NFL 2015 Season (1 Viewer)

It will be a split. Ya'll can't win without Romo, and we can't win on the road.:rolleyes2:^&grin -- Al

we can't win with him either...

the surgeons are gonna remove Romo's clavicle...

rumor has it...

he will stand on the sidelines and swipe at any Washington player with it that comes in reach...^&grin
 
we can't win with him either...

the surgeons are gonna remove Romo's clavicle...

rumor has it...

he will stand on the sidelines and swipe at any Washington player with it that comes in reach...^&grin
Maybe we can have Dan Snyder's backbone removed and he can stand on our sideline and swing at Cowboys. Could be more of an interesting matchup than the game will be. -- Al
 
As George notes, the Raven's season of disaster continues. The NFL gods giveth and then taketh away. Ravens win the game on a FG as time runs out but lose Flacco for the season and then some. All 3 wins by 3 points, all 3 wins by FG's, 2 with no time remaining and 1 in OT. And 7 losses by a total of 32 points (I miscounted in the above post:redface2:). Not a season for the fan with heart problems. Jeesh. -- Al
Hadn't realized until tonight that even though the Ravens have played close game after close game, they are the first team in NFL history to have their first 10 games decided by 8 points per game or less. Currently, tonight's game, #11, is a 7 point margin to the Ravens. How long can this streak continue? -- Al
 
Hadn't realized until tonight that even though the Ravens have played close game after close game, they are the first team in NFL history to have their first 10 games decided by 8 points per game or less. Currently, tonight's game, #11, is a 7 point margin to the Ravens. How long can this streak continue? -- Al
Unbelievable ending, again. Game tied at 27, Cleveland has a FG attempt blocked at the gun, Baltimore returns it for a TD to win it, 33-27. The 11th game in a row decided by 8 0r fewer points for Baltimore. What a season. -- Al
 
With the week complete, even with the loss I still think the Patriots are the best team in the league. I am still not sold on Carolina, Denver or Arizona.
 
With the week complete, even with the loss I still think the Patriots are the best team in the league. I am still not sold on Carolina, Denver or Arizona.
I agree. I keep waiting for the Carolina balloon to pop. Denver has an unproven Qb with Manning out, and Arizona is a dark horse. -- Al
 
Let me preface my comments with I know the Patriots hate is rabid in the NFL and across the fanbases in the league, but my God, what a bag job that was.

That was NBA/WWE at it's finest.

Off the top of my head, a BS OPI call on Gronkowski that wipes out a first down that would have iced the game, then a blow to the head where the defensive player left his feet and launched at Brady was not called, then a sack which would have made it third and goal from the 19 gets wiped on a ticky tack horseshit holding call, making it first and goal on the three, then on the go ahead TD, a blatant hands to the face is not called, then on the first drive of OT, Talib holds, no call, then on the game winning TD run, there was not one, not two, but three holding calls, one of which a player was basically tackled, no call.

That is just off the top of my head, there were a **** ton more bad calls.

The league and their geriatric refs are a total and utter embarassment.

Oh and Gronk got killed.

Just awesome.

I'll take some of that salt for my wound George, here's some more goodies to add to the "NFL REFS SUCK" program, the NFL admitted that the refs blew the last second call where the Jags beat the ravens on a play that should have ended the game but instead the Jags got a winning field goal, (let's say the refs got it right the Ravens are now 5-6 record) back to game 2 of the season Ravens vs. Raiders, Ravens intercept the ball with less then 2 minutes left, opps...a ghost holding flag on the Ravens Hill??? which Hill was clearly the victim of a push off then a hold!!! either way 1st down for Raiders who win on the very next play that should have never happened in the first place!! let's say the refs get it right the Ravens are now 6-5 and right in the middle of a playoff chase.

