Monthly Max Posting Conversation (1 Viewer)

[jazzeum]

Taking the bull by the horns, I've started a poll on the issue. The poll is anonymous, i.e. only you know your vote.

Y'all know where I stand.

 

[lancer]

Now that I have read all these posts and see what the new policy is all about, I am quite against it, in any form. If the forum isn't for posting and discussing, however many times one wants to, what's the point? If an individuals post irritates the reader, then don't read it! I am of the habit of skipping over what I feel is frivolous. It really isn't that hard. No need to go complaining to the moderators unless a post is truly offensive and violates common sense and courtesy. People get argumentative on subjects, that's just human nature, like it or not. Why try to stop it? It is part of the forum and is responsible for many of the fine points and learning experiences that members may profit from. A post restriction will kill interest and participation. It has to by it's very nature. And if such a policy gets put in place, why make exceptions? Restrict all threads, or restrict no threads. Keep it simple or the rule book will grow to the point of being ridiculous and it will just make the moderators jobs more difficult. They do that job on their own time and good will, so why put more pressure on them, both time and judgement wise? Once exceptions are made, the slippery slope gets a lot steeper. I really enjoy the freedom of being able to post when and how I want, without being concerned about a number restriction. It all just seems unnecessary. -- Al

 

[The Military Workshop]

"1) Encourage much longer posts to make them worthwhile. No more posts that just say "nice dio" "

Nice rule!

Nice Post !

 

[The Military Workshop]

Oops, decided to edit as that previous post felt like a waste (but then got caught by the time limit for editing !!{sm2}).

As has been pointed out a 250 limit will seriously affect the enjoyment of a few and probably have no affect on some others who are more disruptive than those who make over 250 posts per month.

There are some on this forum who could probably be a bit more moderate in how they post. I am referring to those who seem to enjoy making snide comments and tend to be more negative when they appear in certain areas of the forum. To me it is not the number of posts they make but the higher proportion of their posts that have snide comments or are intended as a put down. In some cases it is very hard to moderate but there are probably also indicators that forum members can not see (ie. often things are missed by forum members but will have been noted by the Mods).

In the past we have seen people banned from certain areas or certain threads and I think that is an effective tool the moderators have used (and still applies in some cases). Obviously the Mods have a good idea of who the most troublesome might be and this would be partly seen from deletions. However some distinction should be made between what people are deleted for as most are a reaction to the first deletion which as a general rule starts a series of deletions. In some cases there may not be deletions but it could be the frequency of justified complaints about a particular person. The Mods and TF would have a far better idea of the overall situation about who is being disruptive (I am not taking about posts about damage or quality issues here). In some cases of new members other members have quite quickly picked up a negative vibe about the manner in which that member has been posting. I wont mention examples but I am pretty sure the Mods and TF can quite easily identify those who seem to be more interested in getting into fights, being rude or snide or have an agenda as opposed to actually being interested in discussing soldiers in a friendly manner. In addition I would allow for the "gut" feeling of the Mods and TF who I am pretty confident know a troublemaker when they read one.

I know there is an infraction system etc but it does seem in the past it can take a while for effective control measures to take place. I would like to emphasise here I am not talking about a lot of people but a very small number of obvious cases over the past years.

It is hard for me to know what goes on behind the scenes but I would prefer, after suitable warnings etc, more "time outs" and bannings from certain areas, than the draconian 250 limit. The 250 limit will certainly limit discussion as others have pointed out and judging by posts over the past few days I can see that after about 20 days this place could go very quiet as some members run out of posts.

So my suggestion is more action against individuals rather than the 250 limit which is only going to affect a small group (note : three of those most affected for various reasons spend a lot of time at home and hence have high post counts).

Regards
Brett
PS When seeking help today with posting a lot of photos (more to come) I had to share the load. I know Waynepoo would have been happy to help with all of them but after the 250 rule came in I asked others instead.

 

[theBaron]

...As has been pointed out a 250 limit will seriously affect the enjoyment of a few and probably have no affect on some others...

Good point. I decided to look a little closer at how the rule might impact me. How many posts do I make, averaged by day?

I joined in March 2008. I don't have the exact date, so I used 1. March 2008 as a start date, through today. That's 1605 days. I've made 5469 posts, not counting this one, which gives an average of 3.41 posts per day. In 31 days, that's approximately 105 posts.

Now, a limit of 250 posts over 31 days gives an average of 8.1 posts per day, if my math is correct.

