Boss lose house to thief!!! (3 Viewers)

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Could not believe this story
Mitch

A boss who shamed an employee by forcing him to wear a "thief" sign has told Sky News he now has to sell his home to pay compensation to the former worker. For 'Thief's' Payout
Simon Cremer, who runs a flooring business in Essex, had to pay one-time employee Mark Gilbert compensation for the embarrassment.

In September 2008, the 46-year-old boss made Mr Gilbert, 40, go out in in public with a placard around his neck that read: "THIEF. I Stole £845. Am on my way to the police station".

Mr Cremer told Sky's Kay Burley: "It was something I wanted to do to humiliate him."

"I think that was a just treatment for him due to the fact that the police only gave him a caution.

"I think I was correct to do that. I don't feel any guilt for doing it."

He said he was upset at the time over the betrayal of trust from Mr Gilbert, who had written a company cheque to himself.

Mr Gilbert was arrested on suspicion of theft but later accepted a police caution.

Mr Cremer later faced a charge of false imprisonment along with three other men, but the case was dropped.

Soon after, Mr Gilbert launched a civil action against his former boss for the "stress, humiliation and trauma" he suffered during the incident.

The pair settled out of court and Mr Cremer has had to pay a total of £34,000, including £5,000 in compensation and nearly £30,000 in legal costs.

Mr Cremer said he would now have to sell his house.

"When I was informed Mr Gilbert would be taking civil action against me I was shocked," he said.

"I wanted to fight the case but I was told it would be cheaper to settle out of court.

"I am disappointed and disgusted with the legal system.

"I now have to sell my house to pay for this. A guy stole from me and I now have to sell my house to pay him."

He added: "Financially I regret it but morally I don't. I think it was the right thing to do."

Mr Cremer told Sky News that his actions were justified as he was upset over the betrayal of trust from Mr Gilbert who he claimed had written a company cheque for £845 to himself.
 
Sadly, I think it is. Its how upside down everything has got now. The picture of him being frog marched down the road to the local cop shop was priceless but, would not come through.

Probably, would have been substantially cheaper to have given him a slap or two
Madness.
Mitch
 
Mr. Cremer is lucky he isn't living in the PC USA. Humiliate a criminal overhere? Every PC advocate and their grandma would be screaming bloody murder. Cremer might have done what a lot of us would like to do but there is no way this would turn out well. Too bad. -- Al
 
I can't relate to the boss and I don't worry about rich people. They'll do just fine.
 
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That could come under cruel and unusual punishment and is covered by the 8th Amendment to the US Constitution. There are probably other US, state and local laws covering taking the law into ones own hands.

Was the act governed or sanctioned legally over there?
 
"Men charged over thief sign march

Four people have been charged after a man was escorted down an Essex high street with a "thief" sign round his neck.

The man was marched down Witham High Street on 26 September.

Four men, aged 44, 23 and two aged 22, were have been charged with false imprisonment.

They were bailed to appear before Chelmsford magistrates on 10 December. A 39-year-old man has received a caution for theft. "


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/essex/7753087.stm
 
I'm surprised that the employee was only cautioned (which I assume is not a legal term but used in its normal sense). That to me doesn't make any sense.

However, what the employer did makes even less sense. Sometimes you have think twice before taking an action and in this day and age (I don't care what country you live in) that kind of action is just bound to lead to trouble.
 
This is utterly insane. Why the courts didn't throw this out is just nonsense. No one should be able to profit from breaking the law.

There really are a lot of idiots in this world who are judges.
TD
 
In view of this fine upstanding Judge's past record, I wondered whether the learned Gent might forward me the name of a good lawyer. You see "La Commandante", with whom I live, spoke to me rather harshly today, re; making a mess with my paints. I feel that such uneccessary admonishment, may have infringed my human rights - and feel that a visit to a Government holiday camp might be in order. I'm told that the regimes in most such places are pretty relaxed, these days............%^V
Just a thought.

Hmmmmm.......................johnnybach:smile2:
 
You will note from the stories that the judges ordered those sentences rather someone forcing a suspect to do this before he was legally arrested and charged with the crime.
 
The caution was a formal police caution which, is seen as a punishment but, is a waste of time. In this case I would have thought all the criteria for a theft offence was actioned and the person arrested and charged.

However, having done lots of work with the constabulary in question I am absolutely not surprised at the failuer to prosecute.

The charges for false imprisonment were dropped but, its a harsh outcome IMO for a person who is the victim to have to face
Mitch
 
It's definitely harsh but, again, you have to think before doing something like that.

However, the punishment meted out to the mother for trying to stop her daughter from buying heroin is completely illogical.
 
Scott said:
You will note from the stories that the judges ordered those sentences rather someone forcing a suspect to do this before he was legally arrested and charged with the crime.
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Honestly, who cares? The guy was a thief not a victim and a backwards justice system allowed him to become a victim, that is ridiculous by any logic.
 
Whenever I hear these kinds of stories...I always assume there is a lot more going on than meets the eye. It can be easy to boil it down and say, "See what a stupid system we have," but when ALL the facts are on the table (from both sides) it's often not nearly as bizarre.

It makes me think of my uncle (a union leader) who repeatedly got arrested 'simply for holding a prayer service.' That prayer service just HAPPENED to be on the street outside someone's house...

We're wired to be reactionary and lay the blame on 'the system' instead of getting all the facts. Problem is, knowing both sides takes away some of the appeal of the story!
 
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