Baseball 2015 (3 Viewers)

[lancer]

is this the future?

http://www.foxsports.com/buzzer/video?vid=490448963670

I suppose it is inevitable, at least to some degree. Umpires are still going to have to be present on the field for all other judgement calls even if balls/strikes are taken away and their other calls are subject to instant review. I'm beginning to think that the review process should be done away with and baseball just go back to the umpires judgement. I kind of miss the old arguments with managers kicking dirt and throwing bases. The replay review process has taken the arguments out of the game and the human element to close calls with it. Leave Hr review in place but put the game back in the umps hands. -- Al

 

[mikemiller1955]

I suppose it is inevitable, at least to some degree. Umpires are still going to have to be present on the field for all other judgement calls even if balls/strikes are taken away and their other calls are subject to instant review. I'm beginning to think that the review process should be done away with and baseball just go back to the umpires judgement. I kind of miss the old arguments with managers kicking dirt and throwing bases. The replay review process has taken the arguments out of the game and the human element to close calls with it. Leave Hr review in place but put the game back in the umps hands. -- Al

Al...

agreed...the human factor will always be there...but I like this...I would not miss the arguments...^&grin

 

[Louis Badolato]

I suppose it is inevitable, at least to some degree. Umpires are still going to have to be present on the field for all other judgement calls even if balls/strikes are taken away and their other calls are subject to instant review. I'm beginning to think that the review process should be done away with and baseball just go back to the umpires judgement. I kind of miss the old arguments with managers kicking dirt and throwing bases. The replay review process has taken the arguments out of the game and the human element to close calls with it. Leave Hr review in place but put the game back in the umps hands. -- Al

You must be kidding Al! What replay has shown me is how many critical close calls the umpires get wrong. Frankly, I would love it if they could do called strikes and fair-foul with an electric eye. Wouldn't it be nice if every player got the correct strike zone in every inning? As opposed to whatever some cranky old drama queen (my feeling about umpires, with their individualized strike-out calls, like I pay to go to the games to see their hysterics) decides the strike zone should be that day, and often, that inning if its late in the game. It would also eliminate the b.s. about arguing calls and strikes and the players I came to see getting thrown out of a game because some old fool thinks they showed him up. Can you tell that I have absolutely no respect for umpires? I can't stand them. Sorry about the rant.

 

[mikemiller1955]

from the viewpoint of a consistent strike zone...I would welcome it...

 

[jazzeum]

It's a game played and judged by individuals. That's the way it was meant to be played. If I wanted a completely technological game, then we'll wind up with one of those movies that Arnold did, Rollerball or something like that.

Over the course of the game, only a few calls are overturned.

 

[Warrior]

Triple or Double AA offense but give Kershaw credit too. Before the game, the GM, Sandy Alderson, tried to defend the product, which is indefensible; Duda has reverted to form; last year must have been a fantasy. Fans have been calling for Michael Conforto, a top prospect to be called up, but Alderso pooh poohed that. However, with your cleanup hitter last night hitting .170 last night, what do you have lose. This might be the most wretched hitting team I've ever seen and, trust me, I've seen a few.

The basic problem -- I feel like a broken record -- is ownership and their Madoff liquidity problem. Until they somehow sell, this will be a chronic problem.

Not being close to the scene, what's the problem with ownership Brad? Are they cash strapped or do they not want to spend the money?

They have the pitching for sure, it's easier to build from the pitching staff out that from the line up in.

If they get some bats, they are going to be a force.................

 

[lancer]

You must be kidding Al! What replay has shown me is how many critical close calls the umpires get wrong. Frankly, I would love it if they could do called strikes and fair-foul with an electric eye. Wouldn't it be nice if every player got the correct strike zone in every inning? As opposed to whatever some cranky old drama queen (my feeling about umpires, with their individualized strike-out calls, like I pay to go to the games to see their hysterics) decides the strike zone should be that day, and often, that inning if its late in the game. It would also eliminate the b.s. about arguing calls and strikes and the players I came to see getting thrown out of a game because some old fool thinks they showed him up. Can you tell that I have absolutely no respect for umpires? I can't stand them. Sorry about the rant.

I, like Mike, can see the advantage of a consistent, no variance strike zone. I can see advantages to whatever electronic widget works out best for that, otherwise I want the umps making the calls. I don't want to see every bang/bang play reviewed. A Hr review on a questionable ball is OK but the umps get it right most of the time, overwhelmingly so, so I just don't see the purpose behind most reviews. I agree with you that no one comes to a game to see the umps perform or for the umps to toss someone over balls and strikes. I just don't care for the current review process and the delays it causes. I am all for cleaning up the ball and strike calls, if it can be done without too much fuss. We'll see how it all plays out because, whether I like it or not, technology will be adapted to baseball. -- Al

 

[jazzeum]

Not being close to the scene, what's the problem with ownership Brad? Are they cash strapped or do they not want to spend the money?

They have the pitching for sure, it's easier to build from the pitching staff out that from the line up in.

If they get some bats, they are going to be a force.................

George, they're still suffering from Madoff, where the owners had to pay back several hundred million to the trustee. On top of this, they self-financed the construction of CitiField. All of this left their non-baseball operations strapped and the money that the ownership fed to the Mets dried up.

 

[Warrior]

George, they're still suffering from Madoff, where the owners had to pay back several hundred million to the trustee. On top of this, they self-financed the construction of CitiField. All of this left their non-baseball operations strapped and the money that the ownership fed to the Mets dried up.

Thanks for the background information, that is really too bad as they've got the makings of a very good team, but being strapped for cash is not a good position to be in.

