Current Interest In a King&Country Made .....Stuka (1 Viewer)

[Hatman]

Thought it would be an interesting discussion to gauge the demand if King&Country went ahead and completed a 1/30 Polystone Stuka. O'le Howard aka NorthGatewoods
gave us some info from Brisbane last week stating the prototype looked promising,but nothing for sure yet. The other issue at the current moment may be the price of
this polystone warbird. To me if the price hovered around $399.00 I would be in on it no problem. Even though I and others may have the Figarti version I would think a K&C version would be extremely popular. Given the fact that only 99 were produced by Figarti and JJD backed off from production on their version. To me the door is still
wide open and welcome for this polystone Stuka if feasable. Imagine a Winter whitewash version and a Desert Stuka done as a 250 series release !!!
What say YOU ???????

Last September, I was at Sierra Toy Soldier and when we were talking with Andy about K&C making a Stuka, he mentioned that if and the key word is "if" they were to make a Stuka, that it would probably be made out of wood, he said he didn't think that polystone would be strong enough.

 

[uksubs]

To me with Figarti making a stuka already is there a market for a different stuka , these planes are not small or cheap and can't see many wanting more than one

 

[wayne556517]

Would bet my collection K&C would not do a Rudel after one so similar - apart from some white paint applied - had been made and released. Not sure that having a named pilot means that much IMO. I mean the 262 was supposed to be Gallands but, we know that was not true but, its still available, was quite expensive, and limited. How many on here can name other famous stuka pilots apart from Rudel?? Not sure it really matters who flew it so long as its done right. An incorrect version but, of a named pilot, would not make me fork out anything for it.

Time will tell I suppose
Mitch

Sturzkamphfflugzeug pilot i would like to see is
Heinz Migeod

 

[OzDigger]

Here would be a nice K&C version : Rudel's last Stuka 1945 Winter Version

Thanks PA, I haven't seen a pic of Rudels last Stuka before, that is a sweet looking color scheme. In my diecast aircraft collection I have Rudels earlier ride in 1/72 (Corgi) and 1/48 scale (Franklinmint), the later scale being my favorite size (not to big and not to small).

As for the pilot discussion, lesser known pilots don't sell nearly as well unless they flew an aircraft with a popular color scheme. There were some great looking Stukas in the North African Theater, and Battle of Britain versions have always been popular with Brit collectors.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

Last September, I was at Sierra Toy Soldier and when we were talking with Andy about K&C making a Stuka, he mentioned that if and the key word is "if" they were to make a Stuka, that it would probably be made out of wood, he said he didn't think that polystone would be strong enough.

Hmmmm, The wood would definately be lighter than polystone without a doubt and should solve the excessive weight/ shipping issues already mentioned.Put a clear
canopy on it and a eye catching paint scheme ........................ The comment about Figarti already making the plane bears little weight here. 99 made and they keep
at least 1 or 2 so that leaves 97 left out of which how many of those arrived to their owners in mint condition ? 70 % or so . I would be one of those buying another
version if made.

 

[Mitch]

Wayne..

I should have said apart from you. Would you want Heinz's aircraft in the colourway when they fought in crete and the med or other?

PA....

Its quite relevant about Figarti as its something Andy must be taking note off as they are having problems and they use different mediums. I would not know the rate that they are falling apart probably faster than we shot them down in the BOB

Unless its a mixed medium then if your using wood which has to be carved etc how can they be affordable for most collectors as thats what they are doing with the expensive airbirds. I would think if Andy starts down this road it could affect the wooden airbirds exclusivity.

Its been polystone, metal and now wood mentioned and, supposedly a prototype is made I wonder why Andy does not mention what mediums they are using or thinking off. It can't be secret as we have one on the market now and, it would be interesting to hear how they are using other mediums to solve this problem
Mitch

Sturzkamphfflugzeug pilot i would like to see is
Heinz Migeod

 

[Currahee Chris]

No interest here in Currahee Country whatsoever.

You folks out there clammering for this Stuka, if the man says its going to be delayed or just not gonna happen because he has concerns about the durability of the piece then maybe it's time to let it go. I really can't say I'd blame the guy for not releasing it given how unforgiving collectors are when their tanks or field guns arrived damaged. I cannot imagine the furor that would occur if one of these things landed with snapped landing gear or what have you.

In the end, I just can't see a win for K&C with this at all, especially if they feel rushed to put one out there.

