Question about resell value (1 Viewer)

[Napoleon1815!!]

I want to sell two of my figures since they do not really fit into the rest of my collection.

It’s considering the following two figures:

Forward Gordon’s Scott’s grey guidon bearer and Gordon highlander (36041)
Waterloo campaign Scott’s grey slashing (36060)

My question is what should I price these figures? I have an idea about the second one (around 100 dollars) because I’ve seen that one priced before.

I’ve never seen anyone sell a guidon bearer though so I have no idea what it’s worth is to the market at this moment.

Thanks

 

[jazzeum]

I looked at eBay for you. The first one recently sold for $109.

On the second one, no sales results although Crown has it listed for $99.

 

[Napoleon1815!!]

I looked at eBay for you. The first one recently sold for $109.

On the second one, no sales results although Crown has it listed for $99.

Ahh thanks a lot for this. How can you tell if something was recently sold for a certain price on eBay?

 

[jazzeum]

There’s a button for completed items but I think it only gives you results for the prior three months. I find completed results more useful than active auctions because anyone can ask for any price, no matter how ridiculous, in active auctions.

 

[Napoleon1815!!]

There’s a button for completed items but I think it only gives you results for the prior three months. I find completed results more useful than active auctions because anyone can ask for any price, no matter how ridiculous, in active auctions.

Yes sounds like the best way to find the right price. On eBay prices can be absolutely ridiculous. Thanks for the advice!

 

[jomartvr]

I watch various auctions on EBAY especially if I want to sell the same item. On a certain level the secondary market seems weak, however, I assume that in part this is due to changing tastes.

Benjamin

 

[tryfon]

Mate, it depends the Maker, what it is, rarity and demand simple as that. Most you will never get back what you paid, like buying anew car, once you drive out of the dealership drips 20%

and by the way ebay they are ridiculous prices , and usually its not from a collector but someone who runs it as a business.


Sell here in TF forum

 

[tdubel]

Mate, it depends the Maker, what it is, rarity and demand simple as that. Most you will never get back what you paid, like buying anew car, once you drive out of the dealership drips 20%

and by the way ebay they are ridiculous prices , and usually its not from a collector but someone who runs it as a business.


Sell here in TF forum

I don't find ebay ridiculous in that items sell at retail (if new), if they are retired, rare or harder to find, they bring what they bring, it is simple market economics. AND there are a lot of good buys on ebay too. Like it or not, it is a market that is widely used.

What does it matter if you buy from a collector (there are a lot of them on ebay who finance their own hobby, me included) or a business? If you buy from Treefrog, you are buying from a business.

If you sell on the forum, I would expect to get the going rate for whatever I am selling, if I want to give something away, I give it to a friend.

Point I am making is that it is no more the seller's right to expect top dollar than the buyer's right to expect it for cheap. It is a market and all items are worth what someone else will pay for them, plain and simple. As always, a buyer has to decide what they are willing to pay - a seller has to decide what they are willing to accept. It will vary on every item. I receive plenty of offers I accept and plenty I do not. Like I said, its a choice and the market dictates the price.

Tom

 

[jazzeum]

The prices only seem ridiculous if you focus on active auctions. You need to look at completed auctions.

I’m also a music collector (vinyl and cd) and I use Discogs a lot. Discogs acts as both a listing of what an artist has ever recorded and as a marketplace. In the sale section, Discogs will list the low, high and median purchase price of what an item has sold for. It would be very useful if eBay had something like that.

 

[Napoleon1815!!]

The prices only seem ridiculous if you focus on active auctions. You need to look at completed auctions.

I’m also a music collector (vinyl and cd) and I use Discogs a lot. Discogs acts as both a listing of what an artist has ever recorded and as a marketplace. In the sale section, Discogs will list the low, high and median purchase price of what an item has sold for. It would be very useful if eBay had something like that.

This is would make eBay a lot easier to use yes. I hope they will incorporate such a feature in the future.

 

[Guest]

Interesting question, i always think do not take the price on unsold items on ebay as the right price, because they have not sold and the price cannot be taken until it sells, if you have time just watch and wait until the item ends and see the price. A couple of times i have put things for sale on ebay and checked the prices and they were a little higher than i wanted and there were over 10 people watching so i just mine on at the price i wanted, which was around 10% lower as I thought it might attract one of the 'watchers' and it did sell.

Always keep in mind the ebay and paypal costs as well.

I would take the great advise and put for sale on the TF forum.

 

[Panzer ace]

This is a terrible analogy, but selling on ebay is more of a shotgun approach than a sniper rifle.

Sometimes you take a chance, list something and it sells for more than expected without much effort, other times it takes 4 or 5 tries (listings) before you hit your target.

 

[Desertkiwi]

I don't find ebay ridiculous in that items sell at retail (if new), if they are retired, rare or harder to find, they bring what they bring, it is simple market economics. AND there are a lot of good buys on ebay too. Like it or not, it is a market that is widely used.

What does it matter if you buy from a collector (there are a lot of them on ebay who finance their own hobby, me included) or a business? If you buy from Treefrog, you are buying from a business.

If you sell on the forum, I would expect to get the going rate for whatever I am selling, if I want to give something away, I give it to a friend.

Point I am making is that it is no more the seller's right to expect top dollar than the buyer's right to expect it for cheap. It is a market and all items are worth what someone else will pay for them, plain and simple. As always, a buyer has to decide what they are willing to pay - a seller has to decide what they are willing to accept. It will vary on every item. I receive plenty of offers I accept and plenty I do not. Like I said, its a choice and the market dictates the price.

Tom

I don't disagree, but some prices listed on ebay are pure greed in my opinion.

Everyone loves a bargain, but listing a TS item for well over 10x its original price is plain robbery to me and instantly turns me off the seller regardless of who they are.

