N.f.l. 2012 (1 Viewer)

Wonder what's going to happen with the Colts. They fired the Polians, both the Chairman and the GM. Can the Coach be far behind. Will this be it for Manning. One era ends and the Andrew Luck era begins.

I was blown away by the announcement of the firing of Bill Polian. The man built the Bills teams that won 4 straight AFC Championships and were a wide right kick away from winning a superbowl, built Coughlin's 1995 Jacksonville Jaguars expansion team from scratch that went to the AFC Championship game in the second year of its existence, and won two AFC Championships and a Superbowl with the Colts, as well as having what, 9 straight 12+ win seasons? Good luck replacing him! As has been suggested, this must have come from a major disagreement between the owner and the Polians about either giving the roster bonus to Peyton Manning, drafting Andrew Luck, or both.

The only personnel decision which surprised me more was San Diego retaining Norv Turner after yet another mediocre 8-8 season, missing the playoffs, despite playing in the weakest division in football and having more overall talent than just about any other team in the AFC.
 
Finally!!! We're back in business after 4 months of B.S. but just glad the season is on schedule!!! and not a moment to soon, my baseball balloon poped about 4-5 weeks ago:( as goes my O's, but alas football is upon us:), and again another year of hoping my Ravens can make it to the play-offs, and get past the evil Steelers for a change, also going to my first Sunday nite game in B-more to watch my Ravens play Brad's evil J-E-T-S!! that's gonna be a good one, opening with the Steelers for the first game is gonna be a toughy, and and all another exciting season I'm sure of, last year we did our own football picks here, some did great, some sucked (me in that bunch:)) picked the Skins in playoffs last year!! so let's do it again.


AFC PLAYOFF TEAMS

RAVENS
STEELERS
PATRIOTS
JETS
COLTS
RAIDERS

NFC PAYOFF TEAMS

EAGLES
PACKERS
49 ERS
BEARS
SAINTS
GIANTS

OK, guys, let's see your pics...Sammy


Wow, I really blew it on the AFC side, 3 out of 6, not much better then NFC, I won't be taken my talents to Vegas:smile2:...Sammy
 
The Steelers safety Ryan Clark will not be playing this weekend. He has a sickle cell trait that makes exertions at high altitudes dangerous to his health. Tomlin told he couldn't play.
 
I was blown away by the announcement of the firing of Bill Polian. The man built the Bills teams that won 4 straight AFC Championships and were a wide right kick away from winning a superbowl, built Coughlin's 1995 Jacksonville Jaguars expansion team from scratch that went to the AFC Championship game in the second year of its existence, and won two AFC Championships and a Superbowl with the Colts, as well as having what, 9 straight 12+ win seasons? Good luck replacing him! As has been suggested, this must have come from a major disagreement between the owner and the Polians about either giving the roster bonus to Peyton Manning, drafting Andrew Luck, or both.

The only personnel decision which surprised me more was San Diego retaining Norv Turner after yet another mediocre 8-8 season, missing the playoffs, despite playing in the weakest division in football and having more overall talent than just about any other team in the AFC.
Norv has more lives as a head coach than should be legal. He must be THE nicest guy in the world or he has more dirt on people than the CIA. The man can't win, but he is an offensive genius.:rolleyes2: -- Al
 
Wow, I really blew it on the AFC side, 3 out of 6, not much better then NFC, I won't be taken my talents to Vegas:smile2:...Sammy

None of us could have forseen the Eagles, Colts, Bears and Jets collapses this season. There is no explanation for the Eagles early season collapse, nobody knew Manning was out until the eve of the season (or that the Colts would go from winning 10 to winning 2 games without him), the Bears were decimated by injuries, and the Jets made some really poor personnel decisions, particularly on the offensive line, and underperformed. At least you saw the 49ers improvement, I thought they needed a new QB before they would make the playoffs.
 
Norv has more lives as a head coach than should be legal. He must be THE nicest guy in the world or he has more dirt on people than the CIA. The man can't win, but he is an offensive genius.:rolleyes2: -- Al

I know what you mean. He won three superbowls as an offensive coordinator in Dallas, but in his entire career as a head coach he has never even won an AFC Championship game. How do you have the number one offense, the number one defense, play in the weakest division and still miss the playoffs (he did that last year!)?
 
