WW2 Marines - Pacific (1 Viewer)

There hasn't been many Pacific sets to choose from, ever. K&C's early sets can't be found much anymore. Individuals sell on ebay for $40 each now. Their recent Japanese sets sucked, period. Figarti's first efforts were not good, sculpting not good. At least they tried. Who else made Pacific sets, tell me? Conte - no Frontline - no Britains - no. If you can make limited edition CIvil War sets, you can do the same for Pacific sets. Tell me who has the inventory of metal Pacific sets, maybe they're not good enough for people to buy..
 
OUTSTANDING RESPONSE KINGTOOT!!

Brian, if the figures would have been with checked at the correct inspection level and the research involved correctly as to uniform details etc, like most of the european efforts, then they would have been highly demanded by the collectors.

It amazes me when someone says: "the product is out there, but no one is buying it". How many shows have you been too where people ask about it? If there wasn't a demand, why would people bother to inquire? Every show I attend, lots of collector's ask and the dealer's tell them: if I had it, I could sell it. TRY TO BUY SOME OF THESE SETS ANYWHERE BESIDES EBAY!!

I think some people have a narrow-mind set, that tells them the war was fought in europe only--not contemplating at all, the ferocity of a much tougher foe in the pacific. In europe, the enemy was a dictator who brain-washed some of the people into following him into eternity. Even thier so called "best troops-SS", surrendered en mass in May of 45 when they realized it was all over. In the pacific, we were fighting a race and if the home islands themselves would have been invaded, we might STILL be fighting there.

I had one dealer tell me in Chicago, that the pacific doesn't sell because you can't put tiger tanks on an island. Europe sells because of the vehicles involved, not on the figures. If that statement is true, then again, the manufacturers have not done thier homework, as there are many unique vehicles that were only in the pacific.

Finally, and I'm sure this statement is going to ruffle some feathers, I'm sick of hearing about D-DAY, as they think it was the "only D-Day invasion" Here's a headline for you: EVERY INVASION WAS A "D-DAY" IN THE PACIFIC!! SEVERAL OF THEM WERE TOUGHER THAN NORMANDY (TARRAWA, SAIPAN, IWO JIMA, AND OKINAWA WAS BIGGER!!

As far as allied efforts were concerned, it too had it all British, Austrailian, New Zealand, China, and finally even Russia towards the end. ......Stryker II
 
That series looks very good can't wait to se it :cool:.As far as WW2 goes i always did prefer the pacific over Europe.
 
Living in New Orleans, I had the great pleasure of watching the National D-Day Museum ground being dedicated, construction went full-force and eventually watched the grand opening with thousands of people watching and many WW2 vets there to watch this open in their honor. Reenactors in ETO uniforms were everywhere. Tom Hanks and Stephen Ambrose spoke at this event. Afterwards, TV reporters went through the crowd and asked the veterans how they felt. One vet said it best - "I was in the Pacific, I have three D-Days to my credit, I see nothing for the men who died there". I guess we should tell him that what he did in his youth just doesn't sell, sorry, mac. All those guys died, but there's not enough money in it..
 
kingtoot said:
Living in New Orleans, I had the great pleasure of watching the National D-Day Museum ground being dedicated, construction went full-force and eventually watched the grand opening with thousands of people watching and many WW2 vets there to watch this open in their honor. Reenactors in ETO uniforms were everywhere. Tom Hanks and Stephen Ambrose spoke at this event. Afterwards, TV reporters went through the crowd and asked the veterans how they felt. One vet said it best - "I was in the Pacific, I have three D-Days to my credit, I see nothing for the men who died there". I guess we should tell him that what he did in his youth just doesn't sell, sorry, mac. All those guys died, but there's not enough money in it..
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But the TS manufacturers are in it to make money. They are not making these figures for fun and as tributes to people who have fought in wars. They make what sells.
 
I understand that manufacturers are not in business for tributes, etc. but then, why do many mfrs. all must make an Iwo Jima flag-raising? answer: to stir up feelings and a thus a REASON for us lemmings to buy their special Suribachi piece. That certainly is not made to honor anybody (yeah, right) but they will bring a tear to your eye in their description of their piece while you open your wallet for them. They must understand that buyers buy for specific reasons, and part of their reasoning is paying tribute to fallen warriors and family veterans of certain branches of the military. If CS makes 300 sets worldwide for their ACW sets, then only 300 people worldwide must buy them in order to sell out. I will be the first volunteer to buy every piece that CS creates for WW2 Pacific Campaigns. All we need now is 299 more people out there. ANy takers?
 
