My Western European Diorama Under Construction (1 Viewer)

Hope you get the water feature correct Tom, you have this dio nailed currently at 90%, just this last aspect and the fun starts with adding figures and vehicles. Cannot wait to see the final result, so close now. Robin.
 
Real nice diorama Mike. Love the mixture of foliage which enhances the indians and canoe. Hope your water pour turns out ok Tom. I should be receiving my majic water soon and will be doing my own pours. Regards Greg.

Hope you get the water feature correct Tom, you have this dio nailed currently at 90%, just this last aspect and the fun starts with adding figures and vehicles. Cannot wait to see the final result, so close now. Robin.

Thanks Greg and Robin and I'm looking forward to seeing the end result after your pour Greg. I'm getting close to finishing and just have the water pour left to do, finish grassing the rocky hill (have done over 3/4's so far) and planting some more flowers.

I wasn't sure if I should do a clear pour or a pour with a colour mixed in so I did some test pours in small plastic containers with 3 different colours (one colour the same as Mike's) and also a clear pour with no colour. I glued some sand on the bottom of the containers beforehand and then painted and dry brushed the sand so each container resembled my creek bed. I also put a bit of "timber" in each container as well. I'm not sure which colour/clear pour I like best as they all look good. Bit of a dilemma but I'll decide on the colour or no colour over the weekend. The magic water is definitely good to use and it looks great when it hardens.

Tom
 

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Outstanding diorama !

The detail on the vegetation is amazing !

Quality of your work certainly shows.

Thank you for posting this.
 
Thanks Greg and Robin and I'm looking forward to seeing the end result after your pour Greg. I'm getting close to finishing and just have the water pour left to do, finish grassing the rocky hill (have done over 3/4's so far) and planting some more flowers.

I wasn't sure if I should do a clear pour or a pour with a colour mixed in so I did some test pours in small plastic containers with 3 different colours (one colour the same as Mike's) and also a clear pour with no colour. I glued some sand on the bottom of the containers beforehand and then painted and dry brushed the sand so each container resembled my creek bed. I also put a bit of "timber" in each container as well. I'm not sure which colour/clear pour I like best as they all look good. Bit of a dilemma but I'll decide on the colour or no colour over the weekend. The magic water is definitely good to use and it looks great when it hardens.

Tom

Tom...

I'm glad you swapped over to the Unreal Detail's Magic Water...

I think you're going to find this product much superior to the Woodland Scenic's Realistic Water...

you're smart to do a few sample tests to see what you like...
 
Tom, always good to try a couple of samples like you are doing. It is also best to let them cure longer then the recommended to see how they set. I actually prefer Woodlands products probably because I am use to them. I have tried Magic water and others including industrial clear sealants and it just depends on the look you are after and what is comfortable to you. One suggestion is to look at images of actual water to see what you want to duplicate. Do you want still water, moving splashes, light current, and so on. Use those looks to shade the floor or bank of the creek to give you a good look. You can also add stuff between layers to give a 3 dimensional effect. Looking at what you have done so far and getting advice from Mike, you can not go wrong. I am anxious to see the outcome. Hope this helps. Chris Here are a couple of examples:

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Tom...

I'm glad you swapped over to the Unreal Detail's Magic Water...

I think you're going to find this product much superior to the Woodland Scenic's Realistic Water...

you're smart to do a few sample tests to see what you like...

Thanks Mike and the winner is....hmm, still thinking {sm2}

Tom, always good to try a couple of samples like you are doing. It is also best to let them cure longer then the recommended to see how they set. I actually prefer Woodlands products probably because I am use to them. I have tried Magic water and others including industrial clear sealants and it just depends on the look you are after and what is comfortable to you. One suggestion is to look at images of actual water to see what you want to duplicate. Do you want still water, moving splashes, light current, and so on. Use those looks to shade the floor or bank of the creek to give you a good look. You can also add stuff between layers to give a 3 dimensional effect. Looking at what you have done so far and getting advice from Mike, you can not go wrong. I am anxious to see the outcome. Hope this helps. Chris Here are a couple of examples:

Thanks for the advice, info and pic's Chris, you have done some very nice diorama's. I really like the moving water effect but I also like the still water effect that I have seen on Mike's diorama's. I still have a full bottle and a bit left of the WS Realistic Water so I may buy some moving water effects and create a dio in the future with running water.