Sammy,

You picked four out of six in the NFC. That's pretty good. Picking games is not that easy. After trying it for several weeks, you have to give your respect for those who do it for a living.

Happy Birthday by the way!

Brad
 
The Steelers safety Ryan Clark will not be playing this weekend. He has a sickle cell trait that makes exertions at high altitudes dangerous to his health. Tomlin told he couldn't play.

Tomlin absolutely did the right thing, and I respect him as a coach. Rather than copping out and leaving the decision to the player (who probably would have either decided to play or felt really guilty if he didn't) he made the safe, sensible, correct decision and protected his player's health, something a lot of coaches don't seem willing to do.
 
I became aware of an interesting stat regarding the Patriots that makes for a slight rethinking of their playoff chances. They have not beaten a single team that ended the season with a winning record this season. The two teams they did play that did end with winning records, the Giants and Steelers, both beat the Pats. The Pats beat 6 teams that ended with .500 records, the others all had losing records. Interesting. -- Al
 
Maybe so but 13-3 is hard to sneeze at.

Brad, true statement and for the second time this thread, I get to quote Al Davis, all that matters is "Just Win Baby". 13 and 3 is good doesn't matter how you get 13, you get it.

As for playoff predicts:

NFC will be either Saints or Pack (either QB will put up enough points to win the games) So a Pickem

AFC:
1. Steelers are too injured to go past Round 1 (I am hoping we get past round 1)
2. Ravens - (apologies Sammy), will go to AFC Championship but Flacco will not handle pressure of Foxboro.. in the cold.
3. Pats will do what is needed to "Just Win Baby" no matter how ugly and non perfect.

Superbowl will be Goodshi%$%TS I mean Goodell's dream - Brady vs Brees or Brady Vs Rogers. A no defense encounter with no helmet to helmet hits and a score of 59 -42.

Thats how I see it.

Final superstar tweets of the year will be:
1. James Harrison - **** u Roger. I'm retired.
2. Terrell Suggs - **** u Brady while also giving a shout out to his alma mater Ball So Hard University.
3. Tom Brady - Thanks Roger for keeping me safe this season.......Valentines Card is in the Mail.

Cynical as ever

TD
 
Brad, true statement and for the second time this thread, I get to quote Al Davis, all that matters is "Just Win Baby". 13 and 3 is good doesn't matter how you get 13, you get it.

As for playoff predicts:

NFC will be either Saints or Pack (either QB will put up enough points to win the games) So a Pickem

AFC:
1. Steelers are too injured to go past Round 1 (I am hoping we get past round 1)
2. Ravens - (apologies Sammy), will go to AFC Championship but Flacco will not handle pressure of Foxboro.. in the cold.
3. Pats will do what is needed to "Just Win Baby" no matter how ugly and non perfect.

Superbowl will be Goodshi%$%TS I mean Goodell's dream - Brady vs Brees or Brady Vs Rogers. A no defense encounter with no helmet to helmet hits and a score of 59 -42.

Thats how I see it.

Final superstar tweets of the year will be:
1. James Harrison - **** u Roger. I'm retired.
2. Terrell Suggs - **** u Brady while also giving a shout out to his alma mater Ball So Hard University.
3. Tom Brady - Thanks Roger for keeping me safe this season.......Valentines Card is in the Mail.

Cynical as ever

TD

I'm with you on the cynicism, especially about these commissioners in the various sports (Goodell, Stern, etc.) none of whom have played the game they purport to steward, and all of whom have so altered the rules of their sports that the games no longer resemble the sport I watched less than 20 years ago. I completely stopped watching the NBA (I literally have not watched a minute of NBA play in 10 years and I used to be a Knicks season ticket holder), and if the NFL doesn't go back to the pre-2000 rules I may start watching the CFL and completely give up on watching the NFL (which is starting to call the same ticky tack fouls that drove me away from the NBA). As Brad and George aptly pointed out, its all about money. The only way the game will be resurrected is for fans staying away in droves. I am just wondering, are any NFL fans pleased with this pass happy, high scoring league where the teams with the two best records (Packers and Patriots) have the two worst defenses? I hate it.
 
