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I don't think the league is rigged but they do have a lot of poor referees and officiating, more it seems than any of the other sports. It's a star centered league, which is why you don't see no name teams coming to the fore.

This probably speaks more to the issue; they have a number of poor referees who'd be better off using seeing eye dogs, they call some horrifically bad fouls on players and when you only get 6 fouls per game, that can cause huge momentum swings when a star player either has to sit with 4 or 5 fouls or worse yet, foul out of a game.

Curry all year long hasn't had more than FOUR fouls in a game; last night in an elimination game, he fouls out and gee, sorry, THREE of those fouls were as ticky tack as you can get....................just pathetic.
 
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Let's go Warriors!!!! ^&grin not the biggest NBA fan but Mckenna (keep it silly) and I have a small soldier wager on the outcome, needless to say I hope Curry is raining 3 pointers down on Cleveland like a Arizona monsoon!!!!:)...Sammy
 
This probably speaks more to the issue; they have a number of poor referees who'd be better off using seeing eye dogs, they call some horrifically bad fouls on players and when you only get 6 fouls per game, that can cause huge momentum swings when a star player either has to sit with 4 or 5 fouls or worse yet, foul out of a game.

Curry all year long hasn't had more than FOUR fouls in a game; last night in an elimination game, he fouls out and gee, sorry, THREE of those fouls were as ticky tack as you can get....................just pathetic.

They obviously know refereeing has been a problem and are very sensitive about it because you get fined for criticizing the referees.
 
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Yes Mike, as usual, you are confused.

What I said was you don't see teams with no stars come out of nowhere as a cinderella story and win it all in the NBA, the finals are always two teams with superstars matching up; ie, you never see some fringe team that barely makes the playoffs with a bunch of lunch pale guys suddenly catch fire, go on a run and win a title.

You see it in football, baseball and hockey, but not in basketball.

Because it's scripted, ie, rigged.

George…

I’m confused?

really…and not only am I confused…

but I’m confused “as usual”?

I’m too much of a simpleton to grasp your analysis of last nights game after you gave it a 12 second viewing before turning the game off…

I find reading your posts and talking to you on the phone over the last couple of years confusing…I don’t subscribe to your conspiracies…your rigged games theories at all…

how you justify the teams you think should of won…but actually lost…always blaming it on something other than inferior coaching and playing is confusing…it’s always…if your team didn’t win…it was rigged or they got cheated…

It’s always the same rhetoric with you…the team you wanted to win was cheated…and that’s why they lost…the only reason they lost…another conspiracy…you don’t grasp the idea that a team you thought should of won…actually ever got outplayed and lost that game fairly…it’s always some foul play theory that caused them to lose….

Whether it’s the ref‘s bad calls…a league rigging the game…the other team owners needing to be appeased…the Commissioner…everybody is jealous and out to get me…a bad call…some payback theory…or in this case…you’re the “it looks like the league wants Lebron to get Cleveland that championship” conspiracy…it doesn’t matter…whenever your team loses…they weren’t beat…they got cheated…

your Manning golden boy retirement win conspiracy was the most confusing of all…Denver won cause they were the better team that day…

So yea…I’m confused with your post…as usual…

and I think you are a little misguided by too many poor sport conspiracy theorists on talk radio…I find your collusion and rigged theories hard to swallow…
 
Golden State is a 5 1/2 point favorite...

I would like to see Cleveland win...

but I doubt they will even cover...

GS needs a wake up call pronto...
 
NBA basketball is not rigged. If it were Nevada (the only state that allows this activity) sports books would see irregular betting patterns on select NBA games. This was exemplified when a criminal scandal broke in NCAA basketball years ago (1995) when two Arizona State basketball players colluded with a group of gamblers to throw a game by shaving points. Nevada sports books experienced an unusual high level of betting activity on a game that usually had low five figure action and that game experienced a plus $1 million figure betting action. Regulators were able to identify some of the perpetrators when they showed up at the legal sports book to collect their winnings. The sports books and their regulators literally exposed the malfeasance. Most involved were eventually prosecuted. I have not heard about this type activity being an issue with NBA basketball. So if Game six of this years Finals were rigged it would be for monetary benefit. If someone can tell me besides Tim Donaghy that referees are instructed verbally or in writing to get Curry into foul trouble I am all ears. By the way Nevada sports books did not receive an abnormal amount of wagering on Game 6. You can't assert that the games are rigged without any proof, evidence or data points. The NBA is a billion dollar sport. To collude or rig the results with league involvement would result in massive oversight and criminal investigation besides eroding the rapidly increasing value of the franchises. Referees are in a tough spot. When you have forty + TV cameras on the action combined with the incredible speed of the game at live eye level it is impossible to interpret every call correctly. High optic television exposes human judgment and makes it look incredibly inadequate and antiquated. However Ayesha Curry and others asserting that the sport her husband plays is rigged or corrupt completely denigrates the incredible exploits and achievements her husband attains by unsupported emotional comments. Watch the game tonight and enjoy. The game is not perfect but it is real and it is not rigged.
 
