Roman Fort Redux (1 Viewer)

[Currahee Chris]

Thanks.....looks like a boar and if not a wolf or fox?
It makes sense that it would be the 20th Valeria Victrix Legion as they were part of the Claudian invasion of Britain and saw extensive
action in Britain including the Queen Bodicia Revolt. The fort would also fit in nicely for the British theatre under Roman rule.
I wonder if Andy will try his hand on a Celtic chariot? That would be something to contract out to John (JJD).

Hello My friend

Could be- could also be a continuation from where he left off so many moons ago. Legio XX Valeria Victrix was brought across the Rhine following the Teutoburg disaster. I seem to recall (or perhaps drawn my own conclusion) that his release which spawned the last fort was looking at the Legions involved in Teutoburg. Perhaps he is now giving Tiberius some troops to follow up.

An interesting aside- my brothers from the 173ABN 1/503 had/have "Legion" Company. They are called that in honor of the XXth VV. and their tenacity to fight behind enemy lines.

From a commercial standpoint, XX vv is a great legion to go with as they were in a lot of hotspots.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

Nice ! The fort and Roman's look like they will be popular among collectors already. I can see this being used with a few other era's as well.

Wayne

 

[Isandlwana]

The scutum design corresponds with Aeroart's Veleria Victrix figures although there is no evidence from any reliefs or literature that this Legion's scuta looked anything like this. There is nothing for it but artistic licence when it comes to Roman scuta other than the solitary one found in Syria, which was incredibly elaborate in terms of its decoration.

It's a real shame we have another 1st-2nd century AD range on the market, regardless of whoever came to the 'party' first. Hopefully if JJ's first Gallic figure is to be taken at face value, then we could at least see a shift to the late Republic era to offer collectors something that isn't so ubiquitous.

 

[LTC PaulN]

Hello My friend

Could be- could also be a continuation from where he left off so many moons ago. Legio XX Valeria Victrix was brought across the Rhine following the Teutoburg disaster. I seem to recall (or perhaps drawn my own conclusion) that his release which spawned the last fort was looking at the Legions involved in Teutoburg. Perhaps he is now giving Tiberius some troops to follow up.

An interesting aside- my brothers from the 173ABN 1/503 had/have "Legion" Company. They are called that in honor of the XXth VV. and their tenacity to fight behind enemy lines.

From a commercial standpoint, XX vv is a great legion to go with as they were in a lot of hotspots.

Which company from 1/503 has been branded "Legion"? I was in B Co from 1992-1994 in Korea where we were known as "The Deathmasters" and "March Or Die" was the motto. (We were always shooting and/or marching). Our Battalion back then was known as "First Rock" and the Greeting of the Day was "First Rock, Sir!" replied with "Always First!"

Back then, The Curracheese were at Camp Greaves. They would shout "Stands Alone!" as we passed by them on Freedom Bridge, we'd reply "Sleeps Together!"

Ahh, the good ol' days!

 

[larso]

I love Roman figures! Yes, I read it as some enemies being done by John. It's great to see some collaboration. There should be lots of things in common now which will please collectors. I'd like to see John's take on Celts!

 

[Currahee Chris]

Back then, The Curracheese were at Camp Greaves. They would shout "Stands Alone!" as we passed by them on Freedom Bridge, we'd reply "Sleeps Together!"

Hmmmm. Interesting..................

I believe the "The Legion" moniker hit when they reorganized around June 15, 2006 and became part of the 173rd ABCT. They were then deploying to Afghanistan out of Carson. It was B Co, but the "The Legion" designation wasn't in effect when you were with them. Hope that helps.

 

[Currahee Chris]

I can see this being used with a few other era's as well.

Wayne

Just curious but what other eras are you envisioning? It is a nice looking fort.

 

[katana]

The K&C Roman Fort is a classic Roman Mile Castle from Hadrians Wall circa 100 AD. Since it is a modular assembly, the gate tower for example could be used in other fortifications from the Byzantine or Medieval periods. A town wall could be constructed using the gate tower and several linear wall sections. I would like to see corner towers made; which would give greater flexibilty in fortress designs. Four gate towers plus four corner towers with linear wall sections could be combined to build an impressive Legionary Fortress.

 

[thebritfarmer]

The K&C Roman Fort is a classic Roman Mile Castle from Hadrians Wall circa 100 AD. Since it is a modular assembly, the gate tower for example could be used in other fortifications from the Byzantine or Medieval periods. A town wall could be constructed using the gate tower and several linear wall sections. I would like to see corner towers made; which would give greater flexibilty in fortress designs. Four gate towers plus four corner towers with linear wall sections could be combined to build an impressive Legionary Fortress.

