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jazzeum said:
I agree with you Paulo. I thought the T Wolves were going to win this one but they stopped scoring when it mattered and, as the Knicks announcer said, they stole one.

Did you notice that the T Wolves shirt said Muskies. This was to honor the Minnesota Muskies of the old American Basketball Association who played one year in Minnesota before they moved to Florida and became the Floridians.

Brad
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It's always a win anyway, suddenly they have 5 in a row under their belts, how far could they go in the future?
Saw the Lakers win at Toronto, really unconvincing display apart from the 1st quarter, but Kobe turned up at the end when it mattered (2 buckets and 1 assist to end it all).
Really didn't know about the Muskies, had heard of the Floridians and love those throwback jerseys...
I would say that basketball is far and away the most popular American born sport worldwide, and a lot of that has to do with the NBA (quite popular here amongst basketball lovers). I guess you must have noticed how the best international players get drafted to the NBA, look at the Spanish (Gasol brothers, Rubio, Calderon, Fernandez, Ibaka...).

Paulo
 
I'm having a hard time understanding this...that's a lot of money...

Allen Iverson has reportedly gone from 11-time NBA all-star to financial deadbeat. The Philadelphia 76ers icon was recently ordered to pay over $860,000 to a jeweler, and he couldn't cut a check.

A Georgia judge has ordered the seizing of Iverson's bank account, so the relatively little money he has left will be garnished, reports the Philadelphia Inquirer.

This isn't just another formerly famous athlete blowing a ton of cash. Iverson was among the biggest superstars in the NBA, earning more than $154 million during a professional career that began back in 1996. (This doesn't include endorsement money and other business deals.)

How did Iverson lose so much?

Loyal to his friends from a youth spent in Virginia, Iverson traveled with one of the biggest posses in professional sports. Bill Lyon of the Philadelphia Inquirer says the group has as many as 50 people for some Sixers home games. "A.I." took a hair stylist on the road with him and also loved to buy jewelry for himself and his beloved mother, Ann Iverson.

Iverson felt he owed his childhood friends from the old neighborhood because "They made me." The feeling was, without them protecting him from the mean streets, he would have never made it to the NBA.

Apparently they also unmade him.

Despite rumored interest from the Lakers, Iverson is more likely to find playing time and (more importantly) cash outside the U.S. in a place like Puerto Rico.
 
here's another NBA diddy from today's news...

"Floyd Mayweather Hits Jeremy Lin On Race"

Floyd Mayweather is not going all Lin.

The outspoken boxer who once told rival Manny Pacquiao, a Filipino, to "make some sushi rolls and cook some rice" has retained the title of heavyweight champion of insensitivity by claiming New York Knicks point guard Jeremy Lin is getting national attention for his race rather than his game.

"Jeremy Lin is a good player," Mayweather tweeted Monday, "but all the hype is because he's Asian. Black players do what he does every night and don't get the same praise."

Black players outscore Kobe Bryant every night? Black players who went undrafted rack up at least 20points and seven assists in each of their first four career starts? Black players go from D-League DNPs to leading the Knicks to five straight wins?

Yes, Lin being Asian is a big part of the story. He's the first American-born player of Taiwanese or Chinese descent to play in the NBA. That's different, and therefore newsworthy. There would probably also be a lot of hype if, say, a black golfer came out of Stanford and started winning golf majors. Or if, just hypothetically, two black sisters from Compton dominated the world of tennis.

But "Money" probably never thought of that.

Mayweather's comments are ignorant, but what's also disturbing is that there really aren't too many Asian voices to shout bigotry down. Jason Whitlock should have been fired for his awful joke about Lin's anatomy, but don't look for that to happen. What Floyd said isn't nearly as bad, but clearly the half-baked theories that demean Asian-Americans in this country are not as curtailed or chided as they should be. That's in part because there haven't been too many Asian voices in sports media. There haven't been too many respected Asian coaches in the major sports. And let's face it, there haven't been too many outspoken Asian superstars anywhere in American pop culture. Pacquiao, ironically, is one of the most celebrated Asian athletes of our time.

Maybe at some point he'll have a chance to reply to Floyd with his fists.
 
mikemiller1955 said:
I'm having a hard time understanding this...that's a lot of money...

Allen Iverson has reportedly gone from 11-time NBA all-star to financial deadbeat. The Philadelphia 76ers icon was recently ordered to pay over $860,000 to a jeweler, and he couldn't cut a check.

A Georgia judge has ordered the seizing of Iverson's bank account, so the relatively little money he has left will be garnished, reports the Philadelphia Inquirer.