An incredible feat! Historic in many ways. No doubt Lebron is one of the all time greats and like I said before, he will never have to pay for a meal again in Cleveland.
 
Let's go Warriors!!!! ^&grin not the biggest NBA fan but Mckenna (keep it silly) and I have a small soldier wager on the outcome, needless to say I hope Curry is raining 3 pointers down on Cleveland like a Arizona monsoon!!!!:)...Sammy

Well it's the best bet I lost :)..believeland finally has some hardware for the trophy case, great job Cavs!!!
 
Congratulations to the Cavs and Cleveland. No excuses, the better team won and that is all there it is to it.

Tough sports week for me. In the past seven days the Sharks lost in the Stanley Cup Finals and today the Warriors lose in the NBA Finals.
 
great game...

like the last 3...
Cleveland shut down GS in the 4th quarter...

Curry was a disappointment...6-19 for 17 points...
Green looks like the best player on their team...

Lebron is inspirational...
he motivates that team...
47 minutes...he laid it all out...
3 blocked shots in the paint...
he contests anything he can get near...

amazing game to end the season...
history made...
records broken...
glad for the city of Cleveland...
 
Good game. The first NBA game I've watched this entire year. Curry looked awful with his behind the back passes into the stands and 40 foot air balls. He must have thought it was a pickup game in his backyard instead of the final minutes of a game seven. I find it hard to like LeBron with his cult of celebrity, but there is no doubting he is a great player. The Cavs unis are among the ugliest I have ever seen though. Like they got a deal on left over soccer jerseys from the World Cup discount store. I didn't know a single player on the Cavs except for LeBron. The other players are like the guys in red shirts on Star Trek.
 
Have to admit that I watched the last quarter of the game, the first NBA action I've seen in years. I watched it just so I could answer my son in the affirmative when he asks me if I had seen Cleveland win. He lives in Cleveland and the city apparently saw this final as important.:wink2: At any rate, I'm afraid I was unimpressed by everything except Lebron. He was everywhere, doing everything. I think the game turned when he blocked that layup. Curry looked lost. Congratulations to the Cavaliers and especially the city of Cleveland. The 'mistake by the lake' deserved this one. -- Al
 
Good game. The first NBA game I've watched this entire year. Curry looked awful with his behind the back passes into the stands and 40 foot air balls. He must have thought it was a pickup game in his backyard instead of the final minutes of a game seven. I find it hard to like LeBron with his cult of celebrity, but there is no doubting he is a great player. The Cavs unis are among the ugliest I have ever seen though. Like they got a deal on left over soccer jerseys from the World Cup discount store. I didn't know a single player on the Cavs except for LeBron. The other players are like the guys in red shirts on Star Trek.


Right there with you, basically the first game I've watched all year long from start to finish.

I had a feeling all the way through Cleveland was going to pull this one out. LeBron is something else, nobody can say a word about him from now on, he pulled off a miracle comeback, he returned home and won a title for his home town, it's a great sports story, that is for sure.

I'm pretty much out of touch with today's NBA, I thought that spectacular blocked shot of his towards the end was goaltending as it looked to me like he held the ball against the backboard, which I thought was goaltending, I guess not. It was an incredible play regardless, quite an effort as he was gassed at that point.

Guess we'll have another chapter to the "Believeland" ESPN 30 for 30 now.

Golden State now joins the Mariners, Red Wings and Patriots as the team with the best record all time in their sport who failed to win a championship.

The 52 year drought is now over.

Chicago Cubs; you're on deck.
 
Right there with you, basically the first game I've watched all year long from start to finish.

