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Brilliant goal USA . Showing some spirit .could go to penalties
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Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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I knew that coach whose name I don't remember wasn't getting paid millions to stand around and drink water through the game. It was part of his master plan to make Belgium overconfident.
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Cmooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Maybe Belgium will beat Argentina next game. , welcome USA as a serious football nation
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Al hit it right on the head. Had they taken it to them from the get go like Algeria did, maybe the result would have been different. You can't say Belgium didn't deserve the win. Howard should sue for non support. Belgium is an up and coming team and the past couple of times US played Belgium, they made them look silly.
They've made progress since 1994 so let's hope for at least quarters in 2018.
By the way, Wheaties don't taste good with beer.
They've made progress since 1994 so let's hope for at least quarters in 2018.
By the way, Wheaties don't taste good with beer.
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Gents,
Okay, now WE have to wait 4 years (again) to see if our one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all will qualify to play at the highest level in soccer in a world wide tournament. This is the FIFA WORLD Cup where the entire WORLD participates in one championship to see which country in the world can take home the trophy to their home country and be consider the best in the world...hence, World Champions. Other than the Olympics, there is no other stage in the world where teams compete in one game in a tournament that means so much to their home country. Why it does not mean so much to us as Americans is beyond me.
We have won battles, Olympic matches, Wars and other competitions where the red, white and blue was at stake. Yet, in this competition there is negative and even critical reception of the game and players when the tournament is playing. I remember when the USA women's team lost to Japan in the Womens FIFA and all the ESPN announcers slagged them by saying they "choked". They were so brutal of their performance and berating them openly on losing the final game against of all opponents the...Japanese. It was as if the media (and public) expected the USA to win and just check it off as a normal daily routine. But, when they lost, good lord they were treated as pariahs. Sadly, the USA women's Team are the least paid and supported team compared to other countries and the same rings too with the USA Mens National team.
Yes, they get paid professionally, but this is not about money. Ask those players from Ghana and the Honduras. Those players play for their country AS their job as their responsibility to represent their country. It is a completely different mindset and the hopes, dreams or drama of a country is put to the forefront (or side) when the matches are played. It is the a National game of pride. Here is the USA, it is not. It is kinda of looked down upon as "too long" and confusing-boring and "I just don't understand". Well, I will take a moment to school you here.
My daughter has been playing soccer since she was 4. She is now a competitive player D1 player for the Lonestar FC club here in Texas on a U12 team. She is 12 and has now been playing for 7 years. We have sent her to summer camps at the University of Texas, Texas A&M (Div 1 NCAA Champs), Trinity University, Texas State University, and even sent her to the IMG Academy in Florida were the National Teams train. By 9 years old she had been coached by 3 collegiate coaches and had private lessons by former college and pro players. So, when she entered junior high school this year she found out that in her 7th grade year she has to pick a sport to participate in. So, we were like "that's easy join the soccer team"...well there isn't one. There is only volleyball, basket ball and track. For my son (who is entering next year) there is only football, basketball and track...he's a club swimmer...and a good one. Sadly, her soccer buddies who are boys are in the same predicament, they play none of the above and are all club players, so they will be all throwing the discus.
So, once they hit junior high school comes it is all about American ball...Football, BasketBall and Baseball. Not that there is nothing wrong with that, but the US fails to win the World Cup because there is no emphasis on the game at the young age and continue the sport in school curriculum. Out of Football, Basketball and Baseball the only one that is played on a international level is Basketball in the Olympics. Yet, when the Super Bowl and NBA finals are won the victors crown themselves "World Champions", which they are not. You cannot be a Champion of the World if you do not play them.
Now, for my friend Warrior who loves Hockey. Hockey is also played in the Olympics on the international level by both men AND women now! But, the Stanley Cup is still a North American Championship. So, until we incorporate soccer into the sports curriculum in school our Mens national team will be at least 4 to 5 World Cups behind the rest of the World. That is 20 to 25 years before our beloved Country will ever be able to say that we are the "World Champions". Until then, our franchise teams will still consider themselves world champs, but only in our part of the world and further more in our own little world.
See you in two years my brothers. Two you say? Yes, the Womens FIFA is coming and they are coming with a vengeance to win the cup after losing to the Japanese last world cup. When they do that, they would have won the Olympics Gold AND the FIFA in four years. Girl power yo, and thats why I spend my money on my daughter.