This isn't just another formerly famous athlete blowing a ton of cash. Iverson was among the biggest superstars in the NBA, earning more than $154 million during a professional career that began back in 1996. (This doesn't include endorsement money and other business deals.)

How did Iverson lose so much?

Loyal to his friends from a youth spent in Virginia, Iverson traveled with one of the biggest posses in professional sports. Bill Lyon of the Philadelphia Inquirer says the group has as many as 50 people for some Sixers home games. "A.I." took a hair stylist on the road with him and also loved to buy jewelry for himself and his beloved mother, Ann Iverson.

Iverson felt he owed his childhood friends from the old neighborhood because "They made me." The feeling was, without them protecting him from the mean streets, he would have never made it to the NBA.

Apparently they also unmade him.

Despite rumored interest from the Lakers, Iverson is more likely to find playing time and (more importantly) cash outside the U.S. in a place like Puerto Rico.
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I always worry about a guy who has a "posse", they and the hangers on bleed these guys dry, I used to see athletes come to the club I worked the door at in downtown Boston with several dozen "friends" who ordered drink after drink and bottle of champagne after bottle of champagne like it was nothing, 5,000, 10,000 bar tabs were not uncommon, then it was off to some five star hotel to blow more of the guys money.

Also, the parasites who latch onto these kids to "help" them invest their money steal from them left, right and center, they are scumbags too.

Christ, all you'd have to do is put 1 million bucks in the bank and let it sit there and blow the rest and you'd still be ok.

A shame to see a guy like that hit rock bottom...........but it happens all the time.
 
Warrior said:
A shame to see a guy like that hit rock bottom...........but it happens all the time.
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It does happen all the time...and amazes me every time I see it...that is a staggering amount of money to blow...and in such a short time...
 
I can only imagine the egos these guys develop. They are treated like royalty from high school onward. Never learn any kind of responsibility. They believe they are special and the beat will go on indefinitely. But careers are short and when the end comes the bottom drops out real quick.
 
Combat said:
I can only imagine the egos these guys develop. They are treated like royalty from high school onward. Never learn any kind of responsibility. They believe they are special and the beat will go on indefinitely. But careers are short and when the end comes the bottom drops out real quick.
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but still...that's almost 10 million a year pre-tax...it's just hard for me to fathom that it didn't dawn on him somewhere early...or especially close to the end of his career...

"hey...lets save a couple of dollars...this isn't gonna last forever"...

his last paycheck wasn't that long ago...

hope these other "superstars" get a grip on reality and learn something from this...so sad...
 
mikemiller1955 said:
but still...that's almost 10 million a year pre-tax...it's just hard for me to fathom that it didn't dawn on him somewhere early...or especially close to the end of his career...

"hey...lets save a couple of dollars...this isn't gonna last forever"...

his last paycheck wasn't that long ago...

hope these other "superstars" get a grip on reality and learn something from this...so sad...
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The sad thing is they don't learn a thing from something like this; the whole "That's not going to happen to me" attitude, the fact is it happens more times than not, seems like everytime you turn around some guy is hitting rock bottom.

10 million a year pre tax; think of how many limited edition items he could have bought with that dough and then flipped them on Ebay because collecting is a process afterall..................
 
Warrior said:
The sad thing is they don't learn a thing from something like this; the whole "That's not going to happen to me" attitude, the fact is it happens more times than not, seems like everytime you turn around some guy is hitting rock bottom.

10 million a year pre tax; think of how many limited edition items he could have bought with that dough and then flipped them on Ebay because collecting is a process afterall..................
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Worst example ever - Mike Tyson. First career, made an ungodly amount of money but spent it on mansions, cars, tigers and Robin Givens (and her mother). Goes to jail, comes out broke. Second go round, he turns his mgmt of earnings over to Don King. Tyson made 100Million, King took 90 Million ($35 Million in Fees, $45Million to invest for Tyson) and Tyson spent 10 Million. King keeps all his money, Tyson sues him but King lawyered him to death and settled for $5Million. I know Tyson is a tragic superstar (some his own doing), but I do feel some sympathy for him and others like him. Not only do they have to fight their own ignorance when it comes to money, but they are in a pool of sharks who are only to happy to rip them off.

