George your HERO JT does it again!
Somebody get this guy a seeing eye dog!
Early in the game he wandered onto the mound when he woke up and bumped into the pitcher!
Huh? did we Lose Again![]()
Up 4-3 in the 9th inning, two outs, his closer on the hill who throws a fastball out over the plate that gets ripped for a game winning two run double...........
Yep, that was Joe's fault for sure....
What he should have done is pulled the guy and brought some ham and egger in to pitch to Rollins because that brilliant strategy worked for Girardi...
Joe Torre=first ballot lock for the HOF.
Like it or not.
Up 4-3 in the 9th inning, two outs, his closer on the hill who throws a fastball out over the plate that gets ripped for a game winning two run double...........
Yep, that was Joe's fault for sure....![]()
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No, he should have pulled him after he walked one and hit one with 1 out and
two on. Play each game like its your last!
Joe Torre........watching this seasons World Series from home!
AGAIN!
Hey George......maybe he will come over for a beer!![]()
JMO, but Girardi may be over-thinking his pitching. I have never been a fan of the 1/3 of an inning pitching parade that seems to be in vogue. I think it limits options when you burn through 3 or 4 pitchers in an inning. Eventually, you will run out of arms and you also run the risk of burning out the bullpen. I do not understand the use of Chamberlain and at any rate, I believe if a pitcher is doing the job, let him pitch until he's not doing the job. Robertson should not have been pulled in last nights game. I know it is 20-20 hindsight, but that is what I felt at the time of the change. Why replace a hot pitcher when he is doing the job? Girardi is just over-thinking. -- lancer
Al,
Couldn't agree more with what you said, and it's not just Joe Girardi, ALL managers do the same thing. The starter goes 6, a reliever comes in for the 7th, 1,2,3, then they pull the guy and another guys comes in for the 8th.
WHY?
Leave the guy in there until he gives up a hit, whatever, the whole "pitch count", "lefty specialist", "this guy matches up better than that guy", etc, etc drives me nuts.
I really miss the 60's and 70's regarding baseball, I really do..............
I totally agree with both of you. Let the guy pitch until they start to hit him. Taking a guy out after one batter is so freakin' annoying.
Just another rant here on the pitching question, but who in the world decided that a 5 or 6 inning outing is a quality start? A pitcher who gets pulled after 5 or 6 innings is leaving a 1/3 or more of the game to relievers. Once again, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. A quality start is going 8 or 9 innings and winning. As George says, I miss the baseball of the 60' & 70's where a pitcher might complete 20-25 games (that's right, all 9 innings) a season and might have a legitimate shot at winning 20 games and pitching 275 innings. Now, we have Cy Young award winners with 16-17 wins and 200 innings. The wussification of baseball continues. -- Al
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you, to find out that the love of the game is not the main motivator. When I first started as a firefighter, my starting salary was a tick over $13 grand and I had a wife and 2 children. That same year (or close to it, my memory is inexact here) I believe the minimum salary in baseball was $112 grand. I thought that was outrageous then, let alone the gap now. Money makes the world go round, world go round... I guess the owners have to protect their investments.Al,
To continue with what you said, same deal with football; can't hit the QB in the head/below the knees/slam him to the ground/hit him helmet to helmet, etc, etc, might as well put a red "no contact" jersey on them.
It's all about money I'm afraid; millions spent on pitchers, so you don't want to burn them out, millions spent on QB's, so if one gets hurt like a Manning, a Brady, a Brees, their teams season is over and ratings plummet.
Sports today=M-O-N-E-Y....................
Hi Michael. I also fondly remember those same NYY teams. I thought Stottlemyre was great. I really liked Fritz Peterson and Stan Bahnsen, too. Remember the Kekich-Peterson fiasco?Mel Stottlemyre will always be my favorite Yankee. I long for the days, when as kids we rooted for players and could care less if the team won championships.I would listen to my 70's and 80's Yankee teams on a cheap radio, near every night and if they won, great, but even in a loss I was able to find fun moments. Horace Clarke breaking up 2 9th inning no-hitters in one season. Mickey Mantle on his literal last legs, belting any homerun. Watching Clete Boyer and Tommy Thresh work their fielding magic..The underated Roy White in left and who could forget Joe Pepitone. Not once before the advent of the current playoff system, was I ever demanding a world series from my beloved "bums"...All I ever asked was that they give it their all and would never, ever leave me...And they never did. They will always live on in my memories. I have just been renting the Yankees for the last few years because I cannot own them, like I did some 30 and 40 years ago..I will always root for them and cheer and moan with them..but I am not sure that I would remember these teams in the same way..Michael
Hi Michael. I also fondly remember those same NYY teams. I thought Stottlemyre was great. I really liked Fritz Peterson and Stan Bahnsen, too. Remember the Kekich-Peterson fiasco?-- Al
Louis,
Remember when Goose Gossage was your closer and he routinely pitched 3 or 4 innnings to get the "save?"
This pitching to one batter/every pitcher goes one inning stuff is annoying.
