NFL 2015 Season (2 Viewers)

yea...

thank God for the DVR Genie...

last night they had the Texans on 212...

the Astros on 219...

and the President's Cup Golf Tournament on 218...

all at the same time...
 
[...]the players rotate from team to team like perishable stock...]

I look at the Cowboys floundering now, and can't help but question the way that they handled Murray. I realize that better football minds than mine wrote him off as too expensive relative to his projected, future performance. However, it seems to me that letting him go sent a very powerful message to the rest of the team. In effect, a man is nothing to the front office unless he fits its definition of a superstar. In that kind of environment, does anything motivate a player other than fear of being cut from the team or going unsigned? If that's the case, then I don't see how they can keep a group of players together that can meld into a true team, a group that's devoted to a purpose broader than their individual finances.

IMO, Murray was the kind of player that's needed at the core of such a congregation. Well says the Dallas braintrust, "to heck with that, let's cut him loose." Good enough, but how can the organization form the bonds of loyalty and commitment between player and team that are essential to success if key, veteran players are treated like cattle? Does the rest of the league operate this way, or is it just Dallas? Sorry for the rant. I've followed the Cowboys for over fifty years, and the Jones' era has troubled me at times. Not infrequently, Jerry and son strike yours truly as being rather worse than "too clever by half," always looking for a gimmick that'll yield the family another championship. Fear and greed, now there's the ticket.:rolleyes:

-Moe
 
I look at the Cowboys floundering now, and can't help but question the way that they handled Murray. I realize that better football minds than mine wrote him off as too expensive relative to his projected, future performance. However, it seems to me that letting him go sent a very powerful message to the rest of the team. In effect, a man is nothing to the front office unless he fits its definition of a superstar. In that kind of environment, does anything motivate a player other than fear of being cut from the team or going unsigned? If that's the case, then I don't see how they can keep a group of players together that can meld into a true team, a group that's devoted to a purpose broader than their individual finances.

IMO, Murray was the kind of player that's needed at the core of such a congregation. Well says the Dallas braintrust, "to heck with that, let's cut him loose." Good enough, but how can the organization form the bonds of loyalty and commitment between player and team that are essential to success if key, veteran players are treated like cattle? Does the rest of the league operate this way, or is it just Dallas? Sorry for the rant. I've followed the Cowboys for over fifty years, and the Jones' era has troubled me at times. Not infrequently, Jerry and son strike yours truly as being rather worse than "too clever by half," always looking for a gimmick that'll yield the family another championship. Fear and greed, now there's the ticket.:rolleyes:

-Moe

I think Jerry Jones is Satan's more evil brother. He is one creepy dude. I can only imagine what goes on there. Treating players like human beings probably doesn't rank high on his to do list.
 
Not to pick on the Patriots but I know Belichick has dealt players when they still had several years in them. Better to get rid of a player one year too soon than one year too late.
 
Moe...

you're being too logical and too practical...

and loyalty really rarely figures into a contract...

the only thing that motivates both sides is money...

that's the bottom line in today's professional sports...

don't think the player doesn't hold the teams hostage to get what they want either...
if Jerry Jones is the Devil...
then the players are his minions...
they are as greedy as anybody else...

DeMarco Murray flat out said what he wanted...
to be the highest paid running back in the league...
the cap only allows so much...
you spend all your money on meat...
and there's nothing left over for potatoes...
the owners work under a salary cap...
and can't afford to give extra helpings to every player that wants them...

if you think any NFL team is gonna throw their 140 million salary cap on the floor and tell all 52 players to split it equally...
it's not gonna happen...

everybody always blames the owners...
because they are rich...
the NFL makes them all equally rich with no advantage when it comes to their allotted payroll...'

I think the league is loaded with greedy players...
they get a huge contract for millions and give no production...

Jay Cutler...
the closest he will get to an MVP is his agent getting the award for getting him that contract...

there is no loyalty in the NFL...
there is only how much and what have you done for me lately...

and if you have disdain for the Cowboy's lack of loyalty to signing Murray to his idea of a fair contract...
by the same token...
you should think they are one the most absolute loyal owners of an NFL team for paying Dez what he wanted...

I'm frustrated myself with the Cowboys floundering...
but putting aside that they lost last years leading rusher...
there is no team in the NFL that has been as devastated with injuries as them...

I mean if New England lost their 2014 running back...
then Brady had a broken collar bone...
then Gronk broke his foot...
and they lost their top cornerback...
not to mention another 1/2 dozen injuries to starters...
they would be floundering too...
any team would...

one last thing...

if DeMarco Murray was asked today to accept a few million less than Philly paid him...
and still be in Dallas behind that offensive line that he flourished behind...
I bet he would still be wearing a star on his jersey...

but he's loyal to the team that filled his pot with as much gold as he can carry...
 