Personally, I don't have a problem with the limit, in any case.

Prost!
Brad

 

[johnnybach]

Now IF it was a word limit - I might find it a problem - but as it is just a POST limit - then - What's the problem?

If it does help reduce all of the tiresome "nice one Cyril" stuff and the like - then I for one, won't mind at all.

It's YOUR Forum Peter - and I'll go with anything you wish to provide us - with many thanks. - Johnnybach

 

[Mitch]

if someone takes the effort of building a dio or a scene is it not expected that fellow collectors should be able to compliment them and usually the best way is just to say nice dio for some or, onya mate from some of our antipodean members. Thats just a pat on the back isn't it surely that cannot be wrong?
Mitch

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Now IF it was a word limit - I might find it a problem - but as it is just a POST limit - then - What's the problem?

If it does help reduce all of the tiresome "nice one Cyril" stuff and the like - then I for one, won't mind at all.

It's YOUR Forum Peter - and I'll go with anything you wish to provide us - with many thanks. - Johnnybach

With you on that JB - to keep a bit of perspective, the number represents 3,000 per annum, which means that even those aspirants to Rob's astounding contribution could achieve it in just over 7 years, and a Brig Gen would come up in just over 3. It's great to have goals and these are practical for anyone dedicated to the task; with a lap top or a mobile phone and a string of 'nice pic' responses, one can have a promotion that just couldn't be had in the real armed services {sm3} - ideal for Toy Soldiers. I'm for giving it a go in its raw state and testing its delivery on merit; there's never been a perfect system as is the case with the forum in its present state so change or 'steerage' is always on the cards - but a ship that's not moving cannot be steered {sm3}

 

[joesgis]

Well this is going to be about as much a surprise as tomorrow being Tuesday, but the new policy is bad news for me I'm afraid. I know I'm in a minority in how often I post, but its going to spoil my enjoyment of the forum a great deal. Dispatches is the obvious area where I personally will be hit hard. Its my own particular favourite part of the forum and it then spills into other threads that branch out from it. I've always enjoyed the discussion and debates that are formed in the days after the first each month and very much enjoy putting up pics, engaging with other members in what they like/don't like etc. Along with Dispatches if I should then put up a dio/scene/ historical discussion thread then as my American friends might say ' forget about it', my 250 will be gone in a flash leaving me locked out and unable to post. The very fact that we will have to be guarded about how often we post will just kill the spontaneity in my view, humour, birthday wishes, comments on other dio's will all be curtailed, for what purpose?

How about if there are complaints of someone dominating a thread the mods could ask the person if they'd mind stepping back for a day or two, if they refuse then maybe they could be locked out of that thread as happens now and again. Speaking for myself if a mod wrote and said ' Rob can you give it a rest from so many posts in one thread' I would hope I would be obliging enough to comply with that.

I know as a prolific poster I am a lone voice here, but I feel this is a policy that will spoil my enjoyment of this forum.

Rob

All great points Rob that I vehemently support.

Joe

 

[Rob]

All great points Rob that I vehemently support.

Joe

Thanks Joe, I think it an awful decision, my forum experience will be ruined mate, eight posts a day, that is nothing , I do about forty on Dispatches day, dozens on show day's and that is not including various threads, birthday wishes, dio's of my own and other peoples, no Joe I'm afraid it will end my time here. I can't be told when and how often I can post, I'm not ten years old.

All the best mate

Rob

 

[uksubs]

Thanks Joe, I think it an awful decision, my forum experience will be ruined mate, eight posts a day, that is nothing , I do about forty on Dispatches day, dozens on show day's and that is not including various threads, birthday wishes, dio's of my own and other peoples, no Joe I'm afraid it will end my time here. I can't be told when and how often I can post, I'm not ten years old.

All the best mate

Rob

Well said Rob {bravo}}

 

[theBaron]

if someone takes the effort of building a dio or a scene is it not expected that fellow collectors should be able to compliment them and usually the best way is just to say nice dio for some or, onya mate from some of our antipodean members. Thats just a pat on the back isn't it surely that cannot be wrong?
Mitch

Some webware includes features like a "thumbs-up" or "like" for users to choose, to post an "attaboy" to a thread, without having to add positive yet brief responses that do tend to lengthen threads without adding to the overall content. PlanetFigure is built with software that now includes a "like" button. I wonder if our software includes such a feature.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Some webware includes features like a "thumbs-up" or "like" for users to choose, to post an "attaboy" to a thread, without having to add positive yet brief responses that do tend to lengthen threads without adding to the overall content. PlanetFigure is built with software that now includes a "like" button. I wonder if our software includes such a feature.

