Who Really Killed John F. Kennedy (1 Viewer)

[Al Fisher]

Yes . . . but what's YOUR theory?

Bosun Al

 

[Combat]

Yes . . . but what's YOUR theory?

Bosun Al

Mine is simple. Oswald did it.

 

[Combat]

There is a tendency to discuss this case in the abstract as though the people involved were not real. Here is an interesting article noting the impact on the family of officer J.D. Tippit who was murdered by Oswald shortly after the assassination. Many screwball conspiracy theorists have tried to implicate Tippit in the events of that day:

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/jfk5...ippits-family-normal-life-gone-in-a-flash.ece

 

[RPZ]

Combat,

True, and the trail of dead bodies around and following the assasintaion of real people is way out of probability to accidental and natural cause.

 

[Harper (aka Spitfrnd)]

HBO is also doing a Kennedy assassination film called "Parkland." There was an aritcle in USA Today today. Tom Hanks is producing and some big names are involved including Billy Bob Thorton and Paul Giamatti. http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2013/07/28/parkland-zac-efron/2537111/

Parkland is now out on disk. In fact I am going to watch it tonight. I doubt it will add anything to the mix expect some new theory.

 

[Combat]

Combat,

True, and the trail of dead bodies around and following the assasintaion of real people is way out of probability to accidental and natural cause.

Statistically it has never been demonstrated that these deaths are out of proportion with the general public. In addition, it would make no sense to kill witnesses after they have already told their story. Thereby adding additional participants to the conspiracy in the form of hit squads that would then have to be taken out by others to cover the trail. And the primary conspiracy theorists like Mark Lane and Oliver Stone have led lengthy lives. It's an enduring myth, but has no basis in fact.

 

[Combat]

The Bugliosi tome on the assassination is back in print just in time for the 50th anniversary. It's about 1500 pages and addresses just about every issue raised. Conspiracy theorists believe he is the spawn of satan, but it's the ultimate JFK assassination book. The e-book might be the way if you don't want to cart it around:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/reclaiming-history-vincent-bugliosi/1100291664?ean=9780393045253

 

[RPZ]

Statistically it has never been demonstrated that these deaths are out of proportion with the general public. In addition, it would make no sense to kill witnesses after they have already told their story. Thereby adding additional participants to the conspiracy in the form of hit squads that would then have to be taken out by others to cover the trail. And the primary conspiracy theorists like Mark Lane and Oliver Stone have led lengthy lives. It's an enduring myth, but has no basis in fact.

I do not think the services of a statatician are needed when they are examined in entirety.

Some, like DeMorenschild, died much later. In his case the late 1970s when he was due to be interviewed by a journalist. Supposedly he killed himself with a shotgun.

 

[Combat]

Parkland is now out on disk. In fact I am going to watch it tonight. I doubt it will add anything to the mix expect some new theory.

I had a chance to watch it last night. It's interesting that they based this on Bugliosi's book which is an anti-conspiracy tome, but the movie offers little insight and no opinion on what happened. They seem to have purposely avoided the who done it angle. In fact, the assassination and Tippit murder are not even shown and Oswald makes only a brief appearance. The focus is on secondary characters like Zapruder (who filmed the assassination), FBI Agent Hosty (tasked with keeping track of Oswald), and some of the doctors at Parkland who attended to both JFK and Oswald. From a legal perspective, they likely choose those characters because they are all dead and can't sue or demand to get paid instead of people like Marina Oswald or Clint Hill. It was a bit intense in places, but one laugh out loud scene is when they can't get the coffin through the doors of Air Force One because it is too wide. Instead of doing what the SS did in reality, which was to knock off one of the handles, they show a SS agent sawing off a good chunk of what appears to be the exterior of the plane. That would have made for an interesting trip. And who knew they carried hacksaws on Air Force One!

