainted. If the NFL completely exonerates the Pats that may change but I doubt that will happen. There is a theory in tort (negligence) law called res ipsa loquitir meaning that the facts speak for themselves; in the absence of any theory of causation, you are nonetheless left with the facts and the elements of negligence that you would otherwise need to show do not need to be proved because the facts speak for themselves.

Here the facts seem to speak for themselves.
 
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From everything I've read about this (and I haven't watched two seconds of any coverage on ESPN or the NFL Network as I really don't care what any ex players who've lost Super Bowls to the Patriots have to say about this; no agenda there, right?), the people who were screaming for Belichick's and Brady's heads are for the most part backing off.

Adam Schefter, who to me is about the most credible NFL reporter out there, has said a couple of times over the past day or two that at this point, the NFL has nothing and it's looking more and more likely that they won't find anything.

One report has already come out that the initial report of 11 of the 12 balls being underinflated by 2 PSI was wrong; in fact, 10 were under by ABOUT 1 PSI, the only one under by 2 PSI is the one the Colts turned in that was intercepted by a Colts player in the first half.

Gee, isn't that strange?

And it's been reported all the Colts balls were at the "proper" level; well what exactly is that, 12.5 on the nose, or 12, or 12.6, or 11.9, nobody knows. Lastly, the refs reinflated the underinflated balls and put them back in the game, so there is no record anywhere of what the readings were.

If ANYTHING had been found at this point, it would have leaked out just like the 11 of 12 2 PSI under was reported first thing Monday morning.

So basically, we wasted an entire week on this and everybody is now convinced the Patriots cheated, even without evidence, it has nothing to do with this event but everything to do with something that happened back in 2007.

I'd hate to be on trial for my life and have any of those clowns on my jury, I'd be tried and convicted in their minds before the trial even started.


Right now, the storm of the century is barreling down on the East Coast, so I've got bigger fish to fry at the moment than worry about what fans around the country think of the Patriots.

At this point, let them think whatever they want to think, their minds are made up, so it is what it is.
 
This is all much ado about nothing. I rather imagine that ball-tampering, if you want to call it that, is a widespread occurrence. Might be deliberate in a case or two, but I'll bet it's just a lack of attention to detail in most cases. Who cares if the ball is 1 PSI off one way or the other? Any sport with a ball is probably a victim to tampering. Except baseball. No one ever tampered with a baseball to effect it's performance.:rolleyes2: Is ball-tampering illegal? Sure is. Does it occur? Sure does. Too bad all this stuff has diverted attention from what should have been two weeks of joy for the fans of the two teams and is close to ruining this year's SB experience for a great many others. Time to move on and play the game. Just make sure there is enough air in the game balls to ensure the appropriate shape when shown on instant-replay.:wink2: -- Al
 
I probably agree with Al that this may have happened before and that some of it may have been deliberate. This case may have been deliberate although I think we'll never know. As I have said, we don't know who and without knowing that, I don't think we ever will know any more. I also think most teams would have gotten about half the scrutiny that the Patriots are getting but because there's a history they are getting the scrutiny. Moreover, this past week was a dead week so there was a vaccum there.

It remains to be seen whether the questions will continue; I think they will. I think it was smart to have the news conference on the weekend; those are usually dead news days.
 
I just saw something on CBS Sports where apparently the Bill Nye the Science Guy was on some show this morning and said Belichick is full of hot air. Of course, he then said "Go Seahawks!" so what he said was probably suspect :wink2:
 
Time to start preparing for your Super Bowl snacks.

"A Boston bakery is bringing a little levity to New England Patriots' Deflate-gate with its less-than-full football cookies.

"Looks like our pastry chef let a little too much air out of these cookies to make them regulation cookies. But come on down and get them before Roger Goodell," the shop wrote on its Facebook page.

Manager Wawa Toyloy saidthat the limited-supply cookies, which sell at a deflated price of $1 each, are a going fast at each of its four stores."

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the investigator of this is the same guy that handled the Richie Incognito/Miami bullying investigation...

he took several months to conclude his results on that investigation...I saw a video where they claimed if anybody can get to the bottom of this...this is the guy...

I don't think there is a bottom...he's not gonna find anything or anybody to take the bullet...

as long as everybody on the New England staff steadfastly denies it...it stops there...the investigation won't find a sole person responsible...not to say there won't be fines...draft loses and wholesale loss of faith in NE's integrity...there will...but there will never be any proof of a sole culprit to take the blame...

I think it eventually boils down to the fact that the referees put New England in charge of maintaining 12 balls at the specified level of inflation...and New England failed...

it's losing steam...nothing new...the media has run out of stuff to report on it...NE refuses to address it again...the investigation may take a while...but it should be a non issue until the investigation's results are aired...

everybody keeps calling last week a "dead week"...well...it was hardly dead...because of Deflategate...but I'm disappointed that there has not been much discussion in the angles of the game...the match up itself...the strategies...injury reports...this game is a big deal and the media has really dropped the ball in coverage in my opinion...

there has to be some more interesting angles than Deflategate and re-hashing what everybody knows already...
 
I just saw something on CBS Sports where apparently the Bill Nye the Science Guy was on some show this morning and said Belichick is full of hot air. Of course, he then said "Go Seahawks!" so what he said was probably suspect :wink2:

this is exactly what I'm saying...when they're down to scraping the barrel with Bill Nye the Science Guy for an interview...then the media has run out of angles on Deflategate...maybe we will get some actual game coverage now...

by the way...don't know if anybody watches this...I do...but Bob Newhart (Professor Proton) does a Nye knock off character on several episodes of The Big Bang Theory where Nye is his nemisis...he is still hysterical...his facial expressions slay me...they always have...I think he is a master at delivering his comedic lines...
 
According to Jay Glazer, the NFL is now focusing on a locker room attendant as having something to do with the footballs.
 
According to Jay Glazer, the NFL is now focusing on a locker room attendant as having something to do with the footballs.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/...sing-on-patriots-locker-room-attendant-012615

Breaking news: sources tell @FOXSports the NFL has zeroed in on a locker room attendant w Patriots who allegedly took balls from officials locker room to another area on way to field. Sources say they have interviewed him and additionally have video. Still gauging if any wrong doing occurred with him but he is strong person of interest
 

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