I hope they don't start dumping some of those arms because they can't afford them going forward, hopefully things will improve and the team doesn't get stripped of valuable assets................

 

[lancer]

Interesting day in MLB. Hamels throws a no-no against the Cubs; Davis hits a GS in the O's win; the Mets have scored 14 runs so far in their game in LA; A-Rod has gone deep three times, giving him 23 on the year; Bums won his 11th and the Nats bullpen hasn't blown the lead to the Pirates, yet (holding my breath on that one, still 6 outs to get). -- Al

 

[Warrior]

A-Rod has gone deep three times, giving him 23 on the year........

Are MFY fans still booing him at every at bat?

Yeah, I didn't think so; every home run that cheater hits is a black mark on baseball.

What a farce; he should have been banned for life.

 

[jazzeum]

Whenever a bad hitting team scores like the way the Mets are tonight, they usually revert to form the next day. Moreover, they have to face Greinke tomorrow.

However, Conforto has 4 hits tonight and Kelly Johnson a HR so those are good.

 

[maddadicus]

Are MFY fans still booing him at every at bat?

Yeah, I didn't think so; every home run that cheater hits is a black mark on baseball.

What a farce; he should have been banned for life.

George, you really need theraphy for your Arod fixation. MLB is now cleansed..Everyone important says so. With Big Poppy now in his drug induced declining years, and Ramirez gone, all the vestiges of the RS World Series cheater years can now be washed away from the record books. And high time those phony achievements be forgotton, and the clean RS go back to their cellar dwelling days. If Poppy and Rammy had not been juicing, what a waste all these past seasons of actually following the RS would have truly been. Your friend in baseball, Michael ...:rolleyes2AX

 

[jazzeum]

George, you really need theraphy for your Arod fixation. MLB is now cleansed..Everyone important says so. With Big Poppy now in his drug induced declining years, and Ramirez gone, all the vestiges of the RS World Series cheater years can now be washed away from the record books. And high time those phony achievements be forgotton, and the clean RS go back to their cellar dwelling days. If Poppy and Rammy had not been juicing, what a waste all these past seasons of actually following the RS would have truly been. Your friend in baseball, Michael ...:rolleyes2AX

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones :rolleyes2:

 

[maddadicus]

Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones :rolleyes2:

I did not start this war of RS users vs NYY users...:redface2:Michael

 

[jazzeum]

Just don't act holier than thou. Steroids was a problem for ALL of baseball. The following is from a 2007 article in the New York Times:

"According to the Mitchell report, [Roger] Clemens used steroids in the latter half of the 2000 season. Neagle played for the Yankees in the latter half of that season and, according to Mitchell, used human growth hormone.

[Denny] Neagle won four successive starts from Aug. 27 through Sept. 12. Clemens, following Neagle in the rotation, won three of four starts. Three times they won consecutive games. Their efforts helped the Yankees increase their division lead from three games to nine.

The Yankees, who lost 13 of their last 15 games, won the division by 2 ½ games over the Red Sox. Without the performances of Neagle and Clemens, who knows what would have happened? The wild card wasn’t available to the Yankees because the second-place teams in the other divisions had better records."

Who knows? Maybe the Mets then win the World Series, but they were tainted too.

 

[Panzer ace]

If steroids equated to championships then Bonds would have a few World Series rings. He has none and the Giant's WS run did not start until he retired.

 

[Louis Badolato]

I stand by my original statement that the majority of players who hit 40 homers or throw 98 MPH are on PED's. I would be highly doubtful that there is a single title from 1999 on which is not tainted, including three Yankee titles, 3 Red Sox Titles, and I agree with George that the entire era is a blight on baseball. Anyone who has any doubt of this is watching their games in a stadium right next to Rodney Dangerfield's factory from Back to School, in Fantasy Land!{sm4}

 

[Louis Badolato]

Are MFY fans still booing him at every at bat?

Yeah, I didn't think so; every home run that cheater hits is a black mark on baseball.

What a farce; he should have been banned for life.

Some of us MFY fans agree with you on this issue. I think a zero tolerance issue is the only way to ever clean up the PED mess. Mandatory testing for every player, every week of the year. A single positive test on you are done for life, and none of your stats count, you are deleted from the record books. It would be boring for a while, with the big sluggers and power pitchers becoming as scarce as hens teeth, but at least you could trust what you were watching.

 

[Warrior]

Just don't act holier than thou. Steroids was a problem for ALL of baseball. The following is from a 2007 article in the New York Times:

"According to the Mitchell report, [Roger] Clemens used steroids in the latter half of the 2000 season. Neagle played for the Yankees in the latter half of that season and, according to Mitchell, used human growth hormone.

[Denny] Neagle won four successive starts from Aug. 27 through Sept. 12. Clemens, following Neagle in the rotation, won three of four starts. Three times they won consecutive games. Their efforts helped the Yankees increase their division lead from three games to nine.

The Yankees, who lost 13 of their last 15 games, won the division by 2 ½ games over the Red Sox. Without the performances of Neagle and Clemens, who knows what would have happened? The wild card wasn’t available to the Yankees because the second-place teams in the other divisions had better records."

Who knows? Maybe the Mets then win the World Series, but they were tainted too.

SSHHHHH..........Don't tell Michael.............Giambi was one of the biggest juicers on the MFYs;' remember those two home runs he hit in the seventh game of the 2003 ALCS which resulted in the MFY's winning the game and moving on to the WS................nothing to see here because he was a Yankee..............:rolleyes2: