Next Release - Tiger and SU-100 (2 Viewers)

[jazzeum]

Alex,

Yes, I do and, of course, like it and I count Rick as a good friend.

It probably is a question of style and I'm sure as a Battalion Commander you had to be straight forward as you are in what I can only imagine was a very, very difficult job.

Regards,

Brad

 

[Vezzolf]

That is incorrect, some collectors modelers are on the fence because this is an internet hobby, and they don't have the product in their hands. This type of stuff is very helpful as is proven by the amount of e-mails I get thanking me for the way I present things.

Soap box.......Forums are a gigantic soap box.

Please read my statements in their entirety and not select sections

I said time and time again

BUY WHAT YOU WANT.....I am not telling you what to buy...I am just telling you FACTS about a particular product which has distinct features that are very favorable at this time.

I know you cant and shouldn't tell people what to do. I just present the FACTS and you take it from there.



I don't think there is any interest in taking this any further...It has been digested and everyone is doing what I stated...read it......... take it or leave it.......... and move on.

Go with the STYLE that suits you.

EXCELLENT POST:salute:::salute::.....Alex..... Many of us have found your assessments to be HONEST and HELPFUL in making informed purchasing decisions......THE FACTS....THE TRUTH....but not everyone can handle the truth and a straight forward "STYLE"....RELATIVISM:wink2:.....POLITICALLY CORRECT:wink2:...That's all that matters.{eek3}....TO EACH THEIR OWN.:rolleyes2:

 

[Desertkiwi]

I agree, Alex, that there is no point in taking this any further as I believe you've stated what you believe and I've stated what I believe and we'll leave it at that. Fundamentally, I don't think we disagree. Perhaps, it's the style in which things you present things. However, we all have our own sytles.

Brad

I think Brad, its not so much what Alex is saying it's the way he's saying it. I think this is a real shame because he has much to offer the forum.

All I'd ask Alex is you step back a bit, have a think and take into account that not everyone has your expertise nor do they necessarily want what you look for in a model........different strokes for different folks.

Toddy

 

[uksubs]

well who getting one ? I'm for a start^&grin

 

[Andanna]

Nope. I will pass on the "222". I will wait until another historically correct version, like the previous version, Tiger "007", is being produced by Figarti. I will not buy a "200" for the same reason.

In the past, I was able to assume that Figarti would bring a historically correct vehicle on the market. That assumption is no longer. And that is the only "step changer" I see. At a minimum, JJD and FL have produced detailed vehicles before. And being able to offer a lower price because you crank up production numbers is not a "step changer", but a business decision. We will have to see whether the market is able to absorb this many TS Tigers.

I admit I am disappointed because I really would. like this model. For those who do not mind historical inaccuracies, I think this is a great model and please enjoy it.

 

[The Military Workshop]

With all due respect you are a Dealer I wouldn't listen to you, it is your livelihood and your concerned with sales

Yes come back at me with FACTS if you have them not SPIN and STYLE. And if you have your ducks in order I will listen and you may change my mind.

Alex,
A few points.

Whether or not this particular Tiger is the best vehicle ever made is of no concern to me as a dealer. Your comments supporting that view have zero impact on my business down here in Australia. No problem if you think I may be biased simply because I do not sell Figarti.

It seems that you regard yourself as some sort of spokesman for collectors when in fact the simple reality is that forum members are adults and can make up their own mind how to spend their own money. You mention that you do not work for any brand and that may currently be true. However you conveniently forget to mention that the other forum you so frequently mention here is sponsored by a dealer who just happens to be the USA distributor of Figarti.

There are a number of collectors on this forum who collect vehicles from multiple brands. If they are paying normal prices then their opinions on vehicles are just as worthy as somebody who might be receiving some sort of sponsorship even if it is just to pay for running a web page/forum. Even amongst those collectors there will be differences of opinion over different aspects. For example I note Andanna mentioned he will not buy this Tiger because of some historical aspect that he thinks is not right. Since it is his money he is entitled to his opinion. Others may agree with you that it is the best Tiger/vehicle ever made. So when you say something is a fact or a reality you may wish consider that others may have a different view which should also be respected.

As a few others have tried to point out it is the manner in which you make your comments. You have a tendency to throw in provocative comments which then become the subject of discussion rather than the actual item you are praising. If you want your images and reviews to have more impact you might find it helps not to put down others while doing it.

Brett

 

[uksubs]

Nope. I will pass on the "222". I will wait until another historically correct version, like the previous version, Tiger "007", is being produced by Figarti. I will not buy a "200" for the same reason.

In the past, I was able to assume that Figarti would bring a historically correct vehicle on the market. That assumption is no longer. And that is the only "step changer" I see. At a minimum, JJD and FL have produced detailed vehicles before. And being able to offer a lower price because you crank up production numbers is not a "step changer", but a business decision. We will have to see whether the market is able to absorb this many TS Tigers.

I admit I am disappointed because I really would. like this model. For those who do not mind historical inaccuracies, I think this is a great model and please enjoy it.

