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Toronto fans acted like the hayseeds they are yesterday. This is what happens when you have people who aren't baseball fans attend games and don't understand the game.
 
Warrior said:
Terry,
I've watched literally thousands of baseball games and I saw what I saw yesterday one other time; 2004 in game 6 of the ALCS when the umpires ruled ARod was out as he knocked the ball out of a players hand illegally.

Yankees fans bombarded the field with bottles, they had to stop the game momentarily.

Maybe you die hard baseball fans up in Toronto should read a baseball rule book; Martin threw the ball back to the pitcher, it hit the batters bat in the box, so it's a live ball.

Hey, you won the game anyway, which is great news for all those die hard fans up there as now they don't have to return the Blue Jays jerseys and hats they bought earlier this week.

Good luck with the Royals...............you'll need it.
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I too have watched thousands of baseball games since I was a kid in the days of Peewee Reese of the Brooklyn Dodgers and Mantle and Maris of the Yankees and Willie Mays. I've gone to hundreds of baseball games from the old Toronto Male Leafs of the International League and Blue Jay games at the old Exhibition Stadium and the Skydome. I can remember more fan incidents than the one you have mentioned.

6 or 7 years ago an Angles fan hit Mike Piazza with a water bottle after he homered

Carl Everett was hit in the back of the head by an Oakland fan who threw a cell phone

a Mets game where Pete Rose disputed a call and shoved the umpire and was ejected started a riot where Reds fans threw beer cups, golf balls and garbage onto the field. Rose was suspended for a huge number of games.

A Yankee fan through a Bowie knife at Wally Joyner and hit him with the handle end

In the 1970s Cleveland had a 10 cent beer night which ended in a riot between fans and players of both teams defending themselves with baseball bats.

Washington Senators last game before moving to Texas fans rioted and trashed the stadium.

I'm sure there are many more that I don't know about.

Terry
 
Panzer ace said:
Speaking of low (no) class, Bautista's bat flip and stare down of the pitcher was even worse than the fans throwing garbage on the field.
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So true. Don't care for the bat flip, regardless of who is doing it, be it Harper or whoever. Whatever happened to just dropping the bat and running the bases, head and hands down? What is the need to proclaim to the world that you have just executed the greatest play in baseball history? I don't remember The Mick ever showing anybody up. -- Al
 
All those games you mention Terry were eons ago. Should we go back to Methuselah. I'm sure there must be a few from that time. It was an embarrassing spectacle from people who ought to know better.
 
Phantom Warrior said:
I too have watched thousands of baseball games since I was a kid in the days of Peewee Reese of the Brooklyn Dodgers and Mantle and Maris of the Yankees and Willie Mays. I've gone to hundreds of baseball games from the old Toronto Male Leafs of the International League and Blue Jay games at the old Exhibition Stadium and the Skydome. I can remember more fan incidents than the one you have mentioned.

6 or 7 years ago an Angles fan hit Mike Piazza with a water bottle after he homered

Carl Everett was hit in the back of the head by an Oakland fan who threw a cell phone

a Mets game where Pete Rose disputed a call and shoved the umpire and was ejected started a riot where Reds fans threw beer cups, golf balls and garbage onto the field. Rose was suspended for a huge number of games.

A Yankee fan through a Bowie knife at Wally Joyner and hit him with the handle end

In the 1970s Cleveland had a 10 cent beer night which ended in a riot between fans and players of both teams defending themselves with baseball bats.

Washington Senators last game before moving to Texas fans rioted and trashed the stadium.

I'm sure there are many more that I don't know about.

Terry
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Terry, all fine examples of how fans can turn into animals. I must defend the fans of the Washinton Senators on the night in question. They had to put up with Bob Short as the team's owner. He was enough to drive anyone to riot. It is a wonder it hadn't happened sooner. He really tore the heart out of Washington fans. :(
Hard to defend the throwing of anything, bottles, cans, knives, onto a field of play, at any time for any reason. The culprits need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and banned from attending games ever again. -- Al
 
Warrior said:
Terry,
I've watched literally thousands of baseball games and I saw what I saw yesterday one other time; 2004 in game 6 of the ALCS when the umpires ruled ARod was out as he knocked the ball out of a players hand illegally.

Maybe you die hard baseball fans up in Toronto should read a baseball rule book; Martin threw the ball back to the pitcher, it hit the batters bat in the box, so it's a live ball.


