Brand Loyalty (1 Viewer)

wds0855 said:
I have a skewked way of looking at things. So for me it's not what brand or company I am loyal to, it's what is the company doing to show thier loyalty to me for being a customer for x years. If the answer is they are doing nothing, then I do not owe them any loyalty. I think companies should have rewards programs to encourage loyalty. For example, if you buy X goods in one year, or X over a set number of years it entitles you to extra discounts and perks the average fanboy doesn't get.
This covers everything, not just TS.

Just my 3 cents.

Walt
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Your 3 cents is worth a 100 cents........Reward programs would encrourage buyers.....any loss on discounts would soon be made up on extra business.....maybe someone in the TS industry will try it one day.. I think if one firm tried it...the others woukd soon follow suit..........cheers TomB
 
It is a funny subject here actually. Those that have it, regardless of the merits, won't or can't admit it and those who have it based on the merits are ridiculed by those who can't or won't see those merits. It is one of those not worth the time or breath topics.
 
Harper said:
It is a funny subject here actually. Those that have it, regardless of the merits, won't or can't admit it and those who have it based on the merits are ridiculed by those who can't or won't see those merits. It is one of those not worth the time or breath topics.
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Good point...something like a Catch 22 ?.....cheers TomB
 
My philosophy is buy what you enjoy. If it makes you happy to stay with one company. Great. If it makes you happy to buy from various companies. Great. The main thing is have fun. Toy soldiers should not be stressful! :) Brad
 
braddinpa said:
My philosophy is buy what you enjoy. If it makes you happy to stay with one company. Great. If it makes you happy to buy from various companies. Great. The main thing is have fun. Toy soldiers should not be stressful! :) Brad
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You are very wise, grasshopper.:wink2: -- Al
 
I think its all about finding a producer who's product you enjoy enough to dedicate a regular amount of money to for the purposes of building up a collection. Whilst I don't mix within a collection much I will use other producers for other eras etc. As a result and although K&C are my go to choice for WW2, I buy Toy Army Workshop for WW1 and Britains for ACW . Buy what floats your particular boat I say:smile2:

Well look at this , three pages and no arguing yet....or did I miss something!!:wink2:

Rob
 
Some great posts on here fella's and lots of interesting feedback.....thanks for contributing. As Rob says.....whatever floats ya boat and makes ya happy.{sm3}

Overall I think it's very easy to confuse 'brand loyalty' with a 'blind bias' towards a product, for example if I've spent a truck load of $'s on the same brand for a number of years, then I'm going to be a bit defensive if someone decides to criticize that product......it's only natural.

Yes, ever-one has a right to their opinion, but at the end of the day it's all about personal choice and lets be honest we're spoiled for choice when it comes to TS stuff now......heck I can remember a time when all you could buy were plastic's.

Regardless of what, who are how you collect, the bottom line is you have fun doing it.......otherwise why bother....:salute::

Cheers!!
 
Still being new to the hobby I find myself focusing on a era but not really a brand per say. Now since I am into the FIW right now JJD gets a lot of my money as they seem to make the most and widest selection in this era. What is funny is that since I like their FIW pieces so much I am looking at their other lines trying to justify them in my mind.....Mmmm Seven Years War and their Naps are very appealing.....{sm4}

I am also slowly getting into the AWI and am buying W.B. in that era. Their company representation & interaction on these forums with their customers makes me want to support them. Plus they make nice stuff and a nice price.

I tend to not be brand specific in most things in my life (outside of Apple electronics) and I do not see myself getting very brand loyal in the Toy Solider field either. If a company makes a line in a era I am interested in for a acceptable price I will buy it!
 
You say if I have spent a truck load of money on one brand and someone critiques it then, its only natural to be defensive. Can you answer me how it seems natural to you???

The person spending the boat load enjoys the product will continue buying won't they regardless of someone saying X is not right or Y is the wrong colour as its their personal like. I find nothing natural in someone going barmy because someone says they dislike a small metal figure or plastic or polystone tank. Just because that type of behaviour is accepted in a toy soldier forum/world by some does not automatically mean its natural, normal or acceptable.

I think you raised an interesting subject as its been at the crux of issues on this forum which have caused many arguments and seen people being banned so, while we focus on the ''what we buy'' it actually gets to the character and personality with all the weaknesses and strengths of the individual who is collecting brand A or Brand B. How they react is more an indication of character strength or weakness from them.

Obviously, nobody really likes to think they have anger/violence issues or a weak character so, they displace blame for that on to the individual/s who attack (in their mind) what they see as perfection in their product and, that is base for arguments and everything that goes with it.

I see a shift in the way the majority accept other people's opinions on what they like and dislike and they accept and want to know the warts and all so, to speak of the products at the prices they are now at. I looked back at a few similar threads like this over the years and everyone bar none I found ended in deletions probably infractions and the rest. That is also rather illuminating.
Mitch


Desertkiwi said:
Some great posts on here fella's and lots of interesting feedback.....thanks for contributing. As Rob says.....whatever floats ya boat and makes ya happy.{sm3}

Overall I think it's very easy to confuse 'brand loyalty' with a 'blind bias' towards a product, for example if I've spent a truck load of $'s on the same brand for a number of years, then I'm going to be a bit defensive if someone decides to criticize that product......it's only natural.