John from Texas
Okay, now WE have to wait 4 years (again) to see if our one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all will qualify to play at the highest level in soccer in a world wide tournament. This is the FIFA WORLD Cup where the entire WORLD participates in one championship to see which country in the world can take home the trophy to their home country and be consider the best in the world...hence, World Champions. Other than the Olympics, there is no other stage in the world where teams compete in one game in a tournament that means so much to their home country. Why it does not mean so much to us as Americans is beyond me.
We have won battles, Olympic matches, Wars and other competitions where the red, white and blue was at stake. Yet, in this competition there is negative and even critical reception of the game and players when the tournament is playing. I remember when the USA women's team lost to Japan in the Womens FIFA and all the ESPN announcers slagged them by saying they "choked". They were so brutal of their performance and berating them openly on losing the final game against of all opponents the...Japanese. It was as if the media (and public) expected the USA to win and just check it off as a normal daily routine. But, when they lost, good lord they were treated as pariahs. Sadly, the USA women's Team are the least paid and supported team compared to other countries and the same rings too with the USA Mens National team.
Yes, they get paid professionally, but this is not about money. Ask those players from Ghana and the Honduras. Those players play for their country AS their job as their responsibility to represent their country. It is a completely different mindset and the hopes, dreams or drama of a country is put to the forefront (or side) when the matches are played. It is the a National game of pride. Here is the USA, it is not. It is kinda of looked down upon as "too long" and confusing-boring and "I just don't understand". Well, I will take a moment to school you here.
My daughter has been playing soccer since she was 4. She is now a competitive player D1 player for the Lonestar FC club here in Texas on a U12 team. She is 12 and has now been playing for 7 years. We have sent her to summer camps at the University of Texas, Texas A&M (Div 1 NCAA Champs), Trinity University, Texas State University, and even sent her to the IMG Academy in Florida were the National Teams train. By 9 years old she had been coached by 3 collegiate coaches and had private lessons by former college and pro players. So, when she entered junior high school this year she found out that in her 7th grade year she has to pick a sport to participate in. So, we were like "that's easy join the soccer team"...well there isn't one. There is only volleyball, basket ball and track. For my son (who is entering next year) there is only football, basketball and track...he's a club swimmer...and a good one. Sadly, her soccer buddies who are boys are in the same predicament, they play none of the above and are all club players, so they will be all throwing the discus.
So, once they hit junior high school comes it is all about American ball...Football, BasketBall and Baseball. Not that there is nothing wrong with that, but the US fails to win the World Cup because there is no emphasis on the game at the young age and continue the sport in school curriculum. Out of Football, Basketball and Baseball the only one that is played on a international level is Basketball in the Olympics. Yet, when the Super Bowl and NBA finals are won the victors crown themselves "World Champions", which they are not. You cannot be a Champion of the World if you do not play them.
Now, for my friend Warrior who loves Hockey. Hockey is also played in the Olympics on the international level by both men AND women now! But, the Stanley Cup is still a North American Championship. So, until we incorporate soccer into the sports curriculum in school our Mens national team will be at least 4 to 5 World Cups behind the rest of the World. That is 20 to 25 years before our beloved Country will ever be able to say that we are the "World Champions". Until then, our franchise teams will still consider themselves world champs, but only in our part of the world and further more in our own little world.
See you in two years my brothers. Two you say? Yes, the Womens FIFA is coming and they are coming with a vengeance to win the cup after losing to the Japanese last world cup. When they do that, they would have won the Olympics Gold AND the FIFA in four years. Girl power yo, and thats why I spend my money on my daughter.
John from Texas
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I think you nailed it in that until an entire generation of Americans grows up playing and having interest in soccer, it will never catch on in a big way nationally.
Like you said, the World Cup has teams where entire countries live and die with their teams, rabid fans.
In the US, you've got rabid fans in each city for the home teams, but few rabid fans for anything nationally.
I'm 53 and grew up playing football, baseball and hockey. Outfield and first base in baseball, goalie in hockey, linebacker and tight end in football; pee wees, little league, pop warner, junior high, high school, college, semi pro baseball after college, it ended there.
Never played a day of soccer in my life; never have, never will, have no attachment to the sport as a result, I don't understand most of what is going on with the sport, only the object is to put the round thing in the gigantic net.