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What the fans in the stadium saw, without the benefit of TV commentary, was the umpire calling the ball dead. The call was reversed without an explanation at the ballpark. The umpire got the initial call wrong and even he had to call NY for a ruling. I bet not even you or any of the other baseball experts (Jazzeum, Lancer) knew that part of the rule book until it was explained on TV

Terry
 
jazzeum said:
All those games you mention Terry were eons ago. Should we go back to Methuselah. I'm sure there must be a few from that time. It was an embarrassing spectacle from people who ought to know better.
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None of them were eons ago. They were all in the 1970s to about 2008 - all in the modern era of baseball

Terry
 
Whether I knew the specific rule in question is irrelevant as I wasn't at the game. However, I do know that if the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher, it's a live ball and the runners can advance at their peril.

By the way you forgot the Merkle incident from 1908. Let's not forget that one :wink2:
 
lancer said:
Terry, all fine examples of how fans can turn into animals. I must defend the fans of the Washinton Senators on the night in question. They had to put up with Bob Short as the team's owner. He was enough to drive anyone to riot. It is a wonder it hadn't happened sooner. He really tore the heart out of Washington fans. :(
Hard to defend the throwing of anything, bottles, cans, knives, onto a field of play, at any time for any reason. The culprits need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law and banned from attending games ever again. -- Al
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Agreed. One fan has already been arrested and the police are checking the video to see if they can identify more. I suspect they are talking about security video since very little was shown on TV.

Terry
 
jazzeum said:
Whether I knew the specific rule in question is irrelevant as I wasn't at the game. However, I do know that if the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher, it's a live ball and the runners can advance at their peril.

By the way you forgot the Merkle incident from 1908. Let's not forget that one :wink2:
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The people at the game wouldn't have known the rule or whether there was interference or not. All they saw was the umpire calling a dead ball. They had to review whether the batter was at fault because they didn't know until they reviewed the video.

Terry
 
Fair enough. Speaking of which, I think the Rangers are playing Montreal tonight.

Getting back to the point at hand, any kind of crowd reaction, wherever it happens, is just not acceptable. The crowd shouldn't become part of the story. It's also not commonplace for an explanation to be given as to the ruling. Perhaps that should be changed, as they do at American football games although with cellphones today, the word gets out fast.

By the way, I was at the Senators game, the only game where I saw the crowd become the story.

Brad
 
jazzeum said:
Fair enough. Speaking of which, I think the Rangers are playing Montreal tonight.

Getting back to the point at hand, any kind of crowd reaction, wherever it happens, is just not acceptable. The crowd shouldn't become part of the story. It's also not commonplace for an explanation to be given as to the ruling. Perhaps that should be changed, as they do at American football games although with cellphones today, the word gets out fast.

By the way, I was at the Senators game, the only game where I saw the crowd become the story.

Brad
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I knew you were there. Were you the guy who stole 3rd base - literally took the base on the left field foul line? Do you still have it?^&grin
Terry
 
I was late in getting down there. All I did was run around where the bases had been. I used to have a chair from old Yankee Stadium and I mean old, when they refurbished it in the mid 70s. Bought it for next to nothing at a salvage place in Stamford, Connecticut, where I used to live. Had to leave it behind when I left law school. Probably worth a ton now. When they tore down Yankee Stadium four or five years ago, they were selling chairs for insane money.
 
jazzeum said:
I was late in getting down there. All I did was run around where the bases had been. I used to have a chair from old Yankee Stadium and I mean old, when they refurbished it in the mid 70s. Bought it for next to nothing at a salvage place in Stamford, Connecticut, where I used to live. Had to leave it behind when I left law school. Probably worth a ton now. When they tore down Yankee Stadium four or five years ago, they were selling chairs for insane money.
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Did you see Lancer there. He would have been the guy with a firemans axe separating field level chairs from their rows. ^&grin

Terry
 
There were people taking seats. I'm sure a few Redskins fans had nowhere to sit the coming Sunday.
 
Phantom Warrior said:
Did you see Lancer there. He would have been the guy with a firemans axe separating field level chairs from their rows. ^&grin

Terry
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Not guilty. This all occurred prior to my career in the FD. Besides, I was home watching on tv while Brad tore around the bases with the cops in hot pursuit.:tongue: -- Al
 
Greinke is 0-2 with a 7 ERA with the umpire calling balls and strikes tonight.
 
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