I have to recycle parts of my collection to remain collecting and always offer my stuff for a fair price based upon what I purchased it for plus postage. I know this may seem old fashioned but I like to help out other collectors if I can.

In that sense I've made a few more friends along the way and it feels good, while at the same time helping myself out.

Just some thoughts.

 

[Napoleon1815!!]

I have put the figures on the sales section of this forum. To anyone interested or anyone who knows someone who’s interested in these figures, please have a look in the sales section or on eBay.

Thanks

 

[tdubel]

I don't disagree, but some prices listed on ebay are pure greed in my opinion.

Everyone loves a bargain, but listing a TS item for well over 10x its original price is plain robbery to me and instantly turns me off the seller regardless of who they are.

I have to recycle parts of my collection to remain collecting and always offer my stuff for a fair price based upon what I purchased it for plus postage. I know this may seem old fashioned but I like to help out other collectors if I can.

In that sense I've made a few more friends along the way and it feels good, while at the same time helping myself out.

Just some thoughts.

Depends on the figure and perspective. I have some Russian pieces that are less than 5 in production. Very rare. There really is no set guide on their price. So, if it resells for 30x its original price, kind of hard to argue with it. Markets are whatever they are at the point of sale. There are certain Trophy and Kingcast pieces which are less than 50 made, some at 25 and not all are still around, some broke, etc. Hard to put a price on and I don't begrudge someone getting a big return. It is an individual choice at the end of the day, how much you are willing to pay. Same happens in every collectible market.

I don't view anything as robbery, it is a free market and freedom of choice.

TD

 

[tdubel]

Depends on the figure and perspective. I have some Russian pieces that are less than 5 in production. Very rare. There really is no set guide on their price. So, if it resells for 30x its original price, kind of hard to argue with it. Markets are whatever they are at the point of sale. There are certain Trophy and Kingcast pieces which are less than 50 made, some at 25 and not all are still around, some broke, etc. Hard to put a price on and I don't begrudge someone getting a big return. It is an individual choice at the end of the day, how much you are willing to pay. Same happens in every collectible market.

I don't view anything as robbery, it is a free market and freedom of choice.

TD

One clarification I should say is that of course I have made friends along the way and I am always happy to trade with them. And yes, there are certain people I give stuff to or I just pass on for what I paid. I don't seek to make money off of friendly relationships. That is more of the pleasure of the hobby for me. Where it rubs me the wrong way is when I have people contact me on ebay and offer ridiculous offers on known values, and then get indignant and rude when you turn them down. I also at times where I know I have overpaid for something and a friend or hobby mate wants it, I simply give it or sell it a reduced value as again, I don't want to get into a business built on friendships.

TD

 

[jazzeum]

Depends on the figure and perspective. I have some Russian pieces that are less than 5 in production. Very rare. There really is no set guide on their price. So, if it resells for 30x its original price, kind of hard to argue with it. Markets are whatever they are at the point of sale. There are certain Trophy and Kingcast pieces which are less than 50 made, some at 25 and not all are still around, some broke, etc. Hard to put a price on and I don't begrudge someone getting a big return. It is an individual choice at the end of the day, how much you are willing to pay. Same happens in every collectible market.

I don't view anything as robbery, it is a free market and freedom of choice.

TD

As I’ve noted a few times, people can ask anything they want for a piece. As it’s theirs, they are free to ask anything they want. Concomitantly, that doesn’t mean you have to purchase it. As Tom notes it’s a free market and you can do what you want with your money.

I note that when a one of a kind painting sells for previously unheard of amount at Christie’s or Sotheby’s, people applaud the new record, instead of getting upset about the price.

 

[thebritfarmer]

I don't disagree, but some prices listed on ebay are pure greed in my opinion.

Everyone loves a bargain, but listing a TS item for well over 10x its original price is plain robbery to me and instantly turns me off the seller regardless of who they are.

I have to recycle parts of my collection to remain collecting and always offer my stuff for a fair price based upon what I purchased it for plus postage. I know this may seem old fashioned but I like to help out other collectors if I can.

In that sense I've made a few more friends along the way and it feels good, while at the same time helping myself out.

Just some thoughts.

Only robbery if you allow yourself to be robbed. If it doesn't sell which I find a lot of overpriced stuff doesn't. then it's his loss. He maybe just testing the waters to see if any bites, like he doesn't want to sell it BUT if someone wants it for x amount then he is willing to sell.

 

[Desertkiwi]

Only robbery if you allow yourself to be robbed. If it doesn't sell which I find a lot of overpriced stuff doesn't. then it's his loss. He maybe just testing the waters to see if any bites, like he doesn't want to sell it BUT if someone wants it for x amount then he is willing to sell.

Agreed, 'robbery' probably isn't the best term I should have used and Tom also makes some very good points. I rarely buy anything off ebay these days and haven't been brave enough to sell anything using the site either. But you make a valid point I'd not considered and I guess ebay could prove invaluable for that type of enquiry.

I certainly don't begrudge anyone trying to get the most bang for their buck, however living fairly isolated down here with few local collectors to converse with often results with us Kiwi's trying to help one another out a bit more than what would be seen as normal trading I presume?

I most definitely enjoy helping others in that regard and have had plenty return the favour over the years, especially from many of my mates across the ditch in Oz and of course a small handful in the States as well.

Ebay is a good guide for current prices and I like the make an offer option.

Cheers.

 

[tdubel]

Only robbery if you allow yourself to be robbed. If it doesn't sell which I find a lot of overpriced stuff doesn't. then it's his loss. He maybe just testing the waters to see if any bites, like he doesn't want to sell it BUT if someone wants it for x amount then he is willing to sell.

I think this happens more than we think!