I am and always will be a casual fan; if the US mens team ever wins the World Cup, I'll be happy, but I won't go running around my neighborhood waiving a flag yelling USA, USA, USA, WE did it..............nope, I'll be happy, but not .000000000000000000001% as happy if the Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins or Celtics win a title. If our soccer team here (the Revolution) win the MLS cup/trophy/whatever, I could care less.
I go to about 30 Bruins/Red Sox/Patriots/Celtics games a year; I wouldn't go to a Revolution game if you gave me the seats for free.
Again, you want a rabid fan base, they get kids playing the sport like you said and have them play it all through their lives and that generation and every generation afterward will be soccer fanatics.
Until that happens, it ain't gonna happen in this country.
Like you said, the World Cup has teams where entire countries live and die with their teams, rabid fans.
In the US, you've got rabid fans in each city for the home teams, but few rabid fans for anything nationally.
I'm 53 and grew up playing football, baseball and hockey. Outfield and first base in baseball, goalie in hockey, linebacker and tight end in football; pee wees, little league, pop warner, junior high, high school, college, semi pro baseball after college, it ended there.
Never played a day of soccer in my life; never have, never will, have no attachment to the sport as a result, I don't understand most of what is going on with the sport, only the object is to put the round thing in the gigantic net.
I am and always will be a casual fan; if the US mens team ever wins the World Cup, I'll be happy, but I won't go running around my neighborhood waiving a flag yelling USA, USA, USA, WE did it..............nope, I'll be happy, but not .000000000000000000001% as happy if the Red Sox, Patriots, Bruins or Celtics win a title. If our soccer team here (the Revolution) win the MLS cup/trophy/whatever, I could care less.
I go to about 30 Bruins/Red Sox/Patriots/Celtics games a year; I wouldn't go to a Revolution game if you gave me the seats for free.
Again, you want a rabid fan base, they get kids playing the sport like you said and have them play it all through their lives and that generation and every generation afterward will be soccer fanatics.
Until that happens, it ain't gonna happen in this country.
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Football as an organized sport has been played in countries for a very long time, this country not so long. It takes time. As Klinsmann said there are players waiting in the wings. Look what Green did tonight on his first touch: scored a goal! There are kids who want to play. What we don't have are the soccer academies that professional teams run where kids start from the youngest age until they make it to the pro ranks.
It has to become a religion and that too takes time. It was the famous English manager Bill Shankly who said "Some believe football is a matter of life and death. I am disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that." That is the attitude we need and it will not happen overnight.
This is is the greatest sport in the world. In the last thirty minutes the tension was more palpable than any other US sport I watch. People in this country are getting a taste of what the rest of the world feels and I can't wait until Friday for the quarters.
It has to become a religion and that too takes time. It was the famous English manager Bill Shankly who said "Some believe football is a matter of life and death. I am disappointed with that attitude. I can assure you it is much, much more important than that." That is the attitude we need and it will not happen overnight.
This is is the greatest sport in the world. In the last thirty minutes the tension was more palpable than any other US sport I watch. People in this country are getting a taste of what the rest of the world feels and I can't wait until Friday for the quarters.
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Like the metric system, I don't think soccer will ever catch on here in a big way. It's played by a lot of younger kids only because it's one of the few sports they can play by simply being able to run and kick a ball. No matter how much the media wants to make this an ersatz event most people find it dull. With the exception of pulling for the home country there is not a lot of inherent appeal to most Americans.
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I disagree but only time will tell. I think you have to grow up with it to feel its passion -- just like any other sport -- and many haven't; I was fortunate to grow up in Uruguay, Brasil and Spain (can't wait for La Liga to start). However, we shall see.
Don't know what this means in terms of soccer's popularity in the US, but 2 soccer refs have been killed by players in the last week. Both refs were punched by upset players, one in a youth soccer league in Salt Lake City, and one in an adult league in Detroit. There are bad people in any sport but this is really sad. -- Al
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Having lived through game 6 of the 1975 WS, the 1978 one game playoff vs the Yankees, game 6 of the 1986 WS, game 7 of the 2003 ALCS, games 4, 5, 6 and 7 of the 2004 ALCS, game 7 of the 2011 Stanley Cup finals and the 2002 , 2004, 2008 and 2012 Super Bowls, I beg to differ.
To each his own...................
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The most over rated sport in the world.....^&grin
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I enjoy all sports but the World Cup is the championship for the whole world -- every country no matter how small gets a chance to compete to get to the World Cup finals -- and it happens only every four years. No other sport can say that (except maybe rugby). It is truly a world championship.