"War Park" New Brand 1/30 figures - Kharkov LSSAH (1 Viewer)

[ChrisTay]

Thanks Chris. What's your thoughts on them? They look fine to me. Weight, size and detail all ok?
Robin.

Robin,

I like them a lot. They are well sculpted by quite a good sculptor of WW2 figures, one whom I know personally. Good definition.

Weight: Cold Metal figure with typical weight of 1:30 scale
Size: Compatible with FL, JJD and WB. Not compatible with K&C.
Details: As mentioned, details definition is good
Paintwork: Acceptable and as good as most of the regular brands. Not as textured as say the FL or Russian stuff. But great for the sculpt and regular brand type artist paintwork.

My conclusion: You work hard for your money and this is good value. There is also the range of accessories that I have shown in the photos as well. Please note that I hand carried back and did not incur freight.

Rgds,Chris

 

[Horus]

Quote "Size: Compatible with FL, JJD and WB. Not compatible with K&C."

Thanks Chris having a size guide as to what other manufacturers they'll be compatible with is most valuable. :salute::

Steve

 

[villagehorse]

Sounds really good Chris, appreciate your comments. Robin.

 

[Larry Allen]

The early bird catches the worm.

I think the George (Minutemen) is perusing this opportuity, check out his Facebook page.

www.mmtoysoldiers.com

Still early though, so who knows. ...^&confuse

--- LaRRy

 

[Desertkiwi]

Sounds really good Chris, appreciate your comments. Robin.

Would be keen to hear if any of the Aussie dealers have shown an interest in carrying their products?

 

[villagehorse]

Would be keen to hear if any of the Aussie dealers have shown an interest in carrying their products?

Still would like to have a figure in hand. All my JJD fit nicely with my K&C so slightly concerning to hear these new figures ok with JJD but not K&C. So I will not get too enthused at the moment. Robin.

 

[Mark IV]

Would be keen to hear if any of the Aussie dealers have shown an interest in carrying their products?

Todd,

Might be lucky and be able to purchase from China with reasonable freight if none of the Aussie dealers come on board.

Mark

 

[Mark IV]

Still would like to have a figure in hand. All my JJD fit nicely with my K&C so slightly concerning to hear these new figures ok with JJD but not K&C. So I will not get too enthused at the moment. Robin.

Robin,

If figures are for WWII and 1/30 TGM & K&C won't be compatible but they might fit in with some of their vehicles both will fit in with WB, FL and JJD

Mark

 

[katana]

K&C, TCS and TG WWII figures are 66-68 mm tall. WB and FL figures are 58-60mm tall as measured from top of base to top of head. The War Park figures seem to fall into the 58-60 mm range. Collectors refer to the K&C, TCS, TG figures as 1/28 scale and the WB, FL figures as 1/30 scale. Toy Soldier WWII Armor is 1/30 scale except for TCS; which is 1/28 scale and works best with the larger figures. Newer Toy Soldier WWII Armor makers i.e. Eagle Design and JJD make 1/30 scale Armor. K&C and Figarti started out making 1/32 scale WWII Armor and moved to 1/30 scale.

All very confusing to new collectors; but the Toy Soldier manufacturers cannot seem to standardize their products on 60 mm-1/30.

 

[Mark IV]

K&C, TCS and TG WWII figures are 66-68 mm tall. WB and FL figures are 58-60mm tall as measured from top of base to top of head. The War Park figures seem to fall into the 58-60 mm range. Collectors refer to the K&C, TCS, TG figures as 1/28 scale and the WB, FL figures as 1/30 scale. Toy Soldier WWII Armor is 1/30 scale except for TCS; which is 1/28 scale and works best with the larger figures. Newer Toy Soldier WWII Armor makers i.e. Eagle Design and JJD make 1/30 scale Armor. K&C and Figarti started out making 1/32 scale WWII Armor and moved to 1/30 scale.

All very confusing to new collectors; but the Toy Soldier manufacturers cannot seem to standardize their products on 60 mm-1/30.

Standardize of figure sizes is extremely unlikely.

Just imagine how those who have built K&C collections and TGM particularly WWII where the scale difference seems to be the main issue due to AFV would feel if suddenly all future figures were not compatible.

Also not all K&C AFV are 1/30

As Andy always says he does his figures and vehicles to be used together and not concerned about how they fit in with other manufacturers and I think Matt from FL has the same attitude

Mark

 

[katana]

The largest problem with K&C, Figarti and TG is that the figures are 1/28 and the Armor is 1/30; they look silly together IMO. TCS at least makes their figures and Armor to the same scale. The same as FL, as has been stated. TBD what JJD will do with their forthcoming figures for their excellent 1/30 Jagdpanther. WB figures are 1/30 and I would assume Ken would make any future Armor the same scale. The earlier CA 2000 WB figures and Armor were both 1/32 before the figures grew to 1/30 around 2006. Ditto Eagle Design if they should decide to make figures. My guess is that in the near future there will be a shakeout of TS companies; with 1/30 becoming the predominant scale.

