New figarti from chicago. (3 Viewers)

[katana]

Trumpeter models makes a number of excellent armored railcar models in 1/35; identical to the ones Figarti displayed as prototypes. Trumpeter also makes a Leopold rail gun in 1/35.

 

[Vezzolf]

I would consider Figarti a Zombie company; not quite dead and not quite alive. Lots of money would revive them. A contract from a large distributor for 500 pieces of a Figarti Kingtiger with a 50% prepayment might just get things moving. Another way to proceed would be for Figarti to produce a prototype and take orders for it from interested collectors with a 50% prepayment to fund the molds, materials and labor. Risky for the collectors though!

Sign me up:salute::....and many others:salute::

 

[PanzerAce1944]

I would consider Figarti a Zombie company; not quite dead and not quite alive. Lots of money would revive them. A contract from a large distributor for 500 pieces of a Figarti Kingtiger with a 50% prepayment might just get things moving. Another way to proceed would be for Figarti to produce a prototype and take orders for it from interested collectors with a 50% prepayment to fund the molds, materials and labor. Risky for the collectors though!

Katana,

500 King Tiger's would be the magic formula here. No one has been doing KT's for a while now. Just keep the paint scheme appealing.

Wayne

 

[katana]

Basic requirements for Figarti Kingtiger should be:

1 Accurate 1/30 scale.
2 All hatches open & close.
3 Ambush pattern camouflage.
4 50% of production run with Zimmerit.
5 25% of production run with Porsche Turret, all with Zimmerit.
6 25% of production run with Winter camouflage.
7 4 different turret numbers
8 Put on /take off tracks on turret at 4 locations.
9 Metal tracks.
10 Price target $300.00
11 Production run 500 pieces minimum.

Please make your own list of features or add to this list.

Matt at Hobby bunker can critique the features versus cost versus production volume trade offs. A new Kingtiger model needs to have unique features and set a new standard for realism IMO.

 

[OzDigger]

No Zimm for me ^&cool

 

[katana]

No Zimm for me ^&cool

That would eleminate a Normandy and Arnhem KTs; as most were Porsche Turret with Zimmerit!

 

[OzDigger]

That would eleminate a Normandy and Arnhem KTs; as most were Porsche Turret with Zimmerit!

Who cares I'm not going to pay $300 anyway. And I already have the non Zimm version from Collectors Showcase.

 

[katana]

Who cares I'm not going to pay $300 anyway. And I already have the non Zimm version from Collectors Showcase.

What would you consider a fair price for a KT with the features delineated?

 

[OzDigger]

What would you consider a fair price for a KT with the features delineated?

I might pay $300 if the production run was their usual 100 as it would be more limited. I can understand why you suggested they produce 500 but a lot of collectors do have past issues with Figarti and I can't see them selling that many, no matter how good the model is.

 

[jazzeum]

Figarti only did runs of 100. Nowadays, they can't even do that much.

 

[katana]

Figarti only did runs of 100. Nowadays, they can't even do that much.

The Figarti late production Tiger I #007 & 200 was a 500 piece production run divided between a Normandy and Winter version. The larger run dropped the price to $169 retail. The later Tiger I #222 was a 100 piece production run and the retail price increased to $189.

 

[jazzeum]

I'm not sure that is correct (I don't have the box in front of me) but even assuming you're correct, they are not in a position to make even 100.

 

[katana]

If Figarti is not interested or incapable of producing a Kingtiger perhaps Richard Walker could interest Eagle Design in producing one. I think there is sufficient interest among collectors to justify production of a prototype for review.

 

[OzDigger]

If Figarti is not interested or incapable of producing a Kingtiger perhaps Richard Walker could interest Eagle Design in producing one. I think there is sufficient interest among collectors to justify production of a prototype for review.

I think that would be more likely than from Figarti.

 

[HobbyBunker]

King Tigers will be made this year. Prototypes are done as far as I know.

The wait is really based on working capital or lack there of. It will take time to build up funds for production. I have sent the upfront funds this month to help out.
So I will keep you posted when more news comes my way.

 

[katana]

Matt; show photos and dimensions of the prototype and take pre-orders to fund the project. The only Kingtigers in polystone are either oversize or innaccurate i.e. the K&C Porsche Turret KT without Zimmerit. My current display Kingtiger for 60mm WB figures is the excellent 1/30 21st Century Cold Steel model. The best tracks and running gear on any 1/30 KT IMO. The Ambush pattern camouflage is superb and Figarti should copy it. I have posted photos of it with the WB figures.

The size is hull length 9.1", width 4.7" and height 3.9" Figart should do as well!

King Tigers will be made this year. Prototypes are done as far as I know.

The wait is really based on working capital or lack there of. It will take time to build up funds for production. I have sent the upfront funds this month to help out.
So I will keep you posted when more news comes my way.

 

[uksubs]

1/30 21st Century Cold Steel model. The best tracks and running gear on any 1/30 KT IMO. The Ambush pattern camouflage is superb and Figarti should copy it. I have posted photos of it with the WB figures.

I collected 21st Century armour and it 1/32 scale even the cold steel tanks ,first I've heard it being called 1/30 scale^&confuse

 

[katana]

The Cold Steel 21st Century Kingtiger measures; Hull Length 9.1", Width 4.7" Height 3.9. The actual Kingtiger measured; Hull length 252", Width 147" Height 121". I divide the actual measurements by 30 to determine the size of a true 1/30 scale model for reference and the result is; Hull Length 8.4, Width 4.9", Height 4.0"

The 21st Century Cold Steel KT is within .1" in Width and Height and the hull is longer by .7"; so overall the 21st Century KT is larger than 1/30 scale. I have posted photos of the 21st Century KT with 60 mm figures for reference and the deck exceeds the figures 60mm measured height.
The advantages of the 21st Century KT is the tracks and running gear is far more accurate than polystone models, the size is a correct 1/30 scale, all the hatches open; including the rear turret hatch and the engine hatch and the paint is the best I have seen to date on a model KT including the superb Minichamps Ist KT. The price is very nice too; $60.00 including shipping on Ebay. Figarti would do very well to exceed the details of the 21st Century KT at less than $300.00 IMO.

An interesting comparison is the K&C Kingtigers. The Porsche KT is: Hull Length 9.0", Width 4.7", Height 4.0". The calculated scale is 1/29.6. The K&C Henschel KT is: Hull Length 10.5", Width 5.5"
Height 4.0" The calculated average scale is 1/26.7 the same size as the 1/27 TCS Kingtigers interestingly enough!

I hope this data clarifies the Kingtigers dimensions, both actual and scale.

The actual Kingtiger dimensions cited are from Osprey New Vanguard #1 by Tom Jentz & Hilary Doyle. The dimensions in meters are: Overall Length Gun Forward 10.286 m, Hull Length 6.400 m
Width 3.750m, Height 3.09m

 

[OzDigger]

Maybe the 21st Century King Tiger just looks 1/30 scale because.......it's big ^&grin

 

[katana]

I have the 21st Century Kingtiger setting next to the Figarti Tiger I ETG-096 #222 and the size comparison is interesting. The Tiger I is shorter, wider and lower than the Kingtiger, just as you would expect from comparing the actual dimensions of the two Tigers. Both Tigers have TCS Panzer Kommander figures in the cupolas, which fit and look size compatable, these are the smaller figures from the 1/29 scale TCS Tiger I and the TCS Hetzer.

I measured the Figarti Tiger at 1/29.8 about as accurate a 1/30 scale as you can get with polystone IMO. I think anyone comparing the two side by side would agree that they are the same scale.