Worst insult to injury - his career he made 300 Million, then the IRS comes after him for taxes!!! Some of which King was responsible to pay and didn't. DUH>:>>>

PS to other bean counters out there, I only did this from memory on actual numbers so some may be off.
TD
 
tdubel said:
Worst example ever - Mike Tyson. First career, made an ungodly amount of money but spent it on mansions, cars, tigers and Robin Givens (and her mother). Goes to jail, comes out broke. Second go round, he turns his mgmt of earnings over to Don King. Tyson made 100Million, King took 90 Million ($35 Million in Fees, $45Million to invest for Tyson) and Tyson spent 10 Million. King keeps all his money, Tyson sues him but King lawyered him to death and settled for $5Million. I know Tyson is a tragic superstar (some his own doing), but I do feel some sympathy for him and others like him. Not only do they have to fight their own ignorance when it comes to money, but they are in a pool of sharks who are only to happy to rip them off.

Worst insult to injury - his career he made 300 Million, then the IRS comes after him for taxes!!! Some of which King was responsible to pay and didn't. DUH>:>>>

PS to other bean counters out there, I only did this from memory on actual numbers so some may be off.
TD
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and you didn't even mention his face tattoo...a constant reminder of bad career decisions :smile2:
 
Amother good game, a blowout of the Kings, where everybody contributed: seven players scored in double figures and Jeremy had a double double. He was doing a lot of dishing and lots of people were doing the swishing.
 
jazzeum said:
Amother good game, a blowout of the Kings, where everybody contributed: seven players scored in double figures and Jeremy had a double double. He was doing a lot of dishing and lots of people were doing the swishing.
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Now a real test would be to play one of the big three: Chicago, Miami or Oklahoma.


Paulo
 
VIRIATO said:
Now a real test would be to play one of the big three: Chicago, Miami or Oklahoma.


Paulo
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How about the Mavs. They took them down today as they incorporated JR Smith into the offense. This followed an off night on Friday.

How quickly things change. Last week at Dicks, a big sports retailer, the Giants were king and all you saw as you walked in the store was gobs of Giants stuff. Yesterday, it was all Lin, all the time. Giants stuff is in the back and at fifty percent off.
 
Just came back from the game at MSG.....The kid is the real deal!!!! Still needs time to mature and build chemistry with Carmello and Amare but he has all the right tools. As Magic Johnson said today it is rare for a point guard to have all three strengths; shooting, assists and leadership. He is smart, poised, and a team player. Sure he has high turn overs but look at the minutes he is playing and his aggressive play in the paint. This may not be their year but if the team stays healthy and together next year could be a NYC championship.
 
I think he's definitely the real deal. In a blowout win against the Bobcats a few weeks ago, D'antoni put him in at the end of the game and he scored 7 points in a couple of minutes. I'm no judge of talent but I turned to my son and said "hmm, not bad. Who is this kid?" I kept saying to myself, particularly, as they struggled and D'antoni started to look grimmer, "play Jeremy!". When I said this to my son, he just snickered.

By coincidence we were at his first game and as the game wore on, his points kept growing. I kept telling my son "Jeremy might get 20." Well, he did better than that and the crowd was roaring his name by the end of the night. It was great to be there at the beginning.
 
Lin-sanity continues. No, I'm not referring to his prowess on the hardwood but the collectibles market. A couple of weeks ago when this madness started to get going, I purchased a Lin jersey for my son at $54. Today, I got an email from the Knicks with their new offering and the jersey is now $89. Glad I bought it when I did. Today his rookie card sold for $21,000 on eBay. The seller must have been extremely happy.
 
jazzeum said:
Lin-sanity continues. No, I'm not referring to his prowess on the hardwood but the collectibles market. A couple of weeks ago when this madness started to get going, I purchased a Lin jersey for my son at $54. Today, I got an email from the Knicks with their new offering and the jersey is now $89. Glad I bought it when I did. Today his rookie card sold for $21,000 on eBay. The seller must have been extremely happy.
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I missed the score from the Knicks/Heat game last night, how did the whole "LINSANITY!!!" thingie work out last night by the way?
 
It was a humbling experience for him but a learning one as (i) he's only been a starter for eleven games, and (ii) the Heat are the best team in the league.

Be that as it may, he's the hottest thing in the league and a lot of people are watching basketball again because of him. One of the reasons is that for him it's all about the team and not him. Here's what he said after last night's game: "Tough game but time to learn from my mistakes. Thankful for awesome vets on our team! On to the next one..."
 
S T E VE N O V A K!!!

Novak torched the Cavs last night for five threes and scored 17. Novak is the Knicks' three point shooter and he did his discount double check move (he's from Wisconsin and a huge Packers fan).

See below for Novak against the Mavs! NOVAK FOR THREE! YEEEEEEEEEEES!

 
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