N.F.L. 24-25 Season (4 Viewers)

I'll defer to you on Lamar and his personality; all I know is the Patriots could have drafted him but did not, he's an MVP caliber player, he was a free agent and anyone could have had him, he's a top 5 NFL QB in my eyes.

That's what fans do; they look for a goat and lay all the blame on him; yes, he fumbled, but as you said, so did Lamar and Lamar also threw a bad INT, too bad the guy dropped that two point conversion, he went from hero to goat in the blink of an eye.

I can't see anyone beating Mahomes and the Chiefs, they are stacked and have a great DC as well.
Just found this online from a number of years ago on Jackson, pay attention to the CONS as well as VERDICT. Some of it is prophetic in nature, no? Interesting to say the least.
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Just found this online from a number of years ago on Jackson, pay attention to the CONS as well as VERDICT. Some of it is prophetic in nature, no? Interesting to say the least.
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The draft for all intents and purposes is a total crap shoot, the Ravens got lucky and grabbed him where he was projected to go, late first.
 
The draft for all intents and purposes is a total crap shoot, the Ravens got lucky and grabbed him where he was projected to go, late first.
I agree where they got him was good, but I find it ironic the notes and how they proved true and I think Doug has hit the proverbial nail on the head, until proven otherwise, he should be nicknamed Small Game.

From a Steelers fan perspective, we have been literally screwed since Big Ben. I don't think other than the obvious current QBs of Mahomes, Allen,Stafford, Brady (retired), probably forgetting one where we would have gone any further than we have. It just seems the elite ones are the winners. SuperBowl winners since Ben's retirement year - Brady, Mahomes, Stafford and prior 2 years to that - Brady, Mahomes.........................see what I mean. IF Pittsburgh would have gotten Lamar Jackson, I just don't think we would be any further than we are. Need to find a true elite QB. They are the difference between winning and losing. Going to the playoffs is great, but if everyone is honest, not making the SB sucks. And that is not being a fair weathered fan, I watch it for 2 purposes, competition and entertainment. The Steelers IMO have not been entertaining since Ben. Yes we made the playoffs, but it always felt like we were limping in and losing immediately. (When we had Ben, we always had a chance and there were only a couple of those limp ins where losing the next one was a foregone conclusion with him). To be fair, our offensive coordinators have stunk since Bruce Arians.

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I agree where they got him was good, but I find it ironic the notes and how they proved true and I think Doug has hit the proverbial nail on the head, until proven otherwise, he should be nicknamed Small Game.

From a Steelers fan perspective, we have been literally screwed since Big Ben. I don't think other than the obvious current QBs of Mahomes, Allen,Stafford, Brady (retired), probably forgetting one where we would have gone any further than we have. It just seems the elite ones are the winners. SuperBowl winners since Ben's retirement year - Brady, Mahomes, Stafford and prior 2 years to that - Brady, Mahomes.........................see what I mean. IF Pittsburgh would have gotten Lamar Jackson, I just don't think we would be any further than we are. Need to find a true elite QB. They are the difference between winning and losing. Going to the playoffs is great, but if everyone is honest, not making the SB sucks. And that is not being a fair weathered fan, I watch it for 2 purposes, competition and entertainment. The Steelers IMO have not been entertaining since Ben. Yes we made the playoffs, but it always felt like we were limping in and losing immediately. (When we had Ben, we always had a chance and there were only a couple of those limp ins where losing the next one was a foregone conclusion with him). To be fair, our offensive coordinators have stunk since Bruce Arians.

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Being a life long Patriots fan, I sat through some miserable seasons and horrible teams, two SB appearances in 40 years up to 2000 and they lost both...........then it all changed, they won the division 17 times in 19 years, made 13 trips to the AFCCG, including 8 in a row, 9 Superbowls, winning 6.

As a result, I became spoiled and entitled, so yes, I agree it's not enough to make the playoffs, winning the SB is all that matters. The Ravens are stuck in purgatory, very good regular season, one or two playoff wins and then out, they've gotten to 1 Super Bowl under Harbaugh.

As long as Allen and Mahomes stay healthy, really no one else in the AFC has a shot to get to the Super Bowl.
 
Harbaugh is to blame for that loss, not Lamar and not Andrews.

No idea what he was doing on those 2 point conversions.

They should have tried Henry on both of those, one of those 2 attempts would have succeeded with him.
 
Harbaugh is to blame for that loss, not Lamar and not Andrews.

No idea what he was doing on those 2 point conversions.

They should have tried Henry on both of those, one of those 2 attempts would have succeeded with him.
you may well have a good point. All I know is if Henry was on my team, he would be on the field in every situation where you have must need yards. Until they fully stop him, why not put it in his hands. Oftentimes, I think coaches outcoach themselves. End of day though, 2 turnovers in the first half put them in the position they were in. You can probably sort blame to multiple personnel depending on what point you declare the game lost.
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