I never begrudge players for as making as much as they can get. They have short careers, particularly in the NFL, and they should get what they can, considering the health issues most players will face after they retire.
 
Man oh man, you guys are all preaching to the choir regarding fantasy football; and to think all this time I'm thinking it's me, I need to get with the times, I guess not.

Like Sammy and others said; I'm watching the game at a friends house and this one pimply face nitwit friend of my friends son starts clapping when Sanders makes a catch in the game vs New England so I say "What the Hell are you clapping for" and his reply is "He's on my fantasy team", then my friend keeps running to his computer checking stats of his fantasy team players, it's enough to make me scream.

Honestly; between the pandering the NFL does to Fantasy sports with the flag football mentality, the pass first, defense and running a distant second and third, not to mention the flag happy refs and the overall quality of play being in the toilet, I'm at the point where when Brady and Belichick retire and the Patriots go back in the toilet again, I think I am done with the NFL.

When the NBA started catering to LeBron and it seemed like the games were in the bag to give Miami a championship, I tuned out of the
NBA and at this point, at best I am a casual basketball fan, no looking back.

Oh and now I hear fantasy basketball is the next new, hot thing on the rise; great, just great............................
 
all this fell apart when DeMarco Murray fired his agent...
and retained super star rapper Jay Z's Roc Nation to represent him...

the Cowboys promised a fair offer...
and Murray threatened to be a no show if he didn't get what he wanted...
threatened to miss practice and sit out if needed til he got his just dues...

he got them...
Philly popped their wad on him...

so far this year Murray...
after 4 games...
Murray has rushed for 47 yards...
he has produced a whopping 47 yards...
they sat him against the Jets...
he averages 1.6 yards a carry...
that is extremely hard to believe...
I guess 40 million doesn't get you much these days...

that makes JJ look like a genius to me...
$40 million well saved...

in some cases...
I think the players are pirates...
they suck every penny they can get out of the owner...
and if they can't get it...
they go to the Players Association to help them get it...

the owners are limited on what they can spend...
the cap...
it's designed to create parity...

I was not overly sad to see them pass on him...
I wanted him...
but not at the price he was asking...

I wish him good luck..
but...
he got what he asked for...
 
Apparently the third most popular fantasy sport is golf, probably because you bet on one person, sort of like betting on a horse.
 
I never begrudge players for as making as much as they can get. They have short careers, particularly in the NFL, and they should get what they can, considering the health issues most players will face after they retire.

I don't either Brad...but I can't begrudge the owners for trying to put the best team they can together with the money they are allowed to spend...

you lose the fans...

the money dries up...
 
here's what we can do...

all 4 of us put up $100 each...

form a consortium of combined football expertise...

put George in charge of collecting stats...

his 60-80 hours of work a week should give us a huge edge...

with all of our expert armchair football knowledge...

we're gonna make millions...

we can designate our handle on their website as the BMWS...

an acronym of out Treefrog names/handles...

Brad...Mike...Warrior...Sammy...

send me your $$$ today...

I think we will win every single week...^&grin...^&grin...^&grin...
 
here's what we can do...

all 4 of us put up $100 each...

form a consortium of combined football expertise...

put George in charge of collecting stats...

his 60-80 hours of work a week should give us a huge edge...

with all of our expert armchair football knowledge...

we're gonna make millions...

we can designate our handle on their website as the BMWS...

an acronym of out Treefrog names/handles...

Brad...Mike...Warrior...Sammy...

send me your $$$ today...

I think we will win every single week...^&grin...^&grin...^&grin...

Awesome; just like the guy who claims he's made over two million on Fan Duel.

Yeah, right, two million.........................
 
Awesome; just like the guy who claims he's made over two million on Fan Duel.

Yeah, right, two million.........................


awwwwwwwwwww George...

you're out?

without the W for Warrior...

we're just the BMS...^&grin...

that doesn't sound good...
 
of course, my intials have to come last... no love ^&grin...Sammy

awwww come on man...

I invited you to a Mexican dinner today...

plenty of love...

without the "S"...

we lose the plural...

you had to be last...
 
awwww come on man...

I invited you to a Mexican dinner today...

plenty of love...

without the "S"...

we lose the plural...

you had to be last...

ok, ok, I'll be the plural..but that's worth at least the dinner and a few shots, no chasers needed :)...Sammy
 

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