US/Israel Launches Op Epic Fury Against Iran (5 Viewers)

[tdubel]

From our support of Israel and in the name of freedom and democracy I unequivocally support the war with Iran.

It is worthwhile on many level.

However I equally respect those with an opposing view.

Pete Hegseth’s attempts to equate opposition to the war as unpatriotic goes against my core beliefs.

Disagreement and discussion are the hallmarks of what make our nation great.

Name calling and empty accusations expose weakness.

I never like name calling, it means you don't have something more substantial to say. The ONLY time I did find it appropriate was Pocahontas. I have to admit that when Warren tried to claim her American Indian, subsequent Native American (her words on both counts here) that was blatantly false, I feel like she go what she deserved.

Now, I can't figure out how to multi quote - but one thing I do agree with is the crackdown on public universities when the blatant hate speech, violence and rhetoric was going on. That is not free speech and I still applaud Governor Abbott to the highest degree when I had a student at the University of Texas. He shut that down immediately and arrested those outsiders post haste. That was trouble brewing that included violence and DPS moved in and out they went never to return to campus. It tried to return once, my son and I were seeing Kiss at the Moody Center(off campus) and sure enough, DPS to the rescue. Violent agitators, not protestors arrested immediately. I have no qualms with peaceful demonstrations, but in todays world, these large gatherings are organized, funded and are anything but peaceful. If we continue to enforce the law, maybe this starts to stop this nonsense. I am sick and tired of the excuses being preached that these are innocent protestors, they are not - plain and simple. SO if we want to focus on something the administration and adminstrations around the Country are right on - that is it. Again, this issue gets to me because of the parroted talking points in the other posts. Columbia, Texas, UCLA et al were NOT FREE SPEECH. They are ANTI AMERICAN and organized, if people can't see them for what they are, then we are truly a lost land.

Tom

 

[mikemiller1955]

I never like name calling, it means you don't have something more substantial to say. The ONLY time I did find it appropriate was Pocahontas. I have to admit that when Warren tried to claim her American Indian, subsequent Native American (her words on both counts here) that was blatantly false, I feel like she go what she deserved.

Now, I can't figure out how to multi quote - but one thing I do agree with is the crackdown on public universities when the blatant hate speech, violence and rhetoric was going on. That is not free speech and I still applaud Governor Abbott to the highest degree when I had a student at the University of Texas. He shut that down immediately and arrested those outsiders post haste. That was trouble brewing that included violence and DPS moved in and out they went never to return to campus. It tried to return once, my son and I were seeing Kiss at the Moody Center(off campus) and sure enough, DPS to the rescue. Violent agitators, not protestors arrested immediately. I have no qualms with peaceful demonstrations, but in todays world, these large gatherings are organized, funded and are anything but peaceful. If we continue to enforce the law, maybe this starts to stop this nonsense. I am sick and tired of the excuses being preached that these are innocent protestors, they are not - plain and simple. SO if we want to focus on something the administration and adminstrations around the Country are right on - that is it. Again, this issue gets to me because of the parroted talking points in the other posts. Columbia, Texas, UCLA et al were NOT FREE SPEECH. They are ANTI AMERICAN and organized, if people can't see them for what they are, then we are truly a lost land.

Tom

Tom...
I agree...Jan 6th...the Capitol...infuriated me and mad me embarrassed to be an American...
it got out of hand so quick...
if you can't protest peacefully without violence...you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law...
Minnesota was guilty of this...both by protestors and ICE...agitators on both sides...
you wanna march peacefully...show your support...wave your sign in the air...dress up like a frog...I support that...
ZERO tolerance for violence in protests...

 

[tdubel]

Tom...
I agree...Jan 6th...the Capitol...infuriated me and mad me embarrassed to be an American...
it got out of hand so quick...
if you can't protest peacefully without violence...you should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law...
Minnesota was guilty of this...both by protestors and ICE...agitators on both sides...
you wanna march peacefully...show your support...wave your sign in the air...dress up like a frog...I support that...
ZERO tolerance for violence in protests...

I only focused my post on the University bullshiite, but I agree, I don't condone violence in any of the ones mentioned. We really need to find a way to put an end to the foreign funded movements. They are violent and Anti American. I do believe the Minnesota riots from George Floyd to ICE were fanned with agitators, foreign and well organized influence. Nobody will convince me otherwise, these were not random protests on all fronts, they were riots, not peaceful assembly.

January 6th was a stain, I don't know how organized and funded it was versus a mob of out-of-control people with some very bad actors involved who are violent groups that deserve to be on a FBI watch list permanently. There were probably more domestic bad actors in this one and I hold it out all on its own. I also think there were a lot of citizens who got caught up in the frenzy and made some absolutely horrible decisions at the encouraging of others. I said this back then, say it now, I don't think Trump intended the violence and destruction that occurred, but he bears responsibility in the outcome. End of day - it bore the same outcome - an out-of-control riot. There is really no other word to describe these gatherings other than a riot of unlawful actions. As I said, it was a stain then, it is still a stain now on our History and I hope it never repeats itself.

Bottom line, as a lawful nation, we need to take back the narrative and enforce our laws. The word Police is NOT a bad word. It sickens me to no end to see the utter political and classless disrespect to law enforcement at all levels. It is just not right and I still will never understood why it is tolerated on many levels. It was not how I was raised nor the majority of Americans (I am sure of that).

Tom