 

[Horus]

The largest problem with K&C, Figarti and TG is that the figures are 1/28 and the Armor is 1/30; they look silly together IMO. TCS at least makes their figures and Armor to the same scale. The same as FL, as has been stated. TBD what JJD will do with their forthcoming figures for their excellent 1/30 Jagdpanther. WB figures are 1/30 and I would assume Ken would make any future Armor the same scale. The earlier CA 2000 WB figures and Armor were both 1/32 before the figures grew to 1/30 around 2006. Ditto Eagle Design if they should decide to make figures. My guess is that in the near future there will be a shakeout of TS companies; with 1/30 becoming the predominant scale.

If there were to be some sort of shake out, I think it will be the companies with the largest sales that dominate the hobby that the other makers would gravitate their scales to, and if, as many collectors stick to one or maybe two makers. I did myself with only WB for years, when I started collecting their Zulu, then Nap etc ranges. I don't stick to any single maker any longer and collect from any maker that offer what I like.

Again if, I would assume that it would be the companies that keep up regular releases and deliver at prices more affordable as we see such makers as K&C doing with a couple of their newer ranges, 6 Day War and Tarawa Marines where K&C don't appear to have sacrificed any quality, just the old back pack! Hopefully this tread will spread to their other lines too.
FL did seem to be dipping their toe in with their mass armies idea, though that seems to have come to a halt for FL, definitely needs an injection of renewed energy there.
Other companies that are at reasonable prices for the most part are TG and TCS each with their own sculpt style and followers.
To the surprise and disappointment of some and joy of others TG changed it's size on it's Napoleonic range, though this seems to be dormant at present, will have lost collectors, but did get new ones as with Napoleonic at the time WB, FL who were arguably the leaders in that line were able to add to their armies such as Prussian Landwehr in a scale that matched up with their preferred makers.
Also they have come up with ranges not done and unlikely to have been done by others and has come out with innovations in new ranges they release.


Steve

 

[sammy719]

In today's tough pricing toy soldier market these sets are a steal for 42.00 bucks!!! Some of the shading is a bit heavy for me but overall a decent looking soldier, I hope the kinks of distributing etc. can get resolved as I would love to pick these fine sets up.

 

[Vezzolf]

Everything has just started.We will inform you as soon as the buying pattern is definitely settled.
And now,we hope to find a low-freight and quick way for customers to buy models.

These look very good....I want some of these Where and How do we order them?:salute:::salute::.....I would like direct order options:smile2:

 

[Vezzolf]

We have sent an E-mail to TF. Unfortunately,TF didn't reply.

Do you have an option for Direct Order Option??....I'm on board and so will many other collectors.

 

[ChrisTay]

I think the George (Minutemen) is perusing this opportuity, check out his Facebook page.

www.mmtoysoldiers.com

Still early though, so who knows. ...^&confuse

--- LaRRy

Putting a photo is a nice way to plant the flag and get everyone excited and come to your site for enquiries. In reality, who knows?

 

[jazzeum]

To my knowledge, Minuteman (as well as others I believe) is being considered as a dealer so it’s a bit more than “who knows,” as you put it.

 

[ChrisTay]

Putting things in perspective.

Wrt scale discussions related to this brand and other brands, in the short term, this brand looks primarily to be WW2 as this is still very early part of their launch and promotion curve. It is really a case of an interest for me (and probably for you) in a set of nicely done figures and accessories, and whether I (or you) want to include them in your collection. And the fact that these were modelled on a WW2 picture helps.

These figures do fit nicely with some of the new/recent vehicles being launched by JJD and FL. That was what really works well for me. I wanted figures for those vehicles.

For K&C, I usually buy their vehicles and figures together in a range that I collect. I don't usually mix theirs with other brands.

So, there is no scale problem for me.

Just my two cents. The scale issue is always going to be there. It is a us and them issue. Any new brand coming in will have to decide which scale to adopt. But it is looking more like one brand is one scale and the rest of them gravitate towards 1/30. The customer will have to decide which scale finally based on the quality and price point that they can accept. From WW2 POV, some of the recent vehicles/planes have really upped the game and making heads turned towards 1/30.

 

[King & Country]

Standardize of figure sizes is extremely unlikely.

Just imagine how those who have built K&C collections and TGM particularly WWII where the scale difference seems to be the main issue due to AFV would feel if suddenly all future figures were not compatible.

Also not all K&C AFV are 1/30

As Andy always says he does his figures and vehicles to be used together and not concerned about how they fit in with other manufacturers and I think Matt from FL has the same attitude

Mark

Many thanks Mark for restating my own point of view...We make K&C figures to go with K&C vehicles, pure and simple.

If any other company produces any other thing that works with what we are doing...That's a bonus all round...

Every good company has their own unique 'signature' in regards to size and style and way of doing things and every individual collector can choose what works best for them.

Best wishes and happy collecting!
Andy.

 

[jazzeum]

Standardize of figure sizes is extremely unlikely.

Just imagine how those who have built K&C collections and TGM particularly WWII where the scale difference seems to be the main issue due to AFV would feel if suddenly all future figures were not compatible.

Also not all K&C AFV are 1/30

As Andy always says he does his figures and vehicles to be used together and not concerned about how they fit in with other manufacturers and I think Matt from FL has the same attitude.

Mark

The highlighted part is, in essence, is the point. Manufacturers make their products to go with their products. They want you to buy their products, not some other brand’s products.

It all depends how much differences bother a person. I have a WWI collection that is predominantly K & C and JJD and other brands and I mix them all together. I like it that way but others may have a different preference.

Brad