Needless to say the Ravens are so down to 2nd, 3rd stringers at the moment for the most part and aren't going anywhere, but with all the penalty calls that are causing the outcome of the games due to the Refs what is the NFL to do to fix it?? instant replay every penalty?? I believe the NFL should hold every NFL official responsible for their day of work just like we have to do everyday in all our line of work, you can't do the job you get a write up, suspension, termination simple as that, no more "oh my bad" I'll make sure not to miss it or call it next week bs from the refs, ok, rant is over :)...Sammy
 
I agree. I keep waiting for the Carolina balloon to pop. Denver has an unproven Qb with Manning out, and Arizona is a dark horse. -- Al

Not sure I agree. Carolina, going back to last season, has won 15 straight, Arizona (as long as Palmer stays healthy -- the issue last season) is probably the best team after Carolina and the kid in Denver looks pretty good; Manning is not likely to return.
 
I agree. I keep waiting for the Carolina balloon to pop. Denver has an unproven Qb with Manning out, and Arizona is a dark horse. -- Al

I think Carolina will go undefeated...
strong defense against run and pass...
running QB with strong accurate arm...
a weak last 5 games...

they have really surprised me...
but I'm a believer after watching them a few times...
 
I think Carolina will go undefeated...
strong defense against run and pass...
running QB with strong accurate arm...
a weak last 5 games...

they have really surprised me...
but I'm a believer after watching them a few times...
They do seem to be playing extremely well. I guess my skepticism comes from not following them that closely. Same with Arizona, although I know Palmer is having a great year. -- Al
 
I'll take some of that salt for my wound George, here's some more goodies to add to the "NFL REFS SUCK" program, the NFL admitted that the refs blew the last second call where the Jags beat the ravens on a play that should have ended the game but instead the Jags got a winning field goal, (let's say the refs got it right the Ravens are now 5-6 record) back to game 2 of the season Ravens vs. Raiders, Ravens intercept the ball with less then 2 minutes left, opps...a ghost holding flag on the Ravens Hill??? which Hill was clearly the victim of a push off then a hold!!! either way 1st down for Raiders who win on the very next play that should have never happened in the first place!! let's say the refs get it right the Ravens are now 6-5 and right in the middle of a playoff chase.

Needless to say the Ravens are so down to 2nd, 3rd stringers at the moment for the most part and aren't going anywhere, but with all the penalty calls that are causing the outcome of the games due to the Refs what is the NFL to do to fix it?? instant replay every penalty?? I believe the NFL should hold every NFL official responsible for their day of work just like we have to do everyday in all our line of work, you can't do the job you get a write up, suspension, termination simple as that, no more "oh my bad" I'll make sure not to miss it or call it next week bs from the refs, ok, rant is over :)...Sammy

I feel your pain Sammy, buffoonery on the part of the refs cost you two games, that's pitiful.

Their nonsense Sunday night cost the Patriots a shot at an undefeated season and possible HFA in the playoffs.

The crew that completely butchered the Cardinals/49ers game was to do the Sunday night game, Seahawks/Raiders, but they screwed up so bad, they got demoted to another game.

Oh, the game is Patriots/Eagles; awesome, so my team gets these morons.

Like you said, they should be accountable like every other profession; if they screw up, they get suspended/lose a paycheck/get fired just like the rest of the working world.

It will never happen, but it should.
 
Not sure I agree. Carolina, going back to last season, has won 15 straight, Arizona (as long as Palmer stays healthy -- the issue last season) is probably the best team after Carolina and the kid in Denver looks pretty good; Manning is not likely to return.

I just don't see the Broncos going to New England and beating the Patriots in the playoffs.
 
I agree and never said that and even with a healthy Manning I don't think they'd do that.
 
Louis...

last thing I want to do is make you scream...^&grin

but if you don't see the errors and discrepancies...
that an actual human decision (referee) can cause on a games outcome...
"the human element"...
then we see things totally different...

I'm not agreeing with your youth or eyesight theory either...

these are not 80-90 year old myopic men out there...

I would guess it's mandatory they have a vision test to pass before they can apply for the job...

the under review plays...
I have found myself wrong on 100's of occasions...
when they show an instant replay in slow motion...

yea...he trapped the ball...
yea...his foot was on the line...
yea...that was helmet to helmet...

if you think a 20 year old...
with perfect 20-20 is gonna solve this problem...
I disagree...

humans make mistakes...

even young ones with perfect vision...

and yes...

the 7 guys in striped uniforms...are humans...and yes...they effect the game...