The Consolidated B-24 Liberator was the most produced American combat aircraft of World War II and of all time (18,500) It was used by the US Army Airforce and Navy, Royal Airforce, and Royal Canadian Air Force. It was used in every theatre (Europe, the Pacific, the Mediterranean) It was a more modern design with a higher top speed and greater range and similar bomb load and defensive armament vs the B-17 (13,000 produced). B-17s were used primarily by only the UAAAF in Europe with limited use in the Pacific and by the RAF.

But which bomber is in ALL the movies? Everyone knows the Memphis Belle. Name a famous Libeerator without looking it up. (The B-24 was an ugly airplane and difficult to fly)

My personal opinion is that there was a wealth of armour and types of armour in Europe and North Africa and not in the Pacific which was a carrier and Grunt war. It was not as sexy or as well covered in the news as the European war.

Terry
 
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Phantom Warrior said:
The Consolidated B-24 Liberator was the most produced American combat aircraft of World War II and of all time (18,500) It was used by the US Army Airforce and Navy, Royal Airforce, and Royal Canadian Air Force. It was used in every theatre (Europe, the Pacific, the Mediterranean) It was a more modern design with a higher top speed and greater range and similar bomb load and defensive armament vs the B-17 (13,000 produced). B-17s were used primarily by only the UAAAF in Europe with limited use in the Pacific and by the RAF.

But which bomber is in ALL the movies? Everyone knows the Memphis Belle. Name a famous Libeerator without looking it up. (The B-24 was an ugly airplane and difficult to fly)

My personal opinion is that there was a wealth of armour and types of armour in Europe and North Africa and not in the Pacific which was a carrier and Grunt war. It was not as sexy or as well covered in the news as the European war.

Terry
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Strawberry B***h :D
 
With all due respect, I think some of the comments are a bit of an over reaction. CS is not the first manufacturer to find out that they won't sell. Manufacturers and collectors come at this from different perspectives; one has to at least make a profit is looking at in those terms while the other group just wants to get the figures, without thinking of what the former group needs to bear in mind.

Ebay, in this case, is a barometer of what sells. The K & C Pacific releases, compared to Western or African theater, can be had at bargain rates. One, not least of all the manufacturers, wishes this was not the case, but, unfortunately, it is.
 
jazzeum said:
With all due respect, I think some of the comments are a bit of an over reaction. CS is not the first manufacturer to find out that they won't sell. Manufacturers and collectors come at this from different perspectives; one has to at least make a profit is looking at in those terms while the other group just wants to get the figures, without thinking of what the former group needs to bear in mind.

Ebay, in this case, is a barometer of what sells. The K & C Pacific releases, compared to Western or African theater, can be had at bargain rates. One, not least of all the manufacturers, wishes this was not the case, but, unfortunately, it is.
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Andy at K&C said in one of the older videos at KCTV that he would not be making more Pacific or Russian pieces as they did not sell well. As an armour collector, I was not too bothered about the Pacific pieces but was upset that he may not produce some Russian armour. My reaction was to immediately stop collecting Pacific models. I agree with Jazzeum that the Pacific pieces do not get high prices on e-bay because they are not in demand - even after they have been retired.

Terry
 
As a collector, some people are not bothered with Pacific sets, but some are. If no one ever makes another Tiger tank, I won't miss it one bit. Most people collect ETO, good for them. I just looked at every thread on the CS forum, the only on that had a little more interest and comments other than the Pacific one was WW2 ETO, to be expected. Towards the beginning of this Pacific thread, Brian got pumped up from the interest shown by many others. Don't judge us buyers by other manufacturers of bad Pacific sets. Even K&C's 2nd set of japanese forces wasn't good. THERE!!! Somebody said it..K&C was not that good for once. That's why nobody bought them, not even me. I asked once - tell me who else made metal Pacific sets other than K&C and Figarti? No one tried to perfect it, yet. What's more sexier than a Dauntless Dive Bomber screaming towards it's target? another Hitler staffcar? An all-out Banzai charge on a Marine position? I can picture the possibilities..What a shame..
 