Yes, ever-one has a right to their opinion, but at the end of the day it's all about personal choice and lets be honest we're spoiled for choice when it comes to TS stuff now......heck I can remember a time when all you could buy were plastic's.

Regardless of what, who are how you collect, the bottom line is you have fun doing it.......otherwise why bother....:salute::

Cheers!!
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Mitch said:
You say if I have spent a truck load of money on one brand and someone critiques it then, its only natural to be defensive. Can you answer me how it seems natural to you???

The person spending the boat load enjoys the product will continue buying won't they regardless of someone saying X is not right or Y is the wrong colour as its their personal like. I find nothing natural in someone going barmy because someone says they dislike a small metal figure or plastic or polystone tank. Just because that type of behaviour is accepted in a toy soldier forum/world by some does not automatically mean its natural, normal or acceptable.

I think you raised an interesting subject as its been at the crux of issues on this forum which have caused many arguments and seen people being banned so, while we focus on the ''what we buy'' it actually gets to the character and personality with all the weaknesses and strengths of the individual who is collecting brand A or Brand B. How they react is more an indication of character strength or weakness from them.

Obviously, nobody really likes to think they have anger/violence issues or a weak character so, they displace blame for that on to the individual/s who attack (in their mind) what they see as perfection in their product and, that is base for arguments and everything that goes with it.

I see a shift in the way the majority accept other people's opinions on what they like and dislike and they accept and want to know the warts and all so, to speak of the products at the prices they are now at. I looked back at a few similar threads like this over the years and everyone bar none I found ended in deletions probably infractions and the rest. That is also rather illuminating.
Mitch
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Mitch,
Not answering for Todd but here is a different perspective. No surprise I have a different view to you.

I don't think people have an issue with somebody criticising an item or saying they think it is too expensive or they will not buy it etc. That is fine. However what can become an issue is when somebody keeps repeating their negative views ad nauseam. If somebody clearly does not like something and will not be buying it why do some feel the need to constantly remind others about their negative thoughts ? In some cases the repetition seems to suggest to those who do like/buy an item that somehow there is something wrong with them for doing so. If you don't think an item is good value or inaccurate by all means say so. However there does come a point when such comments become so frequent that some might find it excessive and it can take away the fun of sharing their satisfaction with an item they have purchased.

This is an interesting comment ; "nobody really likes to think they have anger/violence issues or a weak character so, they displace blame for that on to the individual/s who attack (in their mind) what they see as perfection in their product". I simply do not get the concept that somebody has to have "anger/violence issues or a weak character" simply because they have the opposite view to the person(s) who to use your words are attacking what they see as perfection. Even your use of the word perfection is a kind of put down to those who think differently to you. Try to understand that each person on this forum spends their own hard earned money as they see fit. If you say an item is not good value it does not mean all others should have the same view as you. You are not an expert on how other people should spend their money.

Food for thought and no need to answer. Once you have decided an item is not good value, is wrong in some way or wont be buying it etc how many posts / threads is enough to get this opinion across before is crosses a line and becomes excessive.

As regards people being banned I get the impression you are all for people saying what they like even though it may create a negative forum environment. There are three forms of banning on this forum. There is the lower level one when some members are getting into a dispute in a specific thread and the Mods ban one or more from it. The next step is banning people from certain brand areas and this has usually taken place after a period of time and I would guess a number of complaints from members. The most serious banning is total banning from the forum and this is a rare event. Overall I think TF and the Mods have used their banning powers very well and I doubt anybody has been too surprised when some of the obviously provocative members have finally been removed as members.

When you were looking back at the old threads did you notice which member has had the most deletions and arguments with the most variety of people ? Now that would be illuminating.

Just my thoughts.

Brett
 
jazzeum said:
With the last two posts, let the games begin! ^&grin
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Was the question about what individuals typically have deletions and suspensions and partial Bans on threads like this over the years? That's easy - there are only a few. ^&grin

And the guilty are *****, ***, *******, ********, *************, ****************, ********* {eek3}
 
Phantom Warrior said:
Was the question about what individuals typically have deletions and suspensions and partial Bans on threads like this over the years? That's easy - there are only a few. ^&grin

And the guilty are *****, ***, *******, ********, *************, ****************, ********* {eek3}
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Yup, I knew it was them :wink2:
 
Brett...

We do indeed and its only that this thread however expected won't turn into a barny!!! Mind, I did think I saw some displacement going on in your post but, hey that's for another day LOL!! The point is and we must agree on this also is that losing ones temper, reacting with violence defending them to the death or, as has happened even here trying to make it a personal issue etc is not the normal sane human reaction that we should be seeing over Toy soldiers (in fact any issue really) Brand loyalty taken to the extreme manifests itself in these ways. The good thing with this forum is that one can trawl through posts if one wishes to get the whole story.

So, while I have no issues with people believing that what they buy is the best thing since sliced bread (as we all do or, how insane would it be to buy stuff we don't like??) its the over the top reactions to any critique justified or other that is at issue.
Mitch



The Military Workshop said:
Mitch,
Good to see we agree on something{sm4}
Brett
PS Brad, sorry to disappoint on this one^&grin.
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I'm quite partial to a Little Legion set or two ^&grin :tongue:

Cheers

Martyn:)
 
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