I'm with you on the cynicism, especially about these commissioners in the various sports (Goodell, Stern, etc.) none of whom have played the game they purport to steward, and all of whom have so altered the rules of their sports that the games no longer resemble the sport I watched less than 20 years ago. I completely stopped watching the NBA (I literally have not watched a minute of NBA play in 10 years and I used to be a Knicks season ticket holder), and if the NFL doesn't go back to the pre-2000 rules I may start watching the CFL and completely give up on watching the NFL (which is starting to call the same ticky tack fouls that drove me away from the NBA). As Brad and George aptly pointed out, its all about money. The only way the game will be resurrected is for fans staying away in droves. I am just wondering, are any NFL fans pleased with this pass happy, high scoring league where the teams with the two best records (Packers and Patriots) have the two worst defenses? I hate it.
Amen to that. -- Al
 
I'm with you on the cynicism, especially about these commissioners in the various sports (Goodell, Stern, etc.) none of whom have played the game they purport to steward, and all of whom have so altered the rules of their sports that the games no longer resemble the sport I watched less than 20 years ago. I completely stopped watching the NBA (I literally have not watched a minute of NBA play in 10 years and I used to be a Knicks season ticket holder), and if the NFL doesn't go back to the pre-2000 rules I may start watching the CFL and completely give up on watching the NFL (which is starting to call the same ticky tack fouls that drove me away from the NBA). As Brad and George aptly pointed out, its all about money. The only way the game will be resurrected is for fans staying away in droves. I am just wondering, are any NFL fans pleased with this pass happy, high scoring league where the teams with the two best records (Packers and Patriots) have the two worst defenses? I hate it.

Double amen to that.

I'm losing interest in pro sports, I really am, the NFL is pathetic, it's all about points, maybe it's an offshoot of society today with video games, Ipads, Ipods, Peapods, Tweeting, Texting, blogging, who knows, the NFL has become a Madden video game.

College football too; sorry, but 56-42 bowl games do not excite me, there is no defense in either game it seems.

Can you imagine ten years ago, heck five years ago if a team like the Patriots or the Saints were in the playoffs, they'd get steamrolled; they were talking about this very thing today on local talk radio, BB is a defensive genius who many here think has given up on defense and is all about offense now, he's adjusted to todays NFL............

What a joke.
 
I think, for better or worse, sports is a reflection of society. That is why, again for better or worse, NFL football has changed. Players are saying they want to do this and that and society wants something flashy. What is flashy? Points! To a certain extent the game has become like Madden 12.

BTW, George, don't knock an iPad. They're great and if you took one to shows, you could do automatic inventory updates, etc.

On another point or maybe it's related but in wild card week, there used to be excitement and I don't feel a buzz this year. Even in NY, on sports radio, they're not really spending much time talking about the Giants but about that other team in town, which has packed its bags and slinked off :wink2:
 
The favorites this weekend are Houston -3, Giants -3, Steelers -8.5 and Saints -10.5.

Steelers game is easy and although Lions are a good team with a very good QB, they screwed themselves losing to GB because they could have beaten NY but they're not beating the Saints.

I guess you have to go with NY but they did beat two 500 teams the last two weeks to get here. Not sold on Falcons either so go with the favorite.

Also go with the Texans. Bengals turn will be next year as they will have some good draft picks this year.
 
The favorites this weekend are Houston -3, Giants -3, Steelers -8.5 and Saints -10.5.

Steelers game is easy and although Lions are a good team with a very good QB, they screwed themselves losing to GB because they could have beaten NY but they're not beating the Saints.

I guess you have to go with NY but they did beat two 500 teams the last two weeks to get here. Not sold on Falcons either so go with the favorite.

Also go with the Texans. Bengals turn will be next year as they will have some good draft picks this year.