I for one love the Pacific airwar, both naval and land based, both Allies and Japanese. I also would love to see some company do good figures and vehicles for Tarawa or the earlier campaigns such as Bataan. Anyone seen the Figarti Wake Island figures and what is your opinion? -- lancer
 
I have the last sets of K&C Japs. Can you please tell me what was wrong with them?
First let me say I don,t collect Collectors Showcase, but what is this "almost demanding" that they make Pacific War figures, maybe that,s too strong, but it is somewhat the impression I get.
This Pacific range apparantly does not sell in large enough numbers to justify producing them. As stated previously these companies are not doing figures to honor people, but to make money. This is there means of support.
Let me also state that I have all of the K&C Marine & Jap sets, further I would buy more if they were made. Also if another tiger tank was never made I could care less.
Just my take on this.
Gary
 
I started collecting the KC PTO series...both Japs and USMC. I gave up coz the line seem to be a dead end. While the Figarti line is wider, they are in 1/32 not 1/30.

I particularly like the Figarti Wake Island series, specially the early style uniform and helmets. They would work well with the Bataan theater of operation. But will wait. Not sure if the series continues.

N-P
 
Captain:

No one is "demanding anything" Last time I checked, this is a free country and we are allowed to voice our opinions yay or nay, at least that's what I SERVED FOR.

I love the King & Country Marines, and feel that they are the best figures Andy has ever done--AND HAVE TOLD HIM THAT IN PERSON AND THRU EMAIL.

I am just sick of people and manufactureres, that think the war started and ended in Europe. I also think there is something wrong about keeping the nazies front and center in this industry or any other for that matter. I don't happen to like them or what they did to the world and its people, and I'm sure not going to gratify them by supporting any purchase-- toys or otherwise. Its okay to have some representative enemy forces, but to keep hounding, and asking, and "demanding" as you so have chosen to refer to, for more and more nazi stuff--I just think that is a little weird. There are way too many good allied nations that are not represented in any form or degree that could be honored for thier service and sacrifice, than to keep making the same old nazi trash--over and over and over again!

I will be glad that when the Pacific comes out and leaves Ryan and BOB in the closet, then maybe some smart manufacturer will realize, that maybe there are collectors out there who could give a **** about europe and the nazies in general......................Stryker II
 
Refer to the beginning of this thread. There was never a demand, just great ideas and suggestions from the buying public on what we'd love to see in miniature metal figures. Brian seemed receptive to it all then he apparently spoke to the one or two of mfrs. of Pacific sets and didnt like what they said. Wait til HBO comes out with "the Pacific", then everybody will jump in and say how much they love the Pacific theater and how much they love the Marines...sound like a bunch of politicians
 
binder001 said:
Just so others will know the deal, the "Stinger" was a cobbled together field modification of the AN-M2 aircraft type .30 caliber machine gun. These were tail guns in Dauntless dive bombers, etc. The AN-M2 had a rate of fire in the range of 1200 rpm. According to the common story an ex-tool maker named Tony Stein was the main developer of this gun. There were a dozen or so modified weapons used on Iwo Jima and a few on Okinawa. Tony Stein used his Stinger in subduing several Japanese pillboxes on Iwo and won the CMH (posthumously).

The gun shown is a modern reproduction, most period pictures are poor quality.

Gary
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What a Machine Gun WOWWWWW. I was a Machine Gunner my self in the Danish Army using a MG-3 7.62mm,
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, and won a Silver Medal with it:cool:
But the Stinger looks mean.
 
Phantom Warrior said:
The Consolidated B-24 Liberator was the most produced American combat aircraft of World War II and of all time (18,500) It was used by the US Army Airforce and Navy, Royal Airforce, and Royal Canadian Air Force. It was used in every theatre (Europe, the Pacific, the Mediterranean) It was a more modern design with a higher top speed and greater range and similar bomb load and defensive armament vs the B-17 (13,000 produced). B-17s were used primarily by only the UAAAF in Europe with limited use in the Pacific and by the RAF.

But which bomber is in ALL the movies? Everyone knows the Memphis Belle. Name a famous Libeerator without looking it up. (The B-24 was an ugly airplane and difficult to fly)

My personal opinion is that there was a wealth of armour and types of armour in Europe and North Africa and not in the Pacific which was a carrier and Grunt war. It was not as sexy or as well covered in the news as the European

Terry
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Sorry, I looked it up, and what a great Plane it is:
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