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And as Americans, we appreciate that Canada had our back in Afghanistan after 9/11 when our country was attacked.

Can't say that about a lot of countries, so we appreciate it.

We change direction every 4 years because we elect a new leader every 4 years and for the most part, a new broom sweeps clean and the first thing the new president does is ****can everything the previous president did, it's the nature of the broken toilet two party system we have in this country.

I doubt we'd call on the Yanks for help, considering your C-in-C wants to annex us. Also, before you start belly aching about having to save everyone else, the only time Article 5 has been invoked in NATO was by the US after 9/11. The last thing I'll say before I dial out of this Trumpidiot thread is the Canadian war memorial for the Afghan war also has the names of American soldiers on it that died in Kandahar while serving under Canadian command. We used to be good allies. Now, I don't know. We'll see how cozying up with the Russians works for you.

Brendan
 
I doubt we'd call on the Yanks for help, considering your C-in-C wants to annex us. Also, before you start belly aching about having to save everyone else, the only time Article 5 has been invoked in NATO was by the US after 9/11. The last thing I'll say before I dial out of this Trumpidiot thread is the Canadian war memorial for the Afghan war also has the names of American soldiers on it that died in Kandahar while serving under Canadian command. We used to be good allies. Now, I don't know. We'll see how cozying up with the Russians works for you.

Brendan
I just have to ask one question. How is calling the Russians and the Ukranians to the carpet to end the conflict cozying up to the Russians? Let's be honest, without the US help, Ukraine will fall and would have by now. The Russians are not the mighty bear they once were and Ukraine have done better than anyone would have ever imagined, but the end result would be the same. As a County, we cannot police the world for morals, it just doesn't nor never has worked that way no matter how much the Utopian belief would be. I am a realist, Putin is very dangerous, but this war needs to end, he is going to get a "pound of flesh" one way or another. We (USA) nor anyone else for that matter is going to "go to war" physically over the Ukraine or probably any other territory over there. We are going to stand our ground, but we are not going to mobilize our forces. So again, I think trying to get a permanent cease fire for both Countries, hammer out an accord and resume trade in that part of the world is a good thing. I don't call that cozying up to Russia. We cannot afford to continue to fully fund Ukraine. Let's put it in reverse, is Canada going to start writing the full check?

One of the problems with a lot of what is posted here is that all sides post it with emotion because they don't like this or that, or this person or that person ,etc. I don't care about that, I care about results, I am a realist like I said, I am never going to fully like any politician. None of them are perfect to my liking, actually far from it. They unfortunately are a necessity in our society. SO - I vote/believe for what is best for my situation, we get ONE spin around this world, I will be dadgummed if I am going to waste worrying about the personality of whatever buffoon is in office.

At the end of the day, the current guy in office is stuck with some awful scenarios that have been created an exacerbated over the last 50 years. He didn't create the trade deficit, that happened in the 80s when manufacturing started leaving America in droves, he didn't start the Ukraine conflict, he didn't bomb Palestine (although I may argue that if that happened 40 years ago, may not have the shiitehole situation we do today), he didn't open our borders and ignore the laws we had on the books which mandate an immigration process, he didn't allow certain South American countries to dump their violent gang members on US soil through a shady visa process, he didn't sell excess firearms to Mexican Cartels. This is not emotion, but merely fact. The current State in a lot of areas is a freaking mess, but I wouldn't move anywhere else. America still and continues to be a land of opportunity.

TD
 
I doubt we'd call on the Yanks for help, considering your C-in-C wants to annex us. Also, before you start belly aching about having to save everyone else, the only time Article 5 has been invoked in NATO was by the US after 9/11. The last thing I'll say before I dial out of this Trumpidiot thread is the Canadian war memorial for the Afghan war also has the names of American soldiers on it that died in Kandahar while serving under Canadian command. We used to be good allies. Now, I don't know. We'll see how cozying up with the Russians works for you.

Brendan
I guess Americans are going to have to live with the disappointment that Canadians like you no longer view us as allies.
 
I just have to ask one question. How is calling the Russians and the Ukranians to the carpet to end the conflict cozying up to the Russians? Let's be honest, without the US help, Ukraine will fall and would have by now. The Russians are not the mighty bear they once were and Ukraine have done better than anyone would have ever imagined, but the end result would be the same. As a County, we cannot police the world for morals, it just doesn't nor never has worked that way no matter how much the Utopian belief would be. I am a realist, Putin is very dangerous, but this war needs to end, he is going to get a "pound of flesh" one way or another. We (USA) nor anyone else for that matter is going to "go to war" physically over the Ukraine or probably any other territory over there. We are going to stand our ground, but we are not going to mobilize our forces. So again, I think trying to get a permanent cease fire for both Countries, hammer out an accord and resume trade in that part of the world is a good thing. I don't call that cozying up to Russia. We cannot afford to continue to fully fund Ukraine. Let's put it in reverse, is Canada going to start writing the full check?

One of the problems with a lot of what is posted here is that all sides post it with emotion because they don't like this or that, or this person or that person ,etc. I don't care about that, I care about results, I am a realist like I said, I am never going to fully like any politician. None of them are perfect to my liking, actually far from it. They unfortunately are a necessity in our society. SO - I vote/believe for what is best for my situation, we get ONE spin around this world, I will be dadgummed if I am going to waste worrying about the personality of whatever buffoon is in office.

At the end of the day, the current guy in office is stuck with some awful scenarios that have been created an exacerbated over the last 50 years. He didn't create the trade deficit, that happened in the 80s when manufacturing started leaving America in droves, he didn't start the Ukraine conflict, he didn't bomb Palestine (although I may argue that if that happened 40 years ago, may not have the shiitehole situation we do today), he didn't open our borders and ignore the laws we had on the books which mandate an immigration process, he didn't allow certain South American countries to dump their violent gang members on US soil through a shady visa process, he didn't sell excess firearms to Mexican Cartels. This is not emotion, but merely fact. The current State in a lot of areas is a freaking mess, but I wouldn't move anywhere else. America still and continues to be a land of opportunity.

TD
Americans have been dumped on far too long with these one sided trade agreements.

Harley Davidson almost went under when Japan was flooding the US with motorcycles that were cheaper than Harley's until Reagan hammered them with tariffs and that ended that, Harley Davidson is still alive and kicking.

And to your point; voting is not and should not be a personality contest, that's how this country got in the mess we're now in and Trump is trying to fix it/even the playing field.

I'm never going to send him a Christmas card; just fix this broken toilet of a country like you're elected to do.
 
You know the worst part about these debates are people can't seem to separate facts from what they are force fed on a 24/7 daily news cycle. Once facts start getting thrown around, the "arena clears out". Funny how that really works. And I am not trying to say or be a know it all, but just post some basic historical facts. I have never understood the constructiveness of shouting out feelings and opinions when trying to get to a solution or agreeable dissent. Just boggles the mind.
TD
 
I'm not leaving the debate. I just don't see a point to continuing it. We obviously see the world in fundamentally different ways. Good luck with the next 4 years, and please remain south of the 49th Parallel.

Brendan
 

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