 

[HAWKEYE]

imo, a stuka at a price-point of $400-$500 is a non-starter for most collectors. It will be the kind of thing the majority will look at, whistle at, say "thats really beautiful", see the price, and then move on to the next item. Of course there are going to be well-heeled collectors who will buy them and the fan who has been waiting for 'his absolute favorite aircraft of all time', so he will buy. But at that price point, it will not be a huge seller to the general collecting population. As several on this thread have pointed out, even with their very limited nature, the more expensive aircraft releases can still be found. Bring the stuka in a $250-$300 and it will sell. At $400-$500 it will sit. Jjd obviously must have felt this breaking point and thus cancelled the stuka. Remember, jmo.:wink2: -- al

i guess for me, at $500 why not get a wooden version for $1200. It would be more solid and last longer

 

[HAWKEYE]

for the most part 350 would be about my max for a price point, although there may be exceptions. At 400, i would delay as i have done for the me-110 and the owl. I had the chance to buy the ak 110 but declined. A single winged a/c for that price is too much imho. The detail of the typhoon did not meet the extravagant cost.

just to let you know. The owl is so so nice. You ought to call a deal and try to talk them down a little. Whatever you do do not miss out on this beauty. It is solid and well done. Good hunting. Hawkeye

 

[uksubs]

No interest here in Currahee Country whatsoever.

You folks out there clammering for this Stuka, if the man says its going to be delayed or just not gonna happen because he has concerns about the durability of the piece then maybe it's time to let it go. I really can't say I'd blame the guy for not releasing it given how unforgiving collectors are when their tanks or field guns arrived damaged. I cannot imagine the furor that would occur if one of these things landed with snapped landing gear or what have you.

In the end, I just can't see a win for K&C with this at all, especially if they feel rushed to put one out there.

Think you make a good point Chris

 

[Currahee Chris]

Think you make a good point Chris

Cheers to that Neil.

Let me just clarify I think the Stuka can be a hit for KC if and when they decide to produce it on their terms. To just put one out there because everyone else is doing it right now would be reckless.

Nothing wrong with going to another company for your "Holy Grail" item. I hoped and prayed KC would do an Abrams. They didnt- Figarti did so Figarti got my money. No big loss for KC as for whatever reason they felt it wasnt a feasible choice.

 

[PanzerAce1944]

No interest here in Currahee Country whatsoever.

You folks out there clammering for this Stuka, if the man says its going to be delayed or just not gonna happen because he has concerns about the durability of the piece then maybe it's time to let it go. I really can't say I'd blame the guy for not releasing it given how unforgiving collectors are when their tanks or field guns arrived damaged. I cannot imagine the furor that would occur if one of these things landed with snapped landing gear or what have you.

In the end, I just can't see a win for K&C with this at all, especially if they feel rushed to put one out there.

Currahee, Do you collect or have any WWII aircraft at present ?

 

[uksubs]

Wayne..

I should have said apart from you. Would you want Heinz's aircraft in the colourway when they fought in crete and the med or other?

PA....

Its quite relevant about Figarti as its something Andy must be taking note off as they are having problems and they use different mediums. I would not know the rate that they are falling apart probably faster than we shot them down in the BOB


Mitch

Rofl .nice one mate

 

[PanzerAce1944]

A few things for me would decide if I got a Stuka should K&C produce one. The variant and camo, the price are two biggies for me, I personally think a Stuka would look superb hung from the ceiling as a) its fixed undercarriage lends itself very well to this and b) it would solve the space issue as a 1/30 Stuka would take up some considerable space. All these factors thrown together would decide the issue for me.

Rob

Rob, Some pretty reasonable points you have made here !

 

[uksubs]

A few things for me would decide if I got a Stuka should K&C produce one. The variant and camo, the price are two biggies for me, I personally think a Stuka would look superb hung from the ceiling as a) its fixed undercarriage lends itself very well to this and b) it would solve the space issue as a 1/30 Stuka would take up some considerable space. All these factors thrown together would decide the issue for me.

Rob

Rob it one thing hanging plastic model aeroplanes from a ceiling but a heavy polystyrene plane you just paid £500.00 ^&confuse you would need a health and safety sign next to that mate if that came done lol

 

[Mitch]

certainly would not do it with a polystone aircraft. Mind, if you were after a true battle scene from BOB then there are some on the market that come ready made for the effect of meeting up with the spits and Hurricanes of the RAF
Mitch

Rob it one thing hanging plastic model aeroplanes from a ceiling but a heavy polystyrene plane you just paid £500.00 ^&confuse you would need a health and safety sign next to that mate if that came done lol

 

[PanzerAce1944]

So in theory since Figarti did the Rudel version of the Stuka what would be the prefered version for K&C ?

A) Winter Camo paintscheme B) AK desert C) Blitzkrieg Poland 1939

Me personally would take the Winter or Blitzkrieg first based on choices available.

 

[Mitch]

Battle of Britain would seem the obvious early war stuka
Mitch

 

[Currahee Chris]

Currahee, Do you collect or have any WWII aircraft at present ?

Upon cross examination I would have to admit I do not {sm4}

That being said ,the P51 and the Stuka are my two favorite WW2 airplanes and I am watching the developments with great interest.

 

[wayne556517]

Either of these 2 Mitch.