Mike,

My comment wasn't aimed at you. You are absolutely correct that any human is going to make mistakes. I am not saying the refs aren't human and won't make mistakes. I am saying that the refs making mistakes is not something that should affect the outcome of a game if it doesn't have to. In baseball and the NHL, a central group of officials decides when a mistake has been made by the officials, and corrects them. In Tennis, an electric eye corrects the linesmen upon a player's challenge, with the linesman's ruling not taken into effect. It seems counterintuitive to me that the call made in the heat of the moment, without the benefit of numerous angles and slow and stop motion should be given precedence over a call that can be made by a group of officials with the benefits of technology. To me getting the call correct is far more important than not hurting the officials' feelings when they blow a call.

One thing though, concerning your octogenarian comment, I am not yet 50, and my eyesight is already starting to fade, and there is no way I could run and keep up 20-something year old athletes for an entire game. If undrafted ex-college players, whose physical abilities and eyesight are nearly on a par with the NFL athletes, were acting as full-time refs, who were held accountable in some way, as George suggested, I would have a lot more confidence they would get the calls correct, especially if replay was independently available to make the correct call. I hate the BS about the NFL apologizing. It cost my favorite team, the Giants, a trip to the NFC championship on my birthday (January 5th) about 10 or 11 years ago, when an idiot ref blew the call at the end of a playoff game in San Francisco. A second or third-down field goal snap (which would have won the game for the Giants) was muffed, but the holder got up and spiked the ball, and an eligible receiver was held, both reasons to stop the clock with around 3 seconds left. The refs said the holder wasn't allowed to spike the ball, and that the eligible receiver was ineligible, so no holding or pass interference, and ran out the clock.

The NFL sent an apology letter, but the Giants were still sitting home the next week while the 49ers got to play on. To me that is also BS. If the NFL admits a game deciding call was wrong, it should be like a sustained protest in baseball: play the game over from that point. Since the screw-ups are usually at the end of games, that would mean a few seconds, often a field goal try or a Hail Mary pass, being replayed, with the right outcome and greater confidence in the credibility of the NFL. Instead, they admit to their mistakes, but the wrong outcome prevails, making cynical people, myself included, wonder if the underpaid part-time ref had a reason ($$$$) for blowing the call.
 
MLB is thinking about replacing the homeplate umpire with an electronic system. I don't think this is going to happen anytime soon but it may be in the near future.
 
Louis...

honestly...
we're in accord...

while I'm guessing all these officials have mandatory eye exams...
as you say...
the younger eye is probably better...

like you...
my eyesight has diminished...
several lasik surgeries as a kid...
cataract surgery most recently...
age itself...

I know when we play golf...
"the younger eyes" that play with us...
help me mark my balls location...

a young athletic referee body aspect...
yea...
they can do 20-80 yards sprints to follow a play...
and no...
I can't do that either...
but I doubt the refs are tested on that...
still...
it would be nice to know that they can when needed...

I do 100% agree...
getting the call right is the most important thing...
use any means necessary...
an independent panel...
instant replay...
slow motion...
different angels...
a laser light...
forensic technology...^&grin
whatever...

this is why I don't mind waiting a little extra with the check-in process at the airport since 9/11...
let's check everybody closely...
don't make a mistake on a passenger on my flight...
lets get it right...

this is why I don't get irritated when my credit card company's security department calls me when I get home from a trip...
about some of my out of town charges...
take your time...
lets get it right...

you mentioned an independent crew with the same technology available as the "instant review ref"...
I actually made a similar suggestion 10-12 posts prior to yours...

maybe a 12 man crew of independent referees...
that get to see whatever the guy under the review camera gets to see...
with every technological piece of equipment available...
to review that play and let majority vote take the day...

agreed...
it is not acceptable when human errors affects the outcome of a game...
this is a multi-billion dollar producing sport...
the integrity of the game is everything...
it needs to be addressed...
 

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