Prost!
Brad

Just a clarifying question Brad - are we talking Clayton's posts here (ie a post that doesn't include personal commentary and is not counted as a post)?

 

[Northgate Woods]

Thanks Joe, I think it an awful decision, my forum experience will be ruined mate, eight posts a day, that is nothing , I do about forty on Dispatches day, dozens on show day's and that is not including various threads, birthday wishes, dio's of my own and other peoples, no Joe I'm afraid it will end my time here. I can't be told when and how often I can post, I'm not ten years old.

All the best mate

Rob

Rob mate,
I put to you and maybe Pete that the number of posts per month could be based on your rank. The higher in rank you are on the Forum the more posts per month you are able to do. ie A private may have a limit of say 200 and an Officer 300 on up to a General with say 500.
There is an old army saying that "Rank does have its privileges"
Just my thoughts to take the heart ache out of this subject.
Cheers Howard

 

[Mitch]

Brad...

On other threads or forums if you post such a thing is it not still a seperate post and would it, or does it, not still make for a lengthy thread?
Mitch

Some webware includes features like a "thumbs-up" or "like" for users to choose, to post an "attaboy" to a thread, without having to add positive yet brief responses that do tend to lengthen threads without adding to the overall content. PlanetFigure is built with software that now includes a "like" button. I wonder if our software includes such a feature.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Rob]

Rob mate,
I put to you and maybe Pete that the number of posts per month could be based on your rank. The higher in rank you are on the Forum the more posts per month you are able to do. ie A private may have a limit of say 200 and an Officer 300 on up to a General with say 500.
There is an old army saying that "Rank does have its privileges"
Just my thoughts to take the heart ache out of this subject.
Cheers Howard

Howard,

Its a good idea mate but I don't think they will go for it, and no doubt those that complained about people as myself posting too much will be even more enraged. Not to worry Howard , all good things come to an end as they say, but will see you in that bar next year for a drink my friend:wink2:

Rob

 

[theBaron]

Brad...

On other threads or forums if you post such a thing is it not still a seperate post and would it, or does it, not still make for a lengthy thread?
Mitch

No, it's not counted as a separate post. At Planet Figure, for example, each post shows a count of likes that members have added, without actually adding a new post to the thread. Each person who clicks the "Like" button/link for a thread sees a message that he and x number of others like the thread. Anyone who hasn't clicked the button just sees a message that x number of others like the thread.

Now that I think of it, it's similar to the "like" feature in Facebook, too. You can click to like something, without actually adding a comment.

Prost!
Brad

 

[Fitzgibbon]

Rob mate,
I put to you and maybe Pete that the number of posts per month could be based on your rank. The higher in rank you are on the Forum the more posts per month you are able to do. ie A private may have a limit of say 200 and an Officer 300 on up to a General with say 500.
There is an old army saying that "Rank does have its privileges"
Just my thoughts to take the heart ache out of this subject.
Cheers Howard

Nice sentiment Howard, and I'm sure we all feel sympathy for Rob's perception of his situation - however, perceptions of privelege are at the core of the issue, and whatever the policy, it must apply universally - a point made earlier by a number of posters. Outside the army, rank is just that - rank! 3,000 per annum is more than even Rob's impressive tally - perhaps the carbon credits model could be the answer...or sharing credits in a group..and by the way, none of us is ten years old...if only?!{sm0}{sm4}

 

[jazzeum]

It's not just a question of rank in and of itself but contribution and there can be no doubting that Rob has made an enormous contribution to this Forum so in this case why should rank not have its privilege.

 

[jules118]

I think that we debate the merits of this decision until the cows come home. I think the thing that everybody should keep in mind is that it's a decision that would not have been taken lightly. It's a RESPONSE to how some of us guests (lets not forget that is what we are) have behaved in this forum. It may be heavy handed, but such is life.

Maybe if we considered how we behaved, the level of respect and maturity we show when interacting on the forum and the perceptions it creates well then it may not have reached this point. But it has and as this is a military related forum I think we should apply a more soldierly attitude. Quit whining, suck it up... take on board why it happened, learn from those mistakes and get used to working with what you have, not what you want.

jules