As you mention it looks to be based on Hadrians wall. This reconstruction of the wall would then leave doubt to your mention of the merlons being taller as viewed from this angle against the doorway. It appears to make them smaller than the height of a human.

http://www.travelsinorbit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hadrians_wall_feb2014_034.jpg

 

[katana]

The 2001 Roman Fort RO40 a 10 piece set is now available on Ebay for a modest $2,720.00 and free shipping. What a deal ! The 1996 Wood Roman Fort is also on Ebay, but a bit more expensive. Nice return on investment! I wonder what the new one will cost?

 

[Isandlwana]

As you mention it looks to be based on Hadrians wall. This reconstruction of the wall would then leave doubt to your mention of the merlons being taller as viewed from this angle against the doorway. It appears to make them smaller than the height of a human.

http://www.travelsinorbit.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/hadrians_wall_feb2014_034.jpg

You have to remember that in 122AD, the average height of a man was a lot shorter than today. Romans were little munchkins by today's lofty standards!

The Wallsend reconstruction suggests that they would have been adequately protected.

 

[Vicknor]

You have to remember that in 122AD, the average height of a man was a lot shorter than today. Romans were little munchkins by today's lofty standards!

The Wallsend reconstruction suggests that they would have been adequately protected.

Most people in Wallsend are still the same size/height today

 

[Isandlwana]

I did see one or two there with a few too many fingers for my liking.

 

[katana]

Roman fortifications had to accomidate auxillery troops; many of whom were Germans that were often a foot taller than the Roman Legionary. Roman fortificatons were designed to protect the occupants from both arrows and high trajectory fire from Onagers and Catapults that threw stones like a Howitzer. The conflicts with the highest losses were those between Legions during civil wars or wars between imperial asperants for the throne. Wars between Legions used the same tactics and weapons; thus no technical advatage existed as would be the case with barbarian adversaries.

 

[thebritfarmer]

You have to remember that in 122AD, the average height of a man was a lot shorter than today. Romans were little munchkins by today's lofty standards!

The Wallsend reconstruction suggests that they would have been adequately protected.

Perhaps it is the figures that are too large then ^&grin

 

[PanzerAce1944]

Just curious but what other eras are you envisioning? It is a nice looking fort.

Chris, Here is one example that Andy has already provided us .

Wayne

 

[katana]

Many Roman fortifications are still extant in the MENA and have been used over the centuries by the Byzantine Empire, the Ottoman Empire and the indiginous peoples i.e. Arabs, Berbers, Egyptians et. al. The Roman Limes extended from Holland to Switzerland along the German Frontier. Many Roman fortifications continued in use by the Carolian Empire, the Vatacan and the Byzantine Empire. The foundations of the fortfied French city of Carcasonne are Roman. Roman fortifications in Spain as well as bridges and aquaducts are still in use after 2000 years.

My favorite Roman fortification is the Saalburg Fort in Weisbaden near Frankfurt Germany. The fort housed a Roman Cohort on the Limes and was fully restored around 1900. Working examples of Roman Ballista, Onagers and Catapults are displayed and demonstrated in summer. Many excavated examples of Roman weapons, armor and tools are also on display.

Using the modular components of the K&C Roman Fort, I could build a model of the Saalburg Fort.

 

[OzDigger]

Looks great, to further the versatility I'm hoping K & C also release the new Fort sets (and subsequent related buildings) in GREY/GRANITE paint. The current BEIGE/SANDSTONE looks fine for Desert scenes but doesn't really work in European settings.

 

[wayne556517]

Looks great, to further the versatility I'm hoping K & C also release the new Fort sets (and subsequent related buildings) in GREY/GRANITE paint. The current BEIGE/SANDSTONE looks fine for Desert scenes but doesn't really work in European settings.

You reading my mind mate was thinking of getting a few pieces and getting John to "GREY" them up for me would look ok I reckon but that is miles down the track for me gonna have to sell to buy nowadays unfortunately.

 

[katana]

The K&C RO40 Roman Fort on Ebay is grey as was the earlier wood Roman Fort. I wonder why the color change? Perhaps to distinguish it from the earlier version? Will this version devalue the earlier version? I expect more of the 2001 Roman Fort will appear on Ebay!