I had a feeling all the way through Cleveland was going to pull this one out. LeBron is something else, nobody can say a word about him from now on, he pulled off a miracle comeback, he returned home and won a title for his home town, it's a great sports story, that is for sure.

I'm pretty much out of touch with today's NBA, I thought that spectacular blocked shot of his towards the end was goaltending as it looked to me like he held the ball against the backboard, which I thought was goaltending, I guess not. It was an incredible play regardless, quite an effort as he was gassed at that point.

Guess we'll have another chapter to the "Believeland" ESPN 30 for 30 now.

Golden State now joins the Mariners, Red Wings and Patriots as the team with the best record all time in their sport who failed to win a championship.

The 52 year drought is now over.

Chicago Cubs; you're on deck.

Yes, I thought that was goaltending unless they changed the rules since the last time I watched an NBA game. LeBron clearly pinned the ball to the backboard. That would have been a huge two points at that stage. But if you are the best team in NBA history and can't finish up 3-1 with two home games, then it shouldn't come down to the refs making that call. Curry was beyond awful.
 
Right there with you, basically the first game I've watched all year long from start to finish.

I had a feeling all the way through Cleveland was going to pull this one out. LeBron is something else, nobody can say a word about him from now on, he pulled off a miracle comeback, he returned home and won a title for his home town, it's a great sports story, that is for sure.

I'm pretty much out of touch with today's NBA, I thought that spectacular blocked shot of his towards the end was goaltending as it looked to me like he held the ball against the backboard, which I thought was goaltending, I guess not. It was an incredible play regardless, quite an effort as he was gassed at that point.

Guess we'll have another chapter to the "Believeland" ESPN 30 for 30 now.

Golden State now joins the Mariners, Red Wings and Patriots as the team with the best record all time in their sport who failed to win a championship.

The 52 year drought is now over.

Chicago Cubs; you're on deck.

Before your time and almost mine (I was only 4 at the time) but the 54 Indians belong in that group.
 
I grew up in Cleveland with my brother and even thought the 54 Indians was a year before I was born, it was still talked about like it happened yesterday, the famous over the shoulder catch that broke their backs in the 54 World Series. I saw the 64 Browns win and then had to watch the Cavaliers, Barons, Indians and my beloved Browns go for next 52 years without winning. I also saw in person the shot by Jordan (which seems to get played a million times), the Drive by Elway, the Fumble by Byner, 2 World Series tries, the closet was against the Mariners and so on. You had to be tough to be a Cleveland sports fan. It was always the Catch, The Shot, The Drive and The Fumble that summed up Cleveland sports. Now there is this championship, long time coming. The puzzle story is the best, right out of the movie Major League, loved it. Chris
 
I grew up in Cleveland with my brother and even thought the 54 Indians was a year before I was born, it was still talked about like it happened yesterday, the famous over the shoulder catch that broke their backs in the 54 World Series. I saw the 64 Browns win and then had to watch the Cavaliers, Barons, Indians and my beloved Browns go for next 52 years without winning. I also saw in person the shot by Jordan (which seems to get played a million times), the Drive by Elway, the Fumble by Byner, 2 World Series tries, the closet was against the Mariners and so on. You had to be tough to be a Cleveland sports fan. It was always the Catch, The Shot, The Drive and The Fumble that summed up Cleveland sports. Now there is this championship, long time coming. The puzzle story is the best, right out of the movie Major League, loved it. Chris

Chris,
Congrats on the championship, that's a lot of heartache to go through, but it's all in the past now.

When LeBron got whacked on that hard foul and was rolling around on the court like someone shot him, I thought he broke his wrist and I couldn't help but think if Golden State somehow tied it and it went to OT and LeBron was out and Cleveland lost, you'd have to add "the wrist" to the long list of Cleveland sports disasters.

Glad it wasn't true..........
 
Thanks, my brother is still the biggest Cleveland sports fan I know, has memorabilia going back to League Park where Cy Young pitched. Watched him get his hope up every year and then something happens. He always stuck with Cleveland teams and was a die hard fan. He could not even talk last night when this happened, he was so choked up. He and I are still in shock. Waiting for something to happen to make them replay the game over and then the Cavs lose. I know it is impossible but it has been 52 years, most of my life and something always happened. I also thought LeBron was done with that wrist and thought here we go again. But so far so good. Chris
 

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