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I learn something everyday about baseball, it seems. Last night (early am) the Nats beat San Diego 10-0, with Jordan Zimmermann going 6 innings for the win. Now, he was pulled to save his arm in a laugher and another pitcher brought in to get the last 9 outs, which Cole did without trouble. Cole got an official save for his work in a 10-0 game. I've never heard of this (or at least no memory of), but apparently any pitcher that closes a winning game by getting the last 9 outs will get a save, regardless of score. Go figure. -- Al
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Ain't that the truth. Fun with numbers. I love it.^&grin -- Al
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I have heard of that rule and have seen a few games where it came into play. That's what comes of watching over 50 years.
I've obviously seen a lot of bad baseball and good -- probably more bad than good (but what fan hasn't) -- and I've learned to treasure and enjoy each win, no matter how bad your team is. When I was a kid and until he retired the late and great Bob Murphey -- Murph -- would end each Mets win with "Back with the happy recap." Howie Rose, who is equally a good broadcaster, ends each win with "Put it in the books!" I also remember Frank Messer, who did Yanks games saying each time a Yank hit a HR: "A B C ya later." It's those little things that stick out over the years.
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O's got a brilliant game out of call-up Mike Wright today. He went 7.1 innings of shutout, 4-hit ball and then the bullpen closed out the win.The only run in the game, until the bottom of the 8th, scored on a wild-pitch in the 4th inning, making Wright a winner against the Angels, with a final score of 3-0. Lack of offense has been the main problem for the O's as of late, including the loss to the Angels in the first 2 games of the series, despite Umbaldo being very effective again in last night's loss. The O's continue to get good pitching from starters Jimenez, Chen, and Gonzalez, but Tillman and Norris can't get untracked and are a concern. O's also need the offense to get going if they want to stay close. -- Al
The Nat's Bryce Harper is on a truely torrid tear. He has gone 3-3 in today's game in SD, with a triple, an RBI single, and a 3-run Hr. That leaves his BA at .341, his OBP at .479, and his SLG at .735. He now leads the NL in Hr's with 14 and RBI's with 37, as well as leading in BB with 36. Not bad for the 22 year old. -- Al
Bryce got up one more time in the 10-5 win but grounded out, dropping the above quoted averages by a few points. -- Al
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Just caught a quick glance at the AL East standings only 5 games seperate first from last and this is going into the later half of May, while most other divisions have a serious front runner the East I believe will stay close for awhile, it didn't help that all 5 AL East teams seemingly played each other for the first 4 weeks with a stray series here or there, keeps it interesting that's for sure as I'm checking all the East teams scores almost every day!!...Sammy
Good night for the Nats. After trailing 6-2 half-way thru the game, they beat the NYY's with a Ryan Zimmerman walk-off 2-run Hr in the bottom of the 10th. He hit it off of super-lefty Miller, who hadn't given up a run all year. Plus, the win gives the Nats a share of 1st place. The first 20 games of the year, the Nats went 7-13 and were 8 games back of the 1st place Mets. The second 20 games they have gone 16-4 and have tied for the lead. Most surprisingly, they have accomplished all of this with 3 of their vaunted starting pitchers under performing. The offense has been scary good over the last 20 games, kicked off by that 13-12 come from behind victory in Atlanta in the game that touched off their turn-around. As a matter of interest, this was Zimmerman's 10th career walk-off Hr. And Harper hit his 15th Hr, his 10th in the last 12 games. The man is hot. -- Al
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Which again proves for the millionth time that you do not use your closer in a tie game..They have a totally different mindset, when not closing..Rivera, Robinson, and now Miller all top line closers, always have failed in these scenarios..Michael
Michael, I was a little shocked to see Miller in the game. As you say, not in a tie game, on the road anyway. What was NY going to do for a closer if they had gained the lead in extra innings? Girardi just mishandled the situation. It does happen. Nat's manager Williams is still learning how to handle a pitching staff and has made some errors this season. -- Al
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It was only a matter of time before the Nationals caught the Mets as they are too good a team. Although the Mets may have the best or among the best starting rotations in MLB, with more guys on the farm like Steven Matz and Montero still to come, offensively they are, well, offensive. They had no margin for error and losing Wright (who always seems hurt now) and d'Arnaud hurt. Cuddeyer has been a major disappointment so far.
The team has done little to improve their offense and shows little inclination to do so as their finances still seem to be affected by the Madoff scandal. I frankly wish the Wilpons would sell and just get the heck out. They need to make a trade for a SS because Flores can't field (he has 8 errors already); his saving grace was supposed to be offense but he's hitting under .250. A potential trade partner would be the Cubs as they have a SS to give and need starting pitching.
Alderson has done nothing to develop talent since he's been here; all the players you now see at the parent club like Harvey, deGrom, Familia, etc. were drafted and developed by Omar Minaya, the GM before Alderson. He's good at trading, having acquired Wheeler and d'Arnaud and Syndergaard, but so far the jury is out on player development. His attempts at building a bullpen have been nothing less than awful.
At the beginning of the season, I would have been happy with 82 or 83 wins. Right now, even that is looking a little cloudy.
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The team has done little to improve their offense and shows little inclination to do so as their finances still seem to be affected by the Madoff scandal. I frankly wish the Wilpons would sell and just get the heck out. They need to make a trade for a SS because Flores can't field (he has 8 errors already); his saving grace was supposed to be offense but he's hitting under .250. A potential trade partner would be the Cubs as they have a SS to give and need starting pitching.
Alderson has done nothing to develop talent since he's been here; all the players you now see at the parent club like Harvey, deGrom, Familia, etc. were drafted and developed by Omar Minaya, the GM before Alderson. He's good at trading, having acquired Wheeler and d'Arnaud and Syndergaard, but so far the jury is out on player development. His attempts at building a bullpen have been nothing less than awful.
At the beginning of the season, I would have been happy with 82 or 83 wins. Right now, even that is looking a little cloudy.
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Brad, I've been very impressed with Mets starting rotation. Harvey would be 7-1 with a little support and de Grom, Niese, and Colon have done really well. I like Gee and he has pitched well for the most part but has been unlucky as he should be 3-1 instead of 0-2. You are right. With an adequate offense to back up the starting pitching the Mets would still be alone in 1st place. As far as SS goes, rumor has it that Tulowitzki can be had for the right price. Same rumor mill has the Nats being interested in him, but that's a long shot. -- Al
Agree about the injury factor and at the age of 30, the injury factor might only increase. However, his numbers are still good and he could be a short-term solution for someone. I only mentioned him in relation to the Nats because the current SS, Ian Desmond, is in his walk year and his offensive numbers are down, errors up, and some of the local pundits have mentioned Tulowitzki. The Nats don't need him though. Once Rendon gets back, the Nats have other very good SS options on the team if the need arises. -- Al
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His salary, injury factors and that he is a favorite of the owner (meaning he will cost a bushel full) make him, in my opinion, a dicey prospect, for both the Mets and the Yankees. The last thing the Mets need is another injury prone infielder.
Timmy L continues to look good and is actually SF's best starter right now, by the numbers, with a 4-2 record and a 2.08 ERA. SF is in 2nd place and is currently the hottest team in the NL West. Been getting some good pitching. -- Al