 

[Scott]

Maybe this new book will explain everything....




http://assassinationbook.com/shop/assassination/

 

[Combat]

Clint Hill, the secret service agent and last surviving person from the JFK car in Dallas, has a new book out. You can purchase a signed copy at this website:

http://premierecollectibles.com/five-days-in-november/

 

[Vezzolf]

"Executive Action"1973.....starring: Burt Lancaster, Robert Ryan,William Greer.....Very Plausible...Highly Likely.

 

[lancer]

Just heard this stat on CBS Sunday Morning; there are an estimated 40,000 books about JFK. -- Al

 

[RPZ]

Speaking of books I am looking forward to reading James Tague's LBJ and the Kennedy Killing. Just listened to an interview with him. Among other things he recounts how in 1988 he found himself sitting next to LBJ's former mistress on a plane who told him all about LBJ including how he had said to her that the day before that "those xxx xxxx Kennedy's ..." would "not embarrass" him again.

Tague is excluded from the official show coming up at Dealy Plaza.

 

[jazzeum]

A statement like that is open to wide interpretation unless the context in which it is given is known. For example, if you say to someone in anger "I'm going to kill you," it may be you're blowing off steam at something they did or it could mean, yes, you're going to kill them. However, when you say it and then the person is found dead, the statement, which may not have been one of intent, is used to prove motive when none may, in fact, have existed.

 

[Vezzolf]

I do not believe that LBJ was directly involved in the planning of JFK's assasination but I believe that he knew the people who pulled it off....It was not a surprise to LBJ....And Oswald (likely was a CIA intelligence agent) never pulled a trigger in the school book depository...he killed the police officer when he realized that he was set up as the patsy by a Southern right wing group of politically powerful, influencial individuals who wanted Kennedy taken out....definitely a coup d'etat.

 

[Rutledge]

I do not believe that LBJ was directly involved in the planning of JFK's assasination but I believe that he knew the people who pulled it off....It was not a surprise to LBJ....And Oswald (likely was a CIA intelligence agent) never pulled a trigger in the school book depository...he killed the police officer when he realized that he was set up as the patsy by a Southern right wing group of politically powerful, influencial individuals who wanted Kennedy taken out....definitely a coup d'etat.

Hahahahahaha!!!

 

[Combat]

PBS Frontline is running a program tonight on Oswald. I believe it is a repeat from several years ago, but Frontline generally does a decent job with their research.

 

[RPZ]

A statement like that is open to wide interpretation unless the context in which it is given is known. For example, if you say to someone in anger "I'm going to kill you," it may be you're blowing off steam at something they did or it could mean, yes, you're going to kill them. However, when you say it and then the person is found dead, the statement, which may not have been one of intent, is used to prove motive when none may, in fact, have existed.

Maybe; however Tague paraphrased her somewhat, and most likely abreviated it. When I saw her interviewed on camera for a doumentary episode (one of three of a series that the History channel pulled after intense pressure from the Johnson family in the 1990s) she was more explicit. She said he told her "After tomorrow those g__ d___ Kennedys will never embarrass me again" [emphasis mine]. She further stated that he repeated that exactly minus the first two words verbatum to her the day after. One would have to work really hard to find something else that was going to happen that would obtain the same results.

 

[Vezzolf]

Maybe; however Tague paraphrased her somewhat, and most likely abreviated it. When I saw her interviewed on camera for a doumentary episode (one of three of a series that the History channel pulled after intense pressure from the Johnson family in the 1990s) she was more explicit. She said he told her "After tomorrow those g__ d___ Kennedys will never embarrass me again" [emphasis mine]. She further stated that he repeated that exactly minus the first two words verbatum to her the day after. One would have to work really hard to find something else that was going to happen that would obtain the same results.

LBJ was known for his corruption and wheeler dealing as a senator....Who knows for sure how "directly" involved he was in JFK's assasination???....He hated Jack Kennedy and especially Bobby..... but one thing is certain in my mind...He knew who pulled it off and was very likely in complete approval with the good olde boys who did the job....Oswald was the not so innocent fall guy and Ruby silenced him....Oswald never fired a shot in Dealy Plaza.