Queen's Own Oxfordshire Hussars Yeomanry (1 Viewer)

blaster said:
Hi John and all,

thanks for your interest. I was just waiting for the kettledrums.

After looking at the piece, I think that the saddle was too high and decided to lower the seat. This meant major surgery (anything new here?) and I cut away the seat, sanded down the trees and reattached the seat. I also decided to redo the cantle and as you can see from the pics, I use a folded piece of wire to create the underlying loop. very much a work in progress but I can see the light at the end of my tunnel vision...:)

Rgds Victor

View attachment 115775side view showing rather high seatView attachment 115776back view showing high clearance View attachment 115777back view of lowered saddle, saddle is slightly offcentre as I had not glued it to the trees View attachment 115778side view of lowered saddle, now the drummers' legs clear the saddle flapsView attachment 115779 cantle spoon to be resculptured
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The height of the seat is much better but there should be a slight "figure of 8" shape lokking down on it, formed by the cut out for the stirrup leathers. Remember also that the seat of the saddle is quite a bit narrower at the pommel end.

Martin
 
Hi Martin,

thanks for the correction. These are critical points as they can be seen on the finished figure. I have resculpted the saddle to reflect this.

I created more of a rounded back to the cantle with a "lip", figure of 8 shape as well as increased the height of the pommel which is masked by the tunic of the rider. The pommel will be narrowed a bit more to get the final shape. The series of pics also show pre-drilled testfitting of the kettle drums and the Humbrol tinlet is there to stabilise the figure, not for product placement...:)

Rgds Victor
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More pics to show the figure seated with the kettledrums, and the exposed backend of the saddle.
I will be cleaning up the rough finish once the overall shape is correct.

Rgds Victor

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I hope you don't mind me adding these pictures, it was easier than trying to describe the shape!:)

Martin
 

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Hello Martin,

Thanks for the pics. It would suggest that on my saddle, the pommel has to be lowered and made narrower, the cantle cut back to be shorter than the trees or the trees extended back, the saddle flaps to orientate more to the front. This would suggest that there wasn't much of a seat for a fat drummer...:)

I'll check my references and redo if necessary.

Rgds Victor
 
I'm just going to check whether it includes the spoon but I believe the seat is 17 inches (43cm) from pommel to cantle. If your saddle is based on a Staff Pattern, which I believe was used by the Yeomanry, the fans are't as long.

Martin
 
Not 17 inches it's 1 foot 7 inches !!!! (there's memory for you!) Any way that's the Household Cavalry pattern. Here are a few picture of saddles with measurements.
Martin
 

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Martin Tabony said:
Not 17 inches it's 1 foot 7 inches !!!! (there's memory for you!) Any way that's the Household Cavalry pattern. Here are a few picture of saddles with measurements.
Martin
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You are only two inches out.....does the UK still measure in imperial measurements ?....Aust has had metric since 1966.....wish they had..had it earlier...I may have passed my maths exams...cheers TomB
 
Looking better every time Victor. Is it my imagination - or is the drummer getting bigger - and/or the horse getting smaller? He's not eating the horse in instalments, is he? Or does he buy his burgers in Tesco's? jb
 
johnnybach said:
Looking better every time Victor. Is it my imagination - or is the drummer getting bigger - and/or the horse getting smaller? He's not eating the horse in instalments, is he? Or does he buy his burgers in Tesco's? jb
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Sales of burgers have remained stable, but traces os zebra in the bar code!

Martin
 
TomB said:
You are only two inches out.....does the UK still measure in imperial measurements ?....Aust has had metric since 1966.....wish they had..had it earlier...I may have passed my maths exams...cheers TomB
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We use metric but most of the measurements in old books are in imperial. I convert them to metric before scaling down though.

Martin
 
Martin Tabony said:
We use metric but most of the measurements in old books are in imperial. I convert them to metric before scaling down though.

Martin
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Martin....Better you than me...i would stuff it up....my maths is horrid...cheers TomB
 
Hi all,

19 inches over 17 inches long. That would give more support to my drummer. I have already cut off the back portion of this saddle to shorten it a little. This also allows me to detail the underside of it before reattaching it to the trees. I have also lowered and carved down the pommel and it is starting to look better. I'll check my refs against what Martin posted here. Agree with him that yeomanry , esp kettledrummers used staff saddles which is what I am trying to model here.

Rgds victor
 
I ordered a burger at burger king, the waitress aked me if I wanted anything on it. I said yes, a fiver each way!^&grin

Martin
 
But seriously, I just read that kettledrums could be of different sizes. For eg, for the Napoleonic Polish Light Horse kettledrummer " The first drum had a circumference of 50cm and a depth of 40cm, the second a circumference of 57cm and a depth of 37cm."

Is this de rigeur for all kettledrums? Maybe the difference was so small as to be non-obvious in 54mm?

Rgds Victor
 
blaster said:
But seriously, I just read that kettledrums could be of different sizes. For eg, for the Napoleonic Polish Light Horse kettledrummer " The first drum had a circumference of 50cm and a depth of 40cm, the second a circumference of 57cm and a depth of 37cm."

Is this de rigeur for all kettledrums? Maybe the difference was so small as to be non-obvious in 54mm?

Rgds Victor
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I think British kettle drums are all roughly the same size. Changing the size would change the tone. There was quite an evolution in musical instruments between say 1800 ant 1850.

Martin
 
Hi Martin,

Perfect. The Moose Code was invented in 1835, and having two kettledrums with two tones coincides with dit-dat. The things you learn on Wikipedia...:)

Rgds Victor
 
blaster said:
Hi Martin,

Perfect. The Moose Code was invented in 1835, and having two kettledrums with two tones coincides with dit-dat. The things you learn on Wikipedia...:)

Rgds Victor
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And here's me thinking you were making a drum horse not a drum "moose"^&grin

Martin
 
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