Tom
 
Chris...

I like the water effects you created...you do nice work...

I bought a bottle of the Woodland Scenic's "Water Effects" to create some ripples and turbulence on a few dioramas a some years ago...

is that what you used?

I liked the effect it gave me...but have not used it that often...

I did some "splashing/rippling effects" around the tip and sides of a Jenkin's canoe...but realized that once the Water Effects dried on top of the Magic Water foundation...that the diorama wasn't versatile to other size water vessels...the pattern of splashes I created to fit the canoe...was only good for that canoe...and I didn't want to be limited to just one size boat on my diorama...

I also roughed up the entire river once...with the Woodland Scenic's Water Effects...but my canoe wouldn't sit level on the peaks of the currents...so I got away from the product...

also a few years ago I did a diorama with a waterfall...instead of the Woodland Scenic's Water Effects...I used clear silicone in a tube...I just squirted some on a piece of wax paper and manipulated it with a fork to get a "flowing river" effect...once dried...I peeled it off and glued it to the mountain side splashing into the river bed...it was my first attempt and I was never happy with it......

the clear silicone is really cheap compared to the Woodland Scenic's Water Effects...seems to do the same job...it's also compatible with acrylic paint...I used white to give it some turbulence/splashing effect...
 

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Mike, yes, used very thin layers of Realistic Water and then the Water Effects. Tried a number of things which included Hodge Podge Matt covering wood finishing urethanes, sealants, melted virgin plastic, silicon and the Woodland product. I just got use to Woodland. Thank you all for your compliments, now back to Tom and his incredible diorama. Some point, we should start a thread on water to see what everyone else uses. Chris
 
Gents and ladies

Well, the rains have come and now I have some water in my creek! ^&grin The pours went well using the Magic Water product and I ended up doing 2 pours, one about a 1/4 of an inch thick and the other about half that thickness. I made the decision to mix moss green paint in with the water and I think the end result looks great. Thanks Mike for the info and paint tips. Magic Water is definitely great to use but I will say make sure you follow the instructions and mix the water really well. I stirred the part A and part B mixtures for nearly 10 minutes and then almost the same with the paint! Bit of an over kill but it's better to be safe than sorry. I did get a bit of a wicking effect from the water which is when the water climbs or attaches onto an object. In my case the wicking affected my grasses at the waters edge. It's not to bad though and it didn't affect many parts of the creek. I'll fix some areas by replacing the grass with new grass tuffs. It was my error and I should have glued the grass a bit further back from the waters edge, similar to how Mike has done his creek banks. A learning curve for next time!

The rocky hill is coming along nicely and I have almost finished grassing in between the rocks and crevasses. Once that is done i'll finish the dio with some more flowers and then attach the power lines to the poles.

Here are some pic's and I have again used some K&C vehicles and figures to give you an idea of scale.

Tom
 

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Last lot, hope you enjoy.

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Mate i take my hat off to you that looks absolutely magnificent well done cobber you must be pleased.
 
Great work Tom, lessons learnt lead to better dioramas as you do more...........:salute::
 
Yup, I never doubted you Tom, you were going to get the water effect right. Now the diorama is complete, just need to find lots of ways to introduce figures and vehicles to compliment your work over and over again. The era's I collect would do well with this excellent terrain. Let me know when you want to move it on^&grin, Robin.
 
Tom...

that is a really nice piece of work...with the scenic props you chose...that diorama is versatile for any figures within the last 300 years...the buildings are timeless in design and your Mother Nature groundwork choices could actually be found anywhere in the world today...I know you poured your heart and soul into this diorama...a total labor of love...I hope you enjoy it for years to come...great job...

when do you start the next one...^&grin...?
 

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