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Today on Boston sports talk radio, the subject was the Lester signing/press conference.
Lester said "It was difficult to leave a situation where I had won and had success to come to a new organization, but I am excited about winning a World Series here, something the Cubs haven't done."
Really; I know it's been 115 years since they won and all, but you'd think the boob who prepped him for the presser would have told him the Cubs have won a World Series.
He also said that the trade at the deadline proved to him he could live somewhere else and not feel out of place, the trade helped him make this decision.
Oh gee, maybe the Sox shouldn't have traded Jon and got Cespedes, so they could then get Porcello for him, they should have kept Jon.................so that when he walked, they got nothing for him.
The more this guy talks, the more I don't miss him.
Good luck in Chicago Jon, you're going to need it.
Lester said "It was difficult to leave a situation where I had won and had success to come to a new organization, but I am excited about winning a World Series here, something the Cubs haven't done."
Really; I know it's been 115 years since they won and all, but you'd think the boob who prepped him for the presser would have told him the Cubs have won a World Series.
He also said that the trade at the deadline proved to him he could live somewhere else and not feel out of place, the trade helped him make this decision.
Oh gee, maybe the Sox shouldn't have traded Jon and got Cespedes, so they could then get Porcello for him, they should have kept Jon.................so that when he walked, they got nothing for him.
The more this guy talks, the more I don't miss him.
Good luck in Chicago Jon, you're going to need it.
Hot Stove reporting that the Padres have acquired Justin Upton from the Braves. Padres have totally transformed their team. Just got Norris from the Athletics and are reported to have signed Josh Johnson, as well. Busy, busy. Instant contenders. -- Al
It is getting close, Sammy. Still waiting on my Nats and O's to address their needs. No one has done anything yet. -- Al
Some sad news today as Stu Miller has passed away at age 87. Miller is a former relief pitcher who did outstanding work for the Giants and the O's in the 50's and 60's. He was a member of the O's 1966 World Championship team. Mostly he was famous for being blown off the mound by a wind gust in the 1961 All-star game being held in Candlestick Park. He wasn't actually blown off the mound but the wind gust did knock him off balance during his delivery, causing a balk to be called. It was said he had 3 pitches, slow, slower, and slowest. RIP, Stu Miller. -- Al
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Great Hall of Fame class this year, Johnson, Martinez, Smoltz and Biggio.
A bonus for me is that Bonds did not even come close.
A bonus for me is that Bonds did not even come close.
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Great to see Pedro get in, he was absolutely dominant for the Red Sox.
Awesome news.
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Admission to the HOF, be it baseball or football, has always been something that doesn't require heavy analysis. If it does, then you probably don't belong.
When you think of Pedro or Randy Johnson, you don't even give it a second thought. What still annoys me, even all these years later, is that the Red Sox acquired Pedro from the Expos for unimpressive picks. At the time, I was thinking, "wow, the Mets could have given the Expos a better package." I was glad to see him leave the NL; he gave the Mets fits. I was glad to see him join them in the mid 2000s, even if at the tail end of his career.
That gets me to Biggio. Maybe it's me but his stats are not that impressive. Yes, I know he had 3,000 hits but that was done over 20 years. He's a compiler. Good Second Baseman and very dependable but HOF'er? Not in my book. Guys that fall in that category are the late Ron Santo and Rizzutto. Good players but not HOF'ers, in my opinion.
When you think of Pedro or Randy Johnson, you don't even give it a second thought. What still annoys me, even all these years later, is that the Red Sox acquired Pedro from the Expos for unimpressive picks. At the time, I was thinking, "wow, the Mets could have given the Expos a better package." I was glad to see him leave the NL; he gave the Mets fits. I was glad to see him join them in the mid 2000s, even if at the tail end of his career.
That gets me to Biggio. Maybe it's me but his stats are not that impressive. Yes, I know he had 3,000 hits but that was done over 20 years. He's a compiler. Good Second Baseman and very dependable but HOF'er? Not in my book. Guys that fall in that category are the late Ron Santo and Rizzutto. Good players but not HOF'ers, in my opinion.
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Biggio is a seven-time MLB All-Star and won four Gold Glove Awards and five Silver Slugger Awards during his career. He ranks 21st all-time with 3,060 career hits, and is the ninth player in the 3,000 hit club to get all his hits with the same team. He also holds the modern record for most times hit by a pitch in a career with 285.
Must be time to discuss baseball's bad boys, specifically Jackson, Rose, and Bonds. All broke different rules and got caught, although the results of getting caught varied widely. Is one rule broken any more or less serious than another rule broken? If accomplishments are the baseline for the HoF, how do you keep Jackson (baseball's #3 all-time leading hitter for average at .355), or Rose (baseball's all-time leader in hits at 4250), or Bonds (baseball's all-time leading Hr hitter with 762) out of the HoF because they broke some rules? Lots of present HoFer's have broken rules of some sort. Should any of the aforementioned 3 be allowed in the Hof, or forever be banned? -- Al
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Without getting into the other two, Rose is not in the HOF because he is not eligible for Hall election. He is on MLB's permanently ineligible list and the HOF does not permit election of anyone on the list. Rose is on the list because he voluntarily placed himself on the list in return for MLB not formally finding that he bet on baseball while the manager of the Reds.
I believe that if he admitted that he bet on baseball, he could remove himself from the list and be eligible to be elected to the HOF; he would undoubtedly be elected.
I believe that if he admitted that he bet on baseball, he could remove himself from the list and be eligible to be elected to the HOF; he would undoubtedly be elected.
Always has perplexed me as to why Rose just doesn't admit the obvious and get it over with. The fans and baseball would forgive him. I just don't get it. -- Al
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Al:
I can’t stand him for obvious reasons and feel that he doesn’t belong anywhere near the Hall.
I simply love the fact that in the 6 years since he retired the Giants have won 3 World Series.
-Jason
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There is a difference between Shoeless Joe and Bonds. The former was caught up in a gambler's ring and I believe he was illiterate. I don't think there's clear and convincing evidence that he was guilty or knew what he was getting involved with. From what I understand he had a genial personality. Considering the circumstances, his case should be re-examined.
Bonds, on the other hand, is an intelligent man who knew what he was doing and an ogre to boot. He probably would have been elected had he not dabbled with steroids. That is the tragedy of his case. He knowingly took the course of action he did. His crime was worse than Jackson's. It's the difference between intentional willful misconduct and negligence, to use legal terms.
Bonds, on the other hand, is an intelligent man who knew what he was doing and an ogre to boot. He probably would have been elected had he not dabbled with steroids. That is the tragedy of his case. He knowingly took the course of action he did. His crime was worse than Jackson's. It's the difference between intentional willful misconduct and negligence, to use legal terms.