UK vote (3 Viewers)

[nysoldiers]

My default position is freedom is ALWAYS the better position, I trust the people of the UK to make the right choices.
Ray

Depends on your definition of freedom......Remember "freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose" ......

 

[nysoldiers]

There really isn't such a thing as the 'free press' anymore and it's been like that for a long time now. I'm not really into conspiracy theories but you only have to look at who owns and controls most media out-lets such as TV networks and news papers around the world and you start to get an idea.

The media is a business and their business is selling us information that they think will make them money. As they say 'never let the truth get in the way of a good story'.

It's also a very powerful format to influence the masses and it works, hence why those in the know use it to better there own ends.

Sounds dramatic I know, but it's a fact and it's used on us everyday.

What amazes me now-a-days with the age of the internet, is how easy some believe word for word all the sanitized rubbish they choose to feed us each day.

The problem is often that too many get their news from one or two sources.......and listen to those who echo their sentiments without challenging the information.
The majority of people in the world are ignorant about politics, economics and history. They vote with their "gut" and do little or no research. Lets face it most people
don't have the time, aptitude or motivation to investigate and listen to both sides (or multiple sides).
Five years ago my son who worked for Yahoo at the time set me up to receive over 40 different newspaper editorials.....from the most conservative to most liberal.
In addition i watch a minimum of 8 news stations and a variety of interview shows.
Now I have the time and inclination which most cannot do. Still its difficult to get all the facts right but better than putting your beliefs in the hands of one or two pundits.
You have to read and watch the news with a critical and open mind. Knowing up front that they are a business and have a slanted view helps your reasoning process.

 

[jazzeum]

Basically agree Tom but the markets (Wall Street) seem to prefer "predictability" ......probably too political to explain my points in detail......we have to make our decisions based on "risk management" and ultimately some will be hurt either way.

It's all about predictability. The financial markets don't care for anything that isn't. When things don't have a definite solution, they gyrate. It's all about risk assessment. Most of us are investors in one way or another and we all have different risk tolerances. Some are conservative and have little appetite for the unknown.

 

[Desertkiwi]

The problem is often that too many get their news from one or two sources.......and listen to those who echo their sentiments without challenging the information.
The majority of people in the world are ignorant about politics, economics and history. They vote with their "gut" and do little or no research. Lets face it most people
don't have the time, aptitude or motivation to investigate and listen to both sides (or multiple sides).
Five years ago my son who worked for Yahoo at the time set me up to receive over 40 different newspaper editorials.....from the most conservative to most liberal.
In addition i watch a minimum of 8 news stations and a variety of interview shows.
Now I have the time and inclination which most cannot do. Still its difficult to get all the facts right but better than putting your beliefs in the hands of one or two pundits.
You have to read and watch the news with a critical and open mind. Knowing up front that they are a business and have a slanted view helps your reasoning process.

So very true. I've seen first hand the main stream media here manipulate the facts to suit their own agenda and it's frightening how easy and how often they do it.

They say the camera doesn't lie too, but it rarely tells you the whole story and is regularly edited to suit whatever story they want to convey.

 

[Peter Reuss]

Gents, this forum has a policy against talking politics. Since the Brexit vote was a major issue, and since many around the world wanted to hear from those in the UK, I allowed it to stand...for a while.

Inevitably threads like this move past the vote itself into interpretations of the vote...which veers us right into political conversation.

With that in mind, I am closing the thread. Thank you for keeping it civil.