I'm scared, because I find myself agreeing with all of Brad's picks!{eek3}

I am 100% certain that short of a legitimate miracle, the Steelers will beat up Denver in what will be Tebow's last ever start. I see it being about 27-3, but with the Steelers' defense it could easily be a shut out, unless the Steelers' offense turns the ball over. I expect the Broncos to fall behind, forcing Tebow to try to throw the ball, with the same kind of 4 interception result he got when he tried to throw on a much weaker Bills defense two weeks ago. Tebow will also get the snot knocked out of him by Harrison and Polumalu when he tries to run the option. It would not surprise me at all to see Tebow on the bench either for injury or ineffectiveness in the 4th quarter.

I am also about 85% confident that the Saints will run away and hide from the Lions. The Lions average 8 penalties per game (2nd most in the NFL behind the Raiders), and can neither run the ball nor stop the run. The Saints beat them 31-17 a few weeks ago, and the keys to that game were 11 stupid penalties committed by the Lions, including 3 personal fouls. Leopards don't change their spots (if you'll pardon the big cat pun), so I expect the Lions to shoot themselves in the foot again, and the Saints offense is just too good to keep up with at home if you don't play perfect football.

I am not nearly as confident about the Giants (maybe 60%), but it is being played outside, the temperature will be between 32 and 45 degrees, and the Meadowlands is always windy. For an Atlanta team that is 8-0 at home in its dome, but 2-6 on the road, and which has not beat a winning team outside all season, I expect the weather conditions to be the trump card which throws a close game in favor of the Giants. However, if the Falcons focused on running the ball, and then throwing play action passes on running downs, which could slow down the only effective part of the Giants' defense, the pass rush, or the Giants receivers go back to dropping or tipping passes, and turning the ball over, the Falcons could easily win.

I am least confident about Houston over Cincinnati (like 51%). Houston has been decimated by injuries, and are down to their third string QB Yates (possibly their fourth string QB the recently signed Jake Delhomme, historically a disaster). However, they have a tremendous defense (one of the 3 good ones in the playoffs), a tremendous running game, and last week they got back their best receiver, who has been out most of the season. Last week, in a game that meant absolutely nothing to the Texans, they took a 9-7 Titans team to the wire in a game the Titans had to have to have a shot at the playoffs, scoring a touchdown that would normally have tied the score, but then decided to go for 2 to avoid overtime, and botched the snap. They also beat Houston earlier in the season in one of Yates' first starts. These factors, plus home field advantage, lead me to pick Houston, but if the Red Rifle has a good game, or DelHomme gets the start, the Bengals could easily win.
 
On my birthday thread, Brad pointed out that I have been advocating the firing of the Giants coaching staff throughout the third quarter of the season (when the Giants went 0-4, losing at the 49ers, home to the Eagles, at the Saints [a blowout], and home to then undefeated Greenbay on a field goal as time expired). I have to admit that, as the Giants won three of their last 4, including quality wins at Dallas, at the Jets, and home to Dallas in a winner takes all game, I was wrong about firing Coughlin and Gilbride, and might be wrong about firing Fewell as well.

I'm not a big fan of Gilbride, but he deserves to return (although the offensive line and/or running backs coaches need to go - there is no excuse for being last in the league in rushing).

I would still replace Fewell with Spagnuolo if possible. However, if the Giants find a way to win the Wildcard Game against the Falcons Sunday, the Giants would be hard pressed to replace Fewell.

In all fairness, the Giants were so knocked around by injuries this year, and had such a tough schedule, it is hard to really argue that any of the coaches did a bad job in going 9-7 (two games better than I thought they would do), and winning the division (I had them picked to finish third). Even if they lose this week, unless the defense totally collapses, I suspect Fewell will be back. If they win this week, and manage to keep it close in the Divisional round against Greenbay or (in the unlikely event that the Lions win) the 49ers, then the Head Coach and Offensive and Defensive coordinators all deserve to be back.

I will say, however, that the Special Teams coordinator needs to go, as does whichever of the offensive line and/or running back coaches is responsible for the Giants inability to run the ball for much of this season.
 
Wekkends playoff pick time guys.


Steelers over Broncos...20-10

Houston over Cincinnati...17-13


New Orleans over Lions...38-24

Giants over Atlanta 24-20
 

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