Baseball Hot Stove League 2016-2017 (1 Viewer)

One of the problems with closers is they tend to have a sudden decline rather than a gradual one.
 
The one exception is Rivera. If he's not a unanimous choice to the Hall, something's wrong.

It will be interesting to see how Miller and Chapman are next year.
 
Nats have moved Danny Espinoza (SS/2b) on to the Angels for 2 prospects. This was a salary dump as Espinoza is a excellent defensive player and hits with adequate power, though not for average. Sorry to see him go as he was one of my favorites. Nats want Turner at SS, so I guess they didn't want to pay Espinoza to be a utility player. Could be a move they regret, especially if Turner doesn't cut it at SS. Angels get a good teammate and a very good ballplayer. -- Al
 
Sad lament - since the off-season after the 2014 season, the Nats have let my 5 favorite players leave, either through trade or FA. First went Tyler Clippard (relief pitcher); then went Drew Storen (relief pitcher, who was treated badly in DC, so I was glad to see him get another chance elsewhere); then went Jordan Zimmermann (my favorite starting pitcher); then Ian Desmond and today went Danny Espinoza. It's tough to watch your favorites leave your team, especially as all these men had 6-8 years with the Nats and all but one were brought up through the Nats farm system. These were all players I had watched for years. Kind of like seeing your family broken up. I wish them all great success in their futures. -- Al
 
lancer said:
Sad lament - since the off-season after the 2014 season, the Nats have let my 5 favorite players leave, either through trade or FA. First went Tyler Clippard (relief pitcher); then went Drew Storen (relief pitcher, who was treated badly in DC, so I was glad to see him get another chance elsewhere); then went Jordan Zimmermann (my favorite starting pitcher); then Ian Desmond and today went Danny Espinoza. It's tough to watch your favorites leave your team, especially as all these men had 6-8 years with the Nats and all but one were brought up through the Nats farm system. These were all players I had watched for years. Kind of like seeing your family broken up. I wish them all great success in their futures. -- Al
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As you know as good as I Al, what would be a off season for the O's if they didn't release or let go 2-3 good players a year :mad::mad: maybe the Belt way corridor just isn't that welcoming for the Nats/O's for keeping players, just waiting for the hammer to start dropping..Wieters?? Trumbo?? Machado next year??? really sucks to lose players that you like but I guess that's the nature of the beast these days.
 
sammy719 said:
As you know as good as I Al, what would be a off season for the O's if they didn't release or let go 2-3 good players a year :mad::mad: maybe the Belt way corridor just isn't that welcoming for the Nats/O's for keeping players, just waiting for the hammer to start dropping..Wieters?? Trumbo?? Machado next year??? really sucks to lose players that you like but I guess that's the nature of the beast these days.
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True enough, Sammy. If the O's EVER shipout Machado, I'm done with them. He's the franchise. -- Al
 
If they decide they can't sign him, you can't blame them for trying to trade him at the deadline.
 
Jansen returns to the Dodgers. Now, what are the Nats going to do for a closer? My money is on an in-house promotion. Probably Blake Treinen, who really improved in 2016. Hope Rizzo leaves the likes of Robertson and Holland alone. -- Al
 
lancer said:
Sad lament - since the off-season after the 2014 season, the Nats have let my 5 favorite players leave, either through trade or FA. First went Tyler Clippard (relief pitcher); then went Drew Storen (relief pitcher, who was treated badly in DC, so I was glad to see him get another chance elsewhere); then went Jordan Zimmermann (my favorite starting pitcher); then Ian Desmond and today went Danny Espinoza. It's tough to watch your favorites leave your team, especially as all these men had 6-8 years with the Nats and all but one were brought up through the Nats farm system. These were all players I had watched for years. Kind of like seeing your family broken up. I wish them all great success in their futures. -- Al
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The more I think about the Espinoza trade, the less I like it. He was an extremely valuable defensive player, able to cover all infield positions, if needed, which becomes very important when considering that Rendon at 3b and Zimmerman at 1b are injury prone. Even Murphy at 2b got hurt near the end of the season. All are positions Espinoza could adequately cover. He also can do the outfield in a pinch. I think this move will come back to haunt the Nats. -- Al
 
He hit all of 209. My son is not to thrilled with the trade.
 
jazzeum said:
He hit all of 209. My son is not to thrilled with the trade.
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Yeah, he's not much for average, and he fans a lot, but on the upside, he is a plus defender, is versatile, hits for power, and is a good baserunner. If the Angels have a hole in the infield, he can fill it. -- Al
 
Just a quick reminder...the Brewers are doing nothing.

Well, not exactly nothing, they signed Eric Thames, a 30 year old who hasn't played in the Majors since 2012 and an AMAZING average over his three big league seasons of .250. But...he was a MAN in Korea last year...

Now...back to the conversation from clubs that actually pretend they are trying to win...
 
The Phillies picked up Clay Buchholz from Boston today, for a minor league second-baseman. I think they were really looking for a veteran's experience, to provide guidance to the youngsters. A buddy of mine, a lifelong Sawks fan, said Buchholz is a Halloween pick, he's either trick, if he's injured, or treat, if he's healthy. We'll see how things go, come spring training.

Prost!
Brad
 
Mets and Pirates are discussing McCutchen. Here's hoping.
 
The Yankees are looking to trade for White Sox lefty starter Quintana. On the one hand he is young, under team control for the next 4 years for a very reasonable contract (7 million, 8.8 million, then team options for 10 million and 11.5 million), and has a respectable career era and whip. On the other hand he is a career 46-46, and the are looking for top prospects for a career .500 pitcher. There is no question the Yankees need starting pitching, but after finally restocking the farm system I am leary of trading top prospects away. I hope they get it right.
 
jazzeum said:
Article on the Nationals closer situation, for Al, http://m.nationals.mlb.com/news/article/211964162/nationals-still-in-need-of-new-closer/
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Been a lot of buzz about this situation on the local sports shows. Haven't had any luck with the FA closers, so an internal choice is likely. Trienan is a good bet as the Nats like his heavy sinker that induces the ground balls, but he has no real experience as a closer. It is a puzzle. Nats couldn't hold onto Melancon and lost Jansen even though they offered more money than the Dodgers did. Nats seem to lose out on FA signings quite often. Oh well. -- Al
 
lancer said:
Been a lot of buzz about this situation on the local sports shows. Haven't had any luck with the FA closers, so an internal choice is likely. Trienan is a good bet as the Nats like his heavy sinker that induces the ground balls, but he has no real experience as a closer. It is a puzzle. Nats couldn't hold onto Melancon and lost Jansen even though they offered more money than the Dodgers did. Nats seem to lose out on FA signings quite often. Oh well. -- Al
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Al:

I could see FA's not signing with the Nats a few years ago, but with Baker at the helm it is a real puzzle. Players rave about playing for him and they have money to spend. A player's manager and big bucks is usually a combo for top free agent signings across the board.

-Jason
 
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