Would be interested in what wrong with the tank to be honest ? To me this version has a better paint job than 007 version I have and that why I will move 007 on and get 200 instead

 

[Hunter Rose]

Would be interested in what wrong with the tank to be honest ?

Only historical inaccuracy is in the turret number.

As has been covered earlie, the Figarti Models are of Command Tigers/Befehlstigers. There were not a whole lot of them and generally only the regiment HQ Company would have had them. The turret # 222 denotes the 2nd Kompanie, 2nd Platoon/Zug, 2nd Tiger. A vehicle here would have been a regular version Tiger, not a command Tiger with the extra radio equipment.

 

[Andanna]

Or you turn it around and say that this is the regular Tiger with tactical number "222" and then, as listed above, there is a large number if items incorrect, commencing with the lack of an MG in the gun mantle which, even without reading glasses, you cannot ignore.

 

[uksubs]

Only historical inaccuracy is in the turret number.

As has been covered earlie, the Figarti Models are of Command Tigers/Befehlstigers. There were not a whole lot of them and generally only the regiment HQ Company would have had them. The turret # 222 denotes the 2nd Kompanie, 2nd Platoon/Zug, 2nd Tiger. A vehicle here would have been a regular version Tiger, not a command Tiger with the extra radio equipment.

Cheer for that :salute::

 

[uksubs]

Or you turn it around and say that this is the regular Tiger with tactical number "222" and then, as listed above, there is a large number if items incorrect, commencing with the lack of an MG in the gun mantle which, even without reading glasses, you cannot ignore.

Well that down to you but are be still getting one and don't think Figarti will have problem selling them to be honest

 

[Andanna]

I very much hope they do - and then reinvest in making a regular steel-wheeled Tiger. With many different tactical numbers which would allow Alex and others to create a platoon. ^&grin

 

[Firebat]

I think Brad, its not so much what Alex is saying it's the way he's saying it. I think this is a real shame because he has much to offer the forum.

All I'd ask Alex is you step back a bit, have a think and take into account that not everyone has your expertise nor do they necessarily want what you look for in a model........different strokes for different folks.

Toddy

This is where you loose me, why would you not want a well executed nearly perfectly represented model of the real tank.


Please explain.


Even if I didn't build dioramas and was just a collector I would want that. This thing is a groundbreaker nearly perfect.

 

[Firebat]

I very much hope they do - and then reinvest in making a regular steel-wheeled Tiger. With many different tactical numbers which would allow Alex and others to create a platoon. ^&grin

I am in contact with Peter regarding that. I don't think I have any weight, but asking is better than nothing. Alex

 

[lancer]

It has always puzzled me as to why manufacturers don't just leave turrets blank and supply a decal sheet to allow customization. This little bit of extra effort would certainly result in additional multiple sales for those who wish to build platoons/units. Seems simple enough. -- Al

 

[uksubs]

It has always puzzled me as to why manufacturers don't just leave turrets blank and supply a decal sheet to allow customization. This little bit of extra effort would certainly result in additional multiple sales for those who wish to build platoons/units. Seems simple enough. -- Al

To be fair Al if you got the money to buy four Figarti tanks I'm sure they got the money to buy a $10.00 decal sheet don't you ^&confuse I'm more interested in this tank great detail and paint job than if it come with a decal sheet to be honest but that just me ^&grin

 

[Vezzolf]

It has always puzzled me as to why manufacturers don't just leave turrets blank and supply a decal sheet to allow customization. This little bit of extra effort would certainly result in additional multiple sales for those who wish to build platoons/units. Seems simple enough. -- Al

Absolutely Agree...I have also suggested this as well....It would not be difficult to add a few decals and turret numbers if they were supplied in the correct scale and color....I have just weathered the 007 Tiger and it looks great.:salute::

 

[bradleyl30]

It has always puzzled me as to why manufacturers don't just leave turrets blank and supply a decal sheet to allow customization. This little bit of extra effort would certainly result in additional multiple sales for those who wish to build platoons/units. Seems simple enough. -- Al

Great idea! I wish they would do this and sell extra baggage.

 

[Andanna]

Absolutely Agree...I have also suggested this as well....It would not be difficult to add a few decals and turret numbers if they were supplied in the correct scale and color....I have just weathered the 007 Tiger and it looks great.:salute::

Can we have some photos, please? I would love to see it.

I am not used to have to customize my tanks by exchanging the decals. Zimmerit and the weathering discourage me from doing it myself. But the idea of adding the tactical number yourself is a good one.

Baggage is available separately, just not from Figarti.

 

[lancer]

To be fair Al if you got the money to buy four Figarti tanks I'm sure they got the money to buy a $10.00 decal sheet don't you ^&confuse I'm more interested in this tank great detail and paint job than if it come with a decal sheet to be honest but that just me ^&grin

I agree, a $10 decal sheet is an easy buy. I was just referring to manufacturers in general, allowing the customer to number his own vehicle(s), without having to remove numbers and possibly altering a paint job, etc. But I do agree that the buyer who can afford 4 Figarti Tigers is unlikely to be worried about the effort